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hinder
post Sep 9 2018, 01:51 AM

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If you wanna marry a rich man, you gotta have the qualities that they want, and be as perfect as possible. You gotta work on yourself first.

Based on my experience & feedback from them, their checklist of ideal wife material is as follows:

1) Appearance (tall, pretty, attractive) -- presentable when bringing her to attend biz functions
2) Brain (intelligent, ambitious, highly educated) -- to be their partner, and help them in biz & career
3) Filial to his parents -- most of them are the only/eldest son, so what their mum thinks of their woman is very important
4) Can be a good mum -- they want to produce the best offspring
5) Talented -- have other hobbies or talents, e.g. singing, dancing, cooking, socialising etc

It took me 5 years sweat.gif to perfect myself so that I could attract the men I want. Yeah, I stayed single & unavailable for many years, just to polish myself to near-perfection.

How did I do it?

In terms of looks, I have spent nearly RM50k in the past few years on various skincare treatments to look beautiful, such as going for facials, mani/pedicure, hair treatments (rebonding, colouring), doing my eyebrows, lips, skin hair removal & polishing, body massages etc. Yeah, I look naturally pretty without any makeup; no need to edit photos too. With makeup, I look way more gorgeous. (Yeah, spent so much $$$, will of coz look fabulous.)

On a side note, a woman being able to spend RM10k a year on beauty enhancements without getting bankrupt or in bad debt is a sign of high earning power & prudent financial management. Men find rich/high-earning women attractive too, so be one. (Yeah, easier said than done, but can be done.)

Having good looks alone is not enough. If you are an empty flower vase = look good on the outside but have nothing solid inside, rich men will lose interest fast, coz you're no different from those hot chicks they meet.

So yeah, I spent lots of time reading books, esp. biz, finance, investments etc ("dry & boring" for most women), so that I know what to chat with them, and impress them. Then I also developed side interests, and learnt how to cook delicious meals, sing songs etc. & I work out to shape & tone my body; going to be age 30 but still look around mid-20s. 

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Hard work does pay off.

The outcome? Attracted many high-earning professionals, and went on dates with them. (Birds of a feather flock together  wink.gif)

Also attracted several rich men, who pursued/proposed to me:

1) M, eldest son of a bizman who owns a transportation company. Lives in double-storey semi-D, now runs his father's company. Stole my first kiss without consent. Yeah, punched him after that, but he was still happy.

2) L, eldest son of a bizman who owns a timber lodging company. Lives in double-storey bungalow, drove a Mercedez to fetch me at my house before, for an expensive lunch date. Confessed to me and wished to bring me home to meet his parents.

3) C, only son of a rich family, lives in single-storey bungalow, works in Oil & Gas, earning 5-digit MYR a month. Came to my house one late night (around 10pm+) to give me a box of imported chocolates. Parents are family friends.

4) W, only son of a rich biz family, studied in the U.K. Lives in a bungalow, inherits his family business to supply automobile parts to major car manufacturers. Wished to bring me home to meet his parents.

5) K, eldest son of a rich biz family, studied in the U.K. Inherited family wealth, earning 5-digit SGD a month. We're engaged now. Our anniversary trip this year is to Phuket, pre-wedding photoshoot will be in Taiwan, and the reception + honeymoon (destination wedding) will be in Maldives ← he suggested these countries.

Btw, I'm not working currently; he's supporting me financially. I have 1-2 years to relax and go travel, and upgrade myself to tip-top condition so that we can start own biz and family. He and I have discussed earning in MYR and also in USD, and sending our kids to international school.

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When you become the best, you will deserve the best. I didn't come from a rich family; was poor and starving before, but I worked hard to the top in terms of studies and career. That made me into a confident and ambitious lady, and not just sit there dressed in rags with self-pity, and passively waiting & daydreaming for some prince to rescue me. Nah, it doesn't happen that way in real life.

A few things to take note:

Firstly, rich guys don't like it when girls covet their wealth. They can easily sense if you are after them, or after their money. Money is important, but greed and materialism is a huge turn-off.

Secondly, of course, not all of us have the luck to meet/date rich men. It depends on the social circles/social class you are in. If you life is confined to just work and home, then chances are, you ain't gonna meet any of them. You need to actively go out and express yourself, be it in events or gatherings, or online.

Thirdly, it's not easy to manage wealth and multiply it. If you only wanna be a rich tai-tai who can't help much in your husband's biz/career, chances are, years down the road, you're out of the game, as you become liability and no longer asset. With great power (privileges) comes great responsibility and expectations.

