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Discussion Why some people doesn't like EPL?, give ur reason

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post May 25 2007, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(maxima @ May 25 2007, 02:32 PM)
3 English team in Champions league Semi Final but none can win the CUP.

Serie A rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EPL (play like cow) Seria A (play with brain).
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QUOTE(zickey @ May 25 2007, 08:15 AM)
I wonder why some people doesn't like EPL. Some of them said EPL is boring and not much skills so I and maybe others want to know why some of you doesn't like EPL. Maybe you got your own reason.

I hope this thread will be a good discussion not a flame war.

As for me any football league is just the same.
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Serie A rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EPL (play like cow) Seria A (play with brain).


And this is the type of post which will spark potential flamewar rclxub.gif
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post May 25 2007, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ May 25 2007, 02:39 PM)
And this is the type of post which will spark potential flamewar  rclxub.gif
Yeah well judging by how insightful his post was, I think it's best not to honour it with a response.
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post May 25 2007, 02:50 PM

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Actually I much prefer Serie A than EPL, unfortunately the number of live telecasts of Serie A as well as time (mostly late nite) are not as good as EPL.

We cant really compare between the leagues now because the number of live telecasts as well as time is different for each league. If say La liga and EPL timezones were reversed, perhaps we'll get more la liga fans than epl?
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post May 25 2007, 03:20 PM

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well in truth, the EPL is much more exciting as most teams tend NOT to sit back and defend leads, and will really have a go for it. although it has long become a cliche, but the Serie A is really a tactical battle at most times, so for a fan to sit through 90 mins of such battles....susah a bit lah....

i have watched La Liga as well, more skilful and more unpredictable, but more of a mix of both EPL and Serie A. also, it's quite hard to go through matches when you are a neutral simply because no emotions will be displayed at all, thus i find it hard to watch games between, let's say, Real Madrid v Getafe as I don't follow these 2 teams closely. having said that, some of the big matches (like RM v Barca) are real treats to watch as form books normally go out the window, as well as tactical nous. football at its best i would say for such derbies, esp the Milan derby, el classico and of course, any London derbies... biggrin.gif
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italian , spanish and other league commentators quite sucks... especially italian league it boring n lame... i think that is a major factor why EPL is famous despite of promotion...

anyway, some people dont like EPL because England team not that good lah not same like EPL...last time they won world cup is 1966?? n now no more...
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QUOTE(darun @ May 25 2007, 02:50 PM)
Actually I much prefer Serie A than EPL, unfortunately the number of live telecasts of Serie A as well as time (mostly late nite) are not as good as EPL.
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actually most of the Serie A matches play on times like 9pm or 10pm weekly. so the problem is simply bcoz no telecast for it due to the language barrier.


QUOTE(aw13 @ May 25 2007, 03:20 PM)
well in truth, the EPL is much more exciting as most teams tend NOT to sit back and defend leads, and will really have a go for it.  although it has long become a cliche, but the Serie A is really a tactical battle at most times, so for a fan to sit through 90 mins of such battles....susah a bit lah....
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well not really. teams in Serie A no longer 'sit back n defence' most of the time now. biggrin.gif

for 2 years in a row now, Serie A scored more goals than EPL n La Liga. of coz such stats do not prove anything, but surely Serie A is not like what many believe.

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 25 2007, 03:46 PM)
for 2 years in a row now, Serie A scored more goals than EPL n La Liga. of coz such stats do not prove anything, but surely Serie A is not like what many believe.
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is that true then? maybe i'm still old school lah. but i have watched Milan games for the past few seasons, and still think that it's a major tactical battle as far as Milan is concerned barring the derbies which were out of this world! maybe it's for Milan lah, can't compared with the Romas and the Inters simply because I don't watch them!
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In truth, I used to watch a fair share of Serie A matches back in the day. I have no favourite team but I did use to follow Inter back in the day of Mattheus, Brehme and Klinnmans. It was back when Napoli was still in the reckoning with Maradona and Careca in their fold.
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QUOTE(aw13 @ May 25 2007, 04:00 PM)
is that true then?  maybe i'm still old school lah.  but i have watched Milan games for the past few seasons, and still think that it's a major tactical battle as far as Milan is concerned barring the derbies which were out of this world!  maybe it's for Milan lah, can't compared with the Romas and the Inters simply because I don't watch them!
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i done a quick calculation, n what i got is EPL concluded with 931 goals, Serie A hav 930 with 10 games to go, n La Liga got 845 with 30 games remaining.

