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post Jul 23 2018, 09:35 AM, updated 2y ago

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Upcoming Proton SUV Pricing Prediction



The upcoming Proton SUV is due latter in 2018 and is highly anticipated. However, pricing will play a big role into the success of the SUV.

In China, the Geely Boyue sells for around 99,000 yuan to about 160,000 yuan. Based on current exchange rate (5 July 2018), that’s about 60,000 ringgit to about 98,000 ringgit. However, the cheaper models are equipped with a 2.0 litre natural aspirated engine. The cheapest model with a 1.8 litre turbocharged engine is at about 109,000 yuan or about 67,000 ringgit.

I expect that the development including the left hand drive to right hand drive conversion would add to the cost, roughly 5,000 ringgit and I’m assuming that the upcoming Proton SUV is to be only available with a 1.8 litre turbo charged engine.

Now, considering Proton’s current range of vehicles and that the upcoming Proton SUV being a C-segment SUV. It should be priced in between Proton’s current C-segment offerings: the Preve, Suprima S and Exora and Proton’s D-segment offering, the Perdana. Proton’s most expensive C-segment offering currently is the Suprima S 1.6 litre Premium variant at about 76,000 ringgit while the most affordable Perdana is the 2.0 litre variant at around 104,000 ringgit.

Making a guess, I would say that the upcoming Proton SUV will be priced in between 79,000 ringgit and 99,000 ringgit.

If my predication are true and if the upcoming Proton SUV lives up to the hype, than the upcoming Proton SUV will be a “killer deal”. Currently, the cheapest C-segment SUV in Malaysia is the Haval H2 at 100,000 ringgit and is definitely less advance than the upcoming Proton SUV.

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•Featured image – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gee..._2016-04-07.jpg
•Geely Boyue prices in China – https://suv.geely.com/2018boyue/




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post Jul 23 2018, 09:36 AM

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Based upon article above anyone can give any opinion of it ?? I hope it is true .. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 23 2018, 02:07 PM

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anyone got internal source about pricing and variant they will offer ???
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post Jul 24 2018, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jul 24 2018, 10:07 AM)
The problem with selling it cheap is that you sacrifice a lot of features that buyers expect from this segment of SUV. And people don't care how good it looks if it doesn't offer much comfort or convenience. It may work back then but not necessarily now.

So if Proton sells a variant that is 79k but is kosong version, people will pay an extra 10k and get the nicer model instead with a lot more features that you can get from more established carmakers.

So yeah, don't even bother with a cheap kosong variant because I strongly believe no one will get one. 89k starting price but very well equipped from the beginning is what the market wants as long as it undercuts the main rivals.
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maybe they basic variant edy had more than emough feature leh ... we never know ...
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Joe Kreutz @ Jul 24 2018, 11:03 AM)
Serious questions here. Does this geely boyue using volvo engines or not?

Personally my biggest sticking point with proton is their engine is so rough. If you start the car and left it idle you can hear it growls. Compared to toyota honda and perodua, their engines refinement is far better
Not mentioning the fuel consumption which proton has already improved and not a valid concern when you're buying suv anyway.

But the engine.. so rough i feel like driving dinosaur
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nope .. is geely TGDi engine .. code name JLE-4G18TDB (update from JLE-4G18TD)
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:08 AM

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THEY SAID THIS engine they are based on EA888 engine from VW and modified to its own model engine
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Jul 24 2018, 11:10 AM)
If Kia South Korea wanna get serious, they would be more hand on than today. As is, Naza is doing a huge disservice to the brand, until today just the name Naza invoke the lousy after sales service image, typical crony that only knows how to sell, but incompetent to take care of it.

Aside from CH-R, I don't see what other changes UMW is doing. They got do Vios racing series got la, which is absolutely topkek to me, just shows they really lost the plot. Their customer base had always been conservative people that cares about RV, doing all these racing series will not attract them.
I think a few years ago, here in /k got fedup with people keep buying Vios, that's why it's given the name Godcar, it's literally flawless to many people, when it is a super overpriced tin milo.

Today their sales fall so bad to Honda. Change can happen if Proton is persistent enough, and as long as they keep their after sales customer service acceptable, people will buy Proton I believe.