Fourthly, if you're dating a guy who is earning an average income, please develop his potential and push him to success. Your aspiration, dreams and energy level can fuel his ambition to give you the life both of you want -- enjoy comfort without worry, and perhaps, a life of luxury one day. Don't just sit there and complain about him (look down on him and make him feel like a loser) when you yourself have done nothing much to upgrade yourself. It must go both ways/ reciprocal. In order to receive, you need to give first. Sow first, and reap later.

Btw, if a man feels he can't catch up on you, he'll either level up his game to be on par with you (great!), or feel insecure enough to let you go/ become controlling.

Lastly, love a man not for his money, but for his personality, his character, dreams and ambitions, and earning potential. The truly rich man is one who can lose everything, smile and start all over again, and earn the same pot of gold in a decade or two. Now that is what I call true wealth. thumbsup.gif

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OK, done sharing my part. Feel free to add on any tips and comments. No trolls pls; it's annoying. 

Btw, if you're a rich guy, feel free to share what you think/ what qualities you're looking for in a woman/ what type of women deserve you. & maybe give a tip or two about how you achieve success/ build wealth for our fellow forumers to learn from.
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Ralna, I have read your entire thread with great interest as this topic somehow has a direct correlation with my present circumstance. I read that you've honed the path towards marrying a rich man and I do understand and agree completely with respect to your convictions and motivations.

Just to begin, we are of similar age albeit growing up in different backgrounds. I would consider myself to be in the upper echelons of the world, I'm educated overseas, yes I'm the only son and stand to inherit the family business. This is not boasting. For you to understand the points I'm about to make you must first understand my background. I am not just another "rich man's son", I have gone through immeasurable suffering during the 1997 financial crisis which left my family in major debt - we were close to bankruptcy and it's safe to say my family lost everything.

You see Ralna, there is a distinct difference between being born poor (in this case, you) as compared to having everything and then losing them and having to make major changes in life (in this case, me). Because then when you are so comfortable and hell breaks loose you feel a deep pain, a special pain for your parents who continued to fight day and night to keep things afloat. I remember vividly the nights when my mother crying and screaming inconsolably. These are memories which I keep deep within my heart. I'm blessed. Our fortunes turned and once again the family business thrived. We expanded from palm oil to sand mining, concrete, bricks and glass. It's safe to say this oligopoly in the southern region is only controlled by a few major families.

That being said, you did mention your fiancee makes 5 digits in Singapore. If I'm completely honest, I too began my career in the Banking industry in Singapore and I hit 5 digits by the age of 25. This is of course, inclusive of bonuses as they do pay very well in Corporate Finance. Singapore is after all a Financial hub. By 28 I became an Executive Director in a foreign bank in SG. I shall not disclose any further as the banking industry is small and my identity can easily be unmasked based on the 2 paragraphs above. My point is that I made sure to do well and work hard because I understand the value of money - due to my past. I'm proud because through my own cunning and caliber I climbed the corporate ladder swift for my age.

I left the corporate world at 29 (this year) to join the family business.

Now Ralna, on to my main point. I'll be blunt so forgive me. You've done so much and therefore you need to aim higher. Based on your posts I can deduce that your impression of wealth is too modest, or to be blunt, low. You're impressed with a man picking you up with a Mercedes, earning 5 figures, etc. I'll be honest to tell you that any mid-level executive can easily afford a Mercedes. In fact I drove a BMW 3 series at the age of 25, fully funded on my own. Your idea of wealth is limited. The rich can easily afford exotic cars - Lamborghinis, Ferraris which go in the tune of millions. The rich are able to spend the same amount in a single shop in Paris and only fly private.

Onto the topic of gold diggers - I have met my fair share of them. I do not see anything wrong because their intentions are straightforward and so are mine. It's essentially companionship for gifts and meals. Of course, many will hope for a grounded relationship with hopes towards marriage. Nobody can blame a woman for wanting to be set for life, can we? Only smart women would do what you've done (and perhaps even more) to acquire a rich man.

I'm not belittling your efforts but there are too many beautiful, well read, highly intelligent and articulate women I've come across who can really hold a conversation on multiple levels to great depth - be it from financial markets to even religion. In the end I settled for none of them. I suppose matters of the heart is just impossible to explain. I went back to my first love - my sweetheart. She might not be flashy or as dynamic as other women but if I have to explain why, then I'd say that every instinct in my body points towards this woman to be the mother of my children. A woman who did not approach me due to my status or wealth and she's highly aggressive with great business acumen. This is an inborn talent which not many possess.

Ralna, I wish you only the very best. I reckon you're on track towards upper-middle class. Aim higher, because you and your husband have all the potential to work towards it smile.gif
















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post Sep 9 2018, 01:44 PM

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wow this thread really struck me as I just got an advice to get a rich man..haha

personally i would avoid rich man. I think the perfect partner would be someone not rich but try his best to be one. It doesnt matter if he succeed or not but I think its great for a man to be willing to do that..i really dont mind to keep living in a low cost house, being unable to buy expensive shoes n bags, or clothes.

I feel like the joy of buying those things are there when I rarely able to buy it. I think if i cn just buy them with a snap of a finger is just doesnt have any joy in it at all, knowing myself very well I might also take things fr granted and my attitude will screw up.

My family used to be rich, anything I want, they buy fr me. I was such a terrible kid last time until i realized that when my family was in chaos, I am such a selfish person all these while, so i changed my habit, and keep challenging myself.

Me being me who loves watching movie that shows girl go out with rich man, having paradise life, I thought of that last time and I did went out with some rich guys. Personally speaking, i cant relate to anything they say, and they spoil me that i feel like im gonna be a worse person if i keep hanging out with them. So i stopped.

That of course doesnt mean poor guys are the best, of course no.
There are poor guys who got attitude as well, surprisingly haha

what i found in some poor guys is that they always feel pessimistic n say "nah, im comfortable being this way"
It shows that they are just plain lazy and not willing to be a better person in general. I went out with that kind of person last time, and I just feel like me as a person who keep wanting to be better, lonely and unmotivated.

So yeah, i think its nice to see people not from their bank account, house n cars, but rather on their mindset and attitude.

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QUOTE(hinder @ Sep 9 2018, 01:51 AM)
Ralna, I have read your entire thread with great interest as this topic somehow has a direct correlation with my present circumstance. I read that you've honed the path towards marrying a rich man and I do understand and agree completely with respect to your convictions and motivations.

Just to begin, we are of similar age albeit growing up in different backgrounds. I would consider myself to be in the upper echelons of the world, I'm educated overseas, yes I'm the only son and stand to inherit the family business. This is not boasting. For you to understand the points I'm about to make you must first understand my background. I am not just another "rich man's son", I have gone through immeasurable suffering during the 1997 financial crisis which left my family in major debt - we were close to bankruptcy and it's safe to say my family lost everything.

You see Ralna, there is a distinct difference between being born poor (in this case, you) as compared to having everything and then losing them and having to make major changes in life (in this case, me). Because then when you are so comfortable and hell breaks loose you feel a deep pain, a special pain for your parents who continued to fight day and night to keep things afloat. I remember vividly the nights when my mother crying and screaming inconsolably. These are memories which I keep deep within my heart. I'm blessed. Our fortunes turned and once again the family business thrived. We expanded from palm oil to sand mining, concrete, bricks and glass. It's safe to say this oligopoly in the southern region is only controlled by a few major families.

That being said, you did mention your fiancee makes 5 digits in Singapore. If I'm completely honest, I too began my career in the Banking industry in Singapore and I hit 5 digits by the age of 25. This is of course, inclusive of bonuses as they do pay very well in Corporate Finance. Singapore is after all a Financial hub. By 28 I became an Executive Director in a foreign bank in SG. I shall not disclose any further as the banking industry is small and my identity can easily be unmasked based on the 2 paragraphs above. My point is that I made sure to do well and work hard because I understand the value of money - due to my past. I'm proud because through my own cunning and caliber I climbed the corporate ladder swift for my age.

I left the corporate world at 29 (this year) to join the family business.

Now Ralna, on to my main point. I'll be blunt so forgive me. You've done so much and therefore you need to aim higher. Based on your posts I can deduce that your impression of wealth is too modest, or to be blunt, low. You're impressed with a man picking you up with a Mercedes, earning 5 figures, etc. I'll be honest to tell you that any mid-level executive can easily afford a Mercedes. In fact I drove a BMW 3 series at the age of 25, fully funded on my own. Your idea of wealth is limited. The rich can easily afford exotic cars - Lamborghinis, Ferraris which go in the tune of millions. The rich are able to spend the same amount in a single shop in Paris and only fly private.

Onto the topic of gold diggers - I have met my fair share of them. I do not see anything wrong because their intentions are straightforward and so are mine. It's essentially companionship for gifts and meals. Of course, many will hope for a grounded relationship with hopes towards marriage. Nobody can blame a woman for wanting to be set for life, can we? Only smart women would do what you've done (and perhaps even more) to acquire a rich man.

I'm not belittling your efforts but there are too many beautiful, well read, highly intelligent and articulate women I've come across who can really hold a conversation on multiple levels to great depth - be it from financial markets to even religion. In the end I settled for none of them. I suppose matters of the heart is just impossible to explain. I went back to my first love - my sweetheart. She might not be flashy or as dynamic as other women but if I have to explain why, then I'd say that every instinct in my body points towards this woman to be the mother of my children. A woman who did not approach me due to my status or wealth and she's highly aggressive with great business acumen. This is an inborn talent which not many possess.

Ralna, I wish you only the very best. I reckon you're on track towards upper-middle class. Aim higher, because you and your husband have all the potential to work towards it smile.gif
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Hi, Hinder. Thanks for your time to share your life experience, and write a meaningful and enlightening reply.

I divide wealth into 4 categories, which are:

1) wealth from employment
2) wealth from business
3) wealth from inheritance
4) wealth, in terms of quality time

Most people make money from employment, so if they can make 5-digit or 6-digit a month, it's good enough to live a comfortable life with some luxury.

Then, we have those who make money from self-employment or business. The benchmark is, of course, higher, as businessmen can pay themselves as much as they like, and join the ultra-rich whose wealth is measured in millions or billions (7-digit to 9-digit, or more). They can therefore afford the private planes and splurge to their hearts' content. Often, their children or grandchildren do not need to work at all/ as hard, as they will inherit family wealth.

People who don't belong to the first 3 categories might belong to the 4th. These are people who work earnestly to make a living and earn 4-digit a month, while still having time to spend with their friends and family, and doing some hobbies. They are content with what they have. This is another form of wealth, coz quality time with family, friends and self, can be a luxury that the ultra-rich don't enjoy.

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My husband, well, I know him the way he is. He belongs to the first category, and he's not interested in biz at all although he comes from a biz family. He likes what he's doing in the corporate world.

So, I don't expect him to make millions or billions, since that's not what he wants in life. If he does coz I expects/pressures him to, that will make me a real gold digger then. That's not what I want to see. I want him to be happy and content with what he has achieved in life. I don't compare him with the ultra-rich, and burden him with my wants.

As for myself, I have quit employment to venture into training business. I've got myself 3 biz mentors to kick start with the whole biz-building process, which involves different but related niches, and also got myself several trainers to further polish the skills that I have. The total learning time will be 3 years, which includes acquiring several international certifications. The investment in re-educating myself is about RM40k-50k, plus a PhD in entrepreneurship that will cost another RM25k-30k for 4 years of study.

So, that's my plan for the next 5 to 10 years. In fact, I'll be the main breadwinner of the family. He knows I can make so much more money than he can, and he wants to live off me so that he can resign and be the househusband. He jokes that this is his "motive" to be with me. LOL.

Well, who knows what the future holds. I'm just doing my best every day, since the beginning of my 20s, be it in studies, career, health, appearance, relationships (social & professional), and others.

I'm optimistic of my future, coz if I could make 6-digit a year from employment in my late-20s, then making 7-digit or more from business in my 30s is possible, but with strategic moves and guidance from successful businessmen and industry experts to accelerate the whole learning curve, and achieve biz success and build wealth fast. This is the core confidence that I have, before I quit my job. With pure dedication into and zero distraction from my goals, I can hit the targets set by my mentors much faster, if compared to building biz part-time while working full-time.

Time is the most precious commodity, especially for a woman. I wanna get all these done before I have kids. I love them so much, way before they are born. I made the leap coz I want my kids to have the most nurturing environment to grow up in, and enjoy a happy childhood with both parents around most of the time. I don't want to be a working mum who stays in office 9-5 and OT a lot, and goes home feeling tired and worn. My mum had such a working life, so I don't wanna repeat it.

This is, in fact, the dilemma of most working mums. If given a choice, most of them would wanna quit their jobs and have more time for their husbands and kids, own parents, friends and themselves. Since I have the abilities and finances to do the alternative (get out of employment), I will, in the best interest of my husband and children.

If you ask me if re-education is a good investment, I'd say it is. I utilized my first two academic degrees to their max, broke even after the 1st year of working. After that, ROI after that was 800% in 4 years. That's 200% of returns p.a., on average.

Hence, I will always encourage those who want to make more money or more free time, to first get themselves educated in the industry knowledge and acquire expertise first, before they start any new job hunts, or ventures. & for working mums who wanna quit their full-time job to take care of their children and yet worry about losing source of income, this is the alternative to work from home or own office.

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I can totally relate to what you wrote: "I suppose matters of the heart is just impossible to explain".

When I first met him, I saw him as a good friend and confidant. He was unemployed for 5 months that time, and was dressed haggardly in plain white T-shirt and shorts. He's totally not in the category of men whom I'd go out with for dating or flirting purpose. Among all the men I had met, I didn't see him as a rich man, at all. He's extremely low-profile.

Why did I accept his pursuit? Hmm... coz when I first met him, there's this voice in my head that said, "You're doomed." (你完蛋了!) I didn't believe it, so ... and in the end, I was really "doomed"--- my single & carefree life ended abruptly, and the commitment to him and our family began. (Is this karma or blessings in disguise?? LOL.)

So, there you go. Another side of the whole story. wink.gif

This post has been edited by Ralna: Sep 9 2018, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(iloilo @ Sep 9 2018, 01:44 PM)
wow this thread really struck me as I just got an advice to get a rich man..haha

personally i would avoid rich man. I think the perfect partner would be someone not rich but try his best to be one. It doesnt matter if he succeed or not but I think its great for a man to be willing to do that..i really dont mind to keep living in a low cost house, being unable to buy expensive shoes n bags, or clothes.

I feel like the joy of buying those things are there when I rarely able to buy it. I think if i cn just buy them with a snap of a finger is just doesnt have any joy in it at all, knowing myself very well I might also take things fr granted and my attitude will screw up.

My family used to be rich, anything I want, they buy fr me. I was such a terrible kid last time until i realized that when my family was in chaos, I am such a  selfish person all these while, so i changed my habit, and keep challenging myself.

Me being me who loves watching movie that shows girl go out with rich man, having paradise life, I thought of that last time and I did went out with some rich guys. Personally speaking, i cant relate to anything they say, and they spoil me that i feel like im gonna be a worse person if i keep hanging out with them. So i stopped.

That of course doesnt mean poor guys are the best, of course no.
There are poor guys who got attitude as well, surprisingly haha

what i found in some poor guys is that they always feel pessimistic n say "nah, im comfortable being this way"
It shows that they are just plain lazy and not willing to be a better person in general
. I went out with that kind of person last time, and I just feel like me as a person who keep wanting to be better, lonely and unmotivated.

So yeah, i think its nice to see people not from their bank account, house n cars, but rather on their mindset and attitude.
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I agree with your points above, with some clarifications for all readers:

Not all women have the luck/ charisma to attract rich men, so, instead of hoping to meet one, she should invest in self-development and other improvements first. When she has leveled up herself, the men she sees regularly will be of higher quality, coz of the new social circles she formed.

If this works and she attracts the man she wants (rich/ successful/ her criteria), then it's good. If not, at least, when she meets the man she likes, and he happens to be an average Joe, she can influence him to become better--- not by pressuring him, but leading by living an exemplary life.

Sometimes, a "poor/ lazy/pessimistic/ complacent/ timid" man just need some motivation from his woman to overcome his inner fears and doubts, and push himself to be better. There's no need to nag at him to earn more money or aim for higher positions or better jobs, coz men actually know where they stand in life as compared to their male peers or family members (father, uncles, elder brothers etc). It's just that they tend to run away from problems, because it's so tough to handle financial pressure and other pressures/ expectations in life. They also don't believe they can overcome obstacles, not to mention having the confidence to do so.

Do know that, all men are in-built with the strong desire to succeed in life, and it hurts badly to be labelled as losers by their own family, society, friends and themselves, and worst, their own women. As for which type of success they want to achieve in life, that's up to themselves to define it.

I always believe that it is women's calling to help men develop and achieve their greatest potential. That's why women mature much earlier than men, biologically, mentally and emotionally, so that women can nurture men and also, their children. (Note: Nurture by NOT nagging!)

Some women respond to the calling, while some don't, thinking that men are grown-ups and should know what to do. The latter usually have the stereotypes about men being tough and strong, and must not show any weakness or shed any tears.

Well, all I can say is, if a woman wants her man to excel in life, she must first excel in her own life, and only then her man will be inspired and want to be a better version of himself. If she wants her man to be rich and handsome, she should first be rich and pretty herself, or else, don't demand. If she manages to get a rich, tall and handsome man despite being poor, fat and ugly, it's either her luck/ inner beauty or some dirty tactics, which she herself knows. Just giving an example here.

Mindset and attitude can be changed, but before we attempt to change our partner/spouse, we must first change our own to align to the ideals. What are the ideals? That's for both partners to agree upon and work towards together. It cannot be one partner setting the ideals, and then enforcing his/her expectations on the other. That's dictatorship, not relationship.

This post has been edited by Ralna: Sep 9 2018, 04:11 PM
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does this then mean, you are not marrying a rich guy anymore because, you are making your own fortune? tongue.gif

suddenly, you sound like the most understanding and sweet lady that it doesnt matter if I am making more than my husband which defeats the entire intention of starting this thread of 'How to marry a rich man'?

A man is still regarded as rich when you have bigger fortune than he has huh - in your context!

One more thing - you said earlier : Btw, I'm not working currently; he's supporting me financially. I have 1-2 years to relax and go travel, and upgrade myself to tip-top condition so that we can start own biz and family. He and I have discussed earning in MYR and also in USD, and sending our kids to international school

but you started business already? can be done so quick / easily?

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does this then mean, you are not marrying a rich guy anymore because, you are making your own fortune?  tongue.gif

suddenly, you sound like the most understanding and sweet lady that it doesnt matter if I am making more than my husband which defeats the entire intention of starting this thread of 'How to marry a rich man'?
Oh no no, please dont start. She will use her 'own' reasons to explain herself, while some of us here obviously able to smell her through her skins including me.

Some has already highlighted her inconsistencies in her past posts. Not exactly sure her motives, but one reason I could think of is attention whoring and trying to cover her ass. biggrin.gif

There is no point debating this situation which she draws in "her world" because she can never be wrong. I have known girls who are not that "good of quality" being accepted in the rich families. This is nothing new.
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I have nothing against TS but would appreciate a litte bit more consistency in her way of portraying herself. Given the poverty she had been through in her earlier years, her determination of moving into a higher social class has no wrong at all.. but what she is trying so hard to portray that I am blessed to have met rich guy but I dont like them just for money - really? Why try so hard? Could just openly admit my life partner has to be at the wealth level that I am comfortable with. TS also emphasized so much of 'upgrading' herself which is a lot of it is outer beauty - doesnt that reflect how shallow she and the guys she met have been. I am not saying outer beauty is not important but does it have to go that extend just to marry a rich man?

And TS mentioned for a lady to spend RM10k a year for 'upgrading' which average to about RM 1k a month. Assuming TS earns about RM6k – RM10k her take home pay will be between RM 4,800 – RM 8,000. Some maths as below:
• Upgrading outer beauty (aka investment) – RM 1,000
• Car – RM 1,000
• Insurance – RM 500
• Savings (assuming TS saves 30% of her take home pay) – RM 1,400 to RM 2,400
• Investment - questionable

In the scenario, TS earns RM 6k – she would only have about RM 700 to spend or if she earns RM 10k then yes, she has RM 3.1k.
So, question again is, if she regarded herself as high income earner, how are five figure salaries appealing to her given she would probably achieve them in no time (assuming TS earned that much in her 20s)

Then my question back to TS would be - what about ladies who earn 5 figure salary, drive a luxurious car, average looking but still single - where / what else are these ladies supposed to fix to attract these rich guys? Outer beauty, really?

My darling TS, great that things worked in your way but seriously trying so hard to justify yourself on what a catch you are - just dont bother.

Ps: Yes, call me bitter aunty if you want tongue.gif

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aiyo dont la. Me and the other 3 guys had fun exposing her lies back in July. Not going back to history liao lo.
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post Sep 14 2018, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jul 18 2018, 07:03 PM)
If you wanna marry a rich man, you gotta have the qualities that they want, and be as perfect as possible. You gotta work on yourself first.

Based on my experience & feedback from them, their checklist of ideal wife material is as follows:

1) Appearance (tall, pretty, attractive) -- presentable when bringing her to attend biz functions
2) Brain (intelligent, ambitious, highly educated) -- to be their partner, and help them in biz & career
3) Filial to his parents -- most of them are the only/eldest son, so what their mum thinks of their woman is very important
4) Can be a good mum -- they want to produce the best offspring
5) Talented -- have other hobbies or talents, e.g. singing, dancing, cooking, socialising etc

It took me 5 years :sweat: to perfect myself so that I could attract the men I want. Yeah, I stayed single & unavailable for many years, just to polish myself to near-perfection.

How did I do it?

In terms of looks, I have spent nearly RM50k in the past few years on various skincare treatments to look beautiful, such as going for facials, mani/pedicure, hair treatments (rebonding, colouring), doing my eyebrows, lips, skin hair removal & polishing, body massages etc. Yeah, I look naturally pretty without any makeup; no need to edit photos too. With makeup, I look way more gorgeous. (Yeah, spent so much $$$, will of coz look fabulous.)

On a side note, a woman being able to spend RM10k a year on beauty enhancements without getting bankrupt or in bad debt is a sign of high earning power & prudent financial management. Men find rich/high-earning women attractive too, so be one. (Yeah, easier said than done, but can be done.)

Having good looks alone is not enough. If you are an empty flower vase = look good on the outside but have nothing solid inside, rich men will lose interest fast, coz you're no different from those hot chicks they meet.

So yeah, I spent lots of time reading books, esp. biz, finance, investments etc ("dry & boring" for most women), so that I know what to chat with them, and impress them. Then I also developed side interests, and learnt how to cook delicious meals, sing songs etc. & I work out to shape & tone my body; going to be age 30 but still look around mid-20s. 

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Hard work does pay off.

The outcome? Attracted many high-earning professionals, and went on dates with them. (Birds of a feather flock together  ;))

Also attracted several rich men, who pursued/proposed to me:

1) M, eldest son of a bizman who owns a transportation company. Lives in double-storey semi-D, now runs his father's company. Stole my first kiss without consent. Yeah, punched him after that, but he was still happy.

2) L, eldest son of a bizman who owns a timber lodging company. Lives in double-storey bungalow, drove a Mercedez to fetch me at my house before, for an expensive lunch date. Confessed to me and wished to bring me home to meet his parents.

3) C, only son of a rich family, lives in single-storey bungalow, works in Oil & Gas, earning 5-digit MYR a month. Came to my house one late night (around 10pm+) to give me a box of imported chocolates. Parents are family friends.

4) W, only son of a rich biz family, studied in the U.K. Lives in a bungalow, inherits his family business to supply automobile parts to major car manufacturers. Wished to bring me home to meet his parents.

5) K, eldest son of a rich biz family, studied in the U.K. Inherited family wealth, earning 5-digit SGD a month. We're engaged now. Our anniversary trip this year is to Phuket, pre-wedding photoshoot will be in Taiwan, and the reception + honeymoon (destination wedding) will be in Maldives ← he suggested these countries.

Btw, I'm not working currently; he's supporting me financially. I have 1-2 years to relax and go travel, and upgrade myself to tip-top condition so that we can start own biz and family. He and I have discussed earning in MYR and also in USD, and sending our kids to international school.

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When you become the best, you will deserve the best. I didn't come from a rich family; was poor and starving before, but I worked hard to the top in terms of studies and career. That made me into a confident and ambitious lady, and not just sit there dressed in rags with self-pity, and passively waiting & daydreaming for some prince to rescue me. Nah, it doesn't happen that way in real life.

A few things to take note:

Firstly, rich guys don't like it when girls covet their wealth. They can easily sense if you are after them, or after their money. Money is important, but greed and materialism is a huge turn-off.

Secondly, of course, not all of us have the luck to meet/date rich men. It depends on the social circles/social class you are in. If you life is confined to just work and home, then chances are, you ain't gonna meet any of them. You need to actively go out and express yourself, be it in events or gatherings, or online.

Thirdly, it's not easy to manage wealth and multiply it. If you only wanna be a rich tai-tai who can't help much in your husband's biz/career, chances are, years down the road, you're out of the game, as you become liability and no longer asset. With great power (privileges) comes great responsibility and expectations.

Fourthly, if you're dating a guy who is earning an average income, please develop his potential and push him to success. Your aspiration, dreams and energy level can fuel his ambition to give you the life both of you want -- enjoy comfort without worry, and perhaps, a life of luxury one day. Don't just sit there and complain about him (look down on him and make him feel like a loser) when you yourself have done nothing much to upgrade yourself. It must go both ways/ reciprocal. In order to receive, you need to give first. Sow first, and reap later.

Btw, if a man feels he can't catch up on you, he'll either level up his game to be on par with you (great!), or feel insecure enough to let you go/ become controlling.

Lastly, love a man not for his money, but for his personality, his character, dreams and ambitions, and earning potential. The truly rich man is one who can lose everything, smile and start all over again, and earn the same pot of gold in a decade or two. Now that is what I call true wealth. :thumbsup:

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OK, done sharing my part. Feel free to add on any tips and comments. No trolls pls; it's annoying. 

Btw, if you're a rich guy, feel free to share what you think/ what qualities you're looking for in a woman/ what type of women deserve you. & maybe give a tip or two about how you achieve success/ build wealth for our fellow forumers to learn from.
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1. What is your meaning of rich please? Please kindly advice. Rothschild family!? Kwek Family!? Or those con man, gangster and so on rich family......Beside that, just to let you know a lot of Paria Tan Sri and Dato in Malaysia!