Serie A is still pretty much abt tactical of coz, as they usually wouldn't rush the ball upfront like EPL. its juz that teams now don't usually hold on with a 1 goal lead n sit back to block out the goal. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 25 2007, 04:18 PM)
i done a quick calculation, n what i got is EPL concluded with 931 goals, Serie A hav 930 with 10 games to go, n La Liga got 845 with 30 games remaining.

Serie A is still pretty much abt tactical of coz, as they usually wouldn't rush the ball upfront like EPL. its juz that teams now don't usually hold on with a 1 goal lead n sit back to block out the goal.  laugh.gif
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wow! not bad man you, mr statistics!

yup maybe you're right that nowadays they don't sit back and maybe try to make a game out of it. will watch out for that this week (since no more EPL)! smile.gif
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ May 25 2007, 09:19 AM)
sorry to say.... epl.... promoting too much... but cannot go to world cup... whats wrong??????
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i agreed...tooo much about EPL..why MU still loose to AC Milan?..FMO Argentinian league
much2 better.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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EPL is more fun to watch, more entertaining because more physical, fast paced, all attacking minded style with long balls. Nowadays many foreign manager comes so u tend to see lack of the english style of football. That's why Sir Alex is still considered the old school type manager. Tell me.. where can you see a team win 9-0 (United vs Ipswich Town at Old Trafford 1994-1995 Season), 8-1 (Forest vs United away at City Ground 1998-1999 Season) and even against AS Roma last season? Attacking minded bebeh... More fun to watch.

Don't think that EPL is played like cow as one genius suggested here. If so, then why do I see intelligent passing between most teams in EPL nowadays. Anyway the style in EPL now varies la, even Serie A also deploys attacking minded style already. No longer score, sit back and grind for a narrow win.

Most like to watch EPL because of many reasons la:

1. Atmostphere.. Only in EPL where all stadiums have fans seating near to the ground. Even no fences are there because of Hillsborough Tragedy and the Taylor Report. But it's so nice, where you can hear the fans singing..

2. Style of play.. Enough said.. attacking minded, physical

3. History of clubs.. Unique such as United's and Liverpool's

4. Language

5. Exposure.. Since the 80s la. Last time I remember.. Road To Wembley ditaja oleh Dunhill.. Gaya, mutu.. keunggulan..

6. Marketing strategy and others la.. merchandising such as jerseys (which helps made me a fanatic football jersey collector.. hehe)

But I don't think that other leagues are bad. All leagues have their own uniqueness and quality. La Liga has so many skillfull players because the latin players tend to settle there easily due to language and culture reasons... Like in the Astro advert la, the discipline of the Bundesliga, the skills of La Liga, the tactical minds of Serie A...


Added on May 25, 2007, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(PGV3910 @ May 25 2007, 05:56 PM)
i agreed...tooo much about EPL..why MU still loose to AC Milan?..FMO Argentinian league 
much2 better.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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If Vidic and Ferdinand was fully fit at the match in San Siro, I think the scoreline might be different..

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[quote=schmeichel7,May 25 2007, 06:23 PM]
EPL is more fun to watch, more entertaining because more physical, fast paced, all attacking minded style with long balls. Nowadays many foreign manager comes so u tend to see lack of the english style of football. That's why Sir Alex is still considered the old school type manager. Tell me.. where can you see a team win 9-0 (United vs Ipswich Town at Old Trafford 1994-1995 Season), 8-1 (Forest vs United away at City Ground 1998-1999 Season) and even against AS Roma last season? Attacking minded bebeh... More fun to watch.