People buy Perodua because of Toyota engine. Put Campro in it, they won't sell. Put Toyota engine in Iriz, Saga it will laku keras.
Proton actually rarely got reliability issue with the important bits like engine, gearbox (except Punch CVT and turbo ones). It's the other things that annoy people eg power window, rattling plastic, door handle fragile etc.
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i think ppl will buy proton but (geely product).. i think current models and design from proton will be phase out soon and no more campro engines
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Jul 24 2018, 11:16 AM)
For sure, I think got leak before slides of Proton's future plan include MPV, a B-segment SUV. This B-segment SUV can be a real Perodua killer if can price circa RM50k-60k.

Even last year, during press conference of Geely buying Proton, some Geely big guys edi said they wanna update Proton with latest Euro 6 powertrain, so campro, punch CVT is really on its last leg.
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dun forget perodua also wanna out its D38L project SUV .. to fight with proton ... this gonna be good to us .. got competitive got improvment , and benefit consumers like us
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jul 24 2018, 11:18 AM)
thats why preve was given last minor facelift before phasing out

if only they used 6-speed manual on current base turbo preve
confirm jual keras.
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if they keep their good name maybe ya .. but they name edy kotor ... how good also cannot sell
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Joe Kreutz @ Jul 24 2018, 11:19 AM)
So they will phased out campro? Not really a lost there.

How about the ricardos engine? Supposed to debut either this year or next year according to proton's original plan right?
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still ricardoes engines again ??? that i think edy become unknown forevor
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 24 2018, 11:20 AM)
No, they are using Mitsubishi Engine.
1.8 L 4G18 I4
2.0 L 4G20 I4
- From Wikipedia

You should try pijot or renault, their engine roars like dinosaurs..

Those who owned Proton before Preve-era are terrorized by the quality of the accessories, power windows, and fuel consumption. So they are like "Swear I won't get another Proton". then they probably had switched to H, T or P2 brand.

So for Proton to win back their old customers, they need to do better. better than T, H brand, at least P2 brand. to win back their trust.

How better? They need to figure it out.
And i don't think they put Volvo engine into the Boyue can sell well here..Cost of the engine?
>Still can't win our trust.
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cannot be volvo engine .. else no body will buy volvo.. it affect their business sales
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jul 24 2018, 11:23 AM)
that is 2016 model.. dun forget proton SUV is 2018 model ..
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jul 24 2018, 11:21 AM)
Any source on this?

The connections I see is that both are available in 1.8 turbo and is also direct injection on both. But at the same time the Geely engine is using Mitsubishi coding (4G) and is more powerful than VW one (181hp/285nm vs 170hp/270nm).

Maybe they reversed engineered the VW engine and made improvements to the design but there's no concrete proof on this.
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yup.. in chinese ..

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...n&ct=clnk&gl=my
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Jul 24 2018, 02:26 PM)
Boyue guna engine apa? Does anyone know? In other word, who made engine for Boyue?
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model name JLE-4G18TDB .. you can google it regarding more about this engine
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post Jul 24 2018, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(memekfalui @ Jul 24 2018, 04:44 PM)
Confirm above 100k
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then no laku edy ... cannot sell ...
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post Jul 25 2018, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(mydurian @ Jul 25 2018, 09:35 AM)
Proton + made in china? =  puke.gif
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made in china does not mean no good .. look at china phones in malaysia market .. is increasing .. and even better than other country .. cheaper yet latest technology
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QUOTE(PlayMaker` @ Jul 25 2018, 09:38 AM)
the engine also made in china ka?
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yes it is all pure in china made ..
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post Jul 25 2018, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(batangria @ Jul 25 2018, 09:47 AM)
let's say if the Proton SUV is retailing at RM95K for 2.0L version, what do you think?
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there is no 2.0L version in malaysia .. only 1.8L turbo charge variant
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QUOTE(batangria @ Jul 25 2018, 10:03 AM)
turbo needs very regular maintenance, problem la wei
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maybe this one no need ??? will wait and see
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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jul 25 2018, 10:41 AM)
Why need to worry about being a first batch "victim", it's  already in production for almost 4 years now. I'm guessing by the time the car arrives here, the engine already has quite a few incremental updates from testing done in China and locally. It might not fix everything but at least there's a benefit of a doubt.
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i still hope the price is affortable ... then maybe some ppl dare to try it out .. and i also as i never try out suv ... if price is nice sure i would like to try out

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