2. Study in UM mean excellent!? May I know what is the course, time to finish and result you have please?

3. 10k pa to spend in beauty product? Lamer!? I don't think so....you are not there! On other hand, it's not enough!

4. An excellent family will not take you as you don't have family background.......SERIOUS!

5. Job hunt always look for you......Sis, it's just an interview! What is the job offer please? Did you get it please? Basic RM15k or SGD15k!? A lot of malaysian thinking they work in SG are so great as they are earning RM10k per month. Hello, did you know the min income in SG is SGD3.2k for degree holder please? If you are earning, 5 figure SGD in basic. Serious, you are only few in the office.
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post Sep 14 2018, 02:53 PM

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Hi, readers.

I started this thread on 18 July 2018, and it's 14 Sept today. Almost 2 months have passed and this thread has garnered 32582 views and 449 replies.

Generally, this thread has drawn mixed responses, largely grouped into replies from males and from females. & from each gender, there are positive, neutral and negative replies from different social classes (lower, mid, upper-mid and upper class) and generations (baby boomers, gen X and gen Y). Such replies are expected since the topic itself is controversial. (designed that way).

I have also received private messages from (silent) readers, and became friends with them either on forum, LinkedIn, FB or WhatsApp. There are at least 10 forumers who know me in real life. (Just letting you know that I don't fake my ID or troll on forum.)

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Back to my first paragraph, when I shared the statistics gathered with a CEO friend who runs a digital marketing agency, he said:
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controversial topics are always great viral marketing instigators, and they are called epic content.


OK, that's something new I learnt from him when we discussed this.

Then I asked my trainer friend about why people responded the way they did (including myself), he said this:

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In NLP, there’s a presupposition call the ‘Map of the World’. Every individual’s map of the world is different and unique.

$1mil is different to different people in different context. I have friends who earn $40k a year but are the happiest people i know. I have friends who have $100mil to spend for the next 3 generations but are stressed over can they hold on to it.

A state of feeling e.g ‘Happy’ means the same for everyone, but the route to get to this state is different for everyone. It’s good to exchange views, but there’re always going to be different map of the world.


So, that's another new concept I learnt from him.

In this case, our maps of the world are different. We have different ideas about wealth, ideal spouse or ideal life, on top of others. These ideas may change from time to time, depending on what we experience as time passes.

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I stated in Post#169 that the whole post addressed 5W1H: "Who, When, What, Where, Why" and "How". The first post was structured this way: 50% about my experience, and the remaining 50% is for the audience.

From this thread, the main points for people to take away are:

1. What is your goal?
2. What are the requirements to achieve that goal?
3. What have you done to fulfill those requirements?
4. What is the outcome of your efforts?
5. What is the benchmark of your success?


In this case, the example I used was getting the man I wanted, since this is Cupid's Corner. For other examples, they are more suitable to be in other sub-forums (e.g Finance, Business and Investment House, Jobs and Careers, or Travel & Living), but the readers will then be a different group of audience.

The 5 questions above can be applied to any initiative you wanna start in life, be it in your relationship, career, finances and so on.

If you feel you can't get your dream gf/bf, or wife/husband, apply the 5 questions.
If you feel you can't progress to the next level in your career, apply the 5 questions.
If you wonder why you can't get rich, apply the 5 questions.
If you feel you have problems making friends, apply the 5 questions.
If you feel you wanna start your own company, apply the 5 questions.

Then, you'll realise why you're stuck with what's bugging you.

Success is never easy. & most of the time, when you start an initiative or share what you are doing with your friends and family, relatives, boss, colleague, strangers etc., you get mixed responses from people (positive, neutral, negative).

Many people are easily deterred or discouraged by other people and by setbacks in life, but all these can be overcome if you are...

1. highly focused on your goal (SMART: specific, measurable, attainable, relevant and time-bound)
2. highly determined in achieving it, no matter what or how long it takes, by hook or by crook (as long as it's legal and does not exploit/harm anyone)
3. highly confident, that you can achieve it no matter what people think or say to you, or how unfavourable circumstances currently are

coz, at the end of the day, you only have one chance to live the life you want. Even if you reincarnated or have an afterlife, it's not the same anymore.

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Anyway, the topic has served its purpose and objectives. It has been viewed and discussed many times till there's nothing new, and sometimes, off topic. I'll just close the thread coz the