Don't think that EPL is played like cow as one genius suggested here. If so, then why do I see intelligent passing between most teams in EPL nowadays. Anyway the style in EPL now varies la, even Serie A also deploys attacking minded style already. No longer score, sit back and grind for a narrow win.

Most like to watch EPL because of many reasons la:

1. Atmostphere.. Only in EPL where all stadiums have fans seating near to the ground. Even no fences are there because of Hillsborough Tragedy and the Taylor Report. But it's so nice, where you can hear the fans singing..

2. Style of play.. Enough said.. attacking minded, physical

3. History of clubs.. Unique such as United's and Liverpool's

4. Language

5. Exposure.. Since the 80s la. Last time I remember.. Road To Wembley ditaja oleh Dunhill.. Gaya, mutu.. keunggulan..

6. Marketing strategy and others la.. merchandising such as jerseys (which helps made me a fanatic football jersey collector.. hehe)

But I don't think that other leagues are bad. All leagues have their own uniqueness and quality. La Liga has so many skillfull players because the latin players tend to settle there easily due to language and culture reasons... Like in the Astro advert la, the discipline of the Bundesliga, the skills of La Liga, the tactical minds of Serie A...


Added on May 25, 2007, 6:24 pm

this mean tooo wide promotions of EPL...Spanish & english has same style of play..why spanish league not as glamour than EPL?

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coz spanish league doesnt suit Malaysia time
EPL got better atmosphere, the cheer and better commentator as well
but i support a spanish club, that's y i dun have the feelin to watch EPL lolxx
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QUOTE(hammers @ May 25 2007, 06:46 PM)
coz spanish league doesnt suit Malaysia time
EPL got better atmosphere, the cheer and better commentator as well
but i support a spanish club, that's y i dun have the feelin to watch EPL lolxx
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yup..thats one of the reason..time not suitable..
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for me it is because it is more to tactical, and not to the beauty of football
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ May 25 2007, 07:08 PM)
yup..thats one of the reason..time not suitable..
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Forgot to add one more point, the time zone factor. Yes, La Liga is played mostly when it's night here (around 1am or 3am). But EPL very clever, they tend to set matches at early afternoon or evening for asian viewing. They know how strong the market is here..
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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ May 25 2007, 12:14 PM)
Forgot to add one more point, the time zone factor. Yes, La Liga is played mostly when it's night here (around 1am or 3am). But EPL very clever, they tend to set matches at early afternoon or evening for asian viewing. They know how strong the market is here..
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So true man. People in Asia are considered lucky to have live EPL telecast, perhaps 2-3 games a day. The Premierleague has been extremely successful marketing the EPL in the Asian region. But here in the UK, Skysports only showed sometimes 1 game perweekend. Even the locals are always complaining. Matches kicked-off at 3pm UK time (10-11 Malaysian time) are quite rare to be seen live on the telly, unless the pubs have satellite dishes to receive coverage from other parts of the world, mainly from the Middle East.
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QUOTE(easypeasy @ May 25 2007, 10:06 PM)
So true man. People in Asia are considered lucky to have live EPL telecast, perhaps 2-3 games a day. The Premierleague has been extremely successful marketing the EPL in the Asian region. But here in the UK, Skysports only showed sometimes 1 game perweekend. Even the locals are always complaining. Matches kicked-off at 3pm UK time (10-11 Malaysian time) are quite rare to be seen live on the telly, unless the pubs have satellite dishes to receive coverage from other parts of the world, mainly from the Middle East.
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Hehehe.. I even heard a story where a match 10 years ago (Everton vs Newcastle when Les Ferdinand was their number 9) was being criticized by the Church because it was played on sunday in the morning.. Hehehe.. Maybe because of marketing factor?

Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal knew about the big market in Asia. They took the opportunity to travel here to expand their market... For the good or bad, that's the fact

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for me. i like the commentator in EPL talking and analysis the match so well..compare to serie A..its commentator very boring..fall asleep few times..haha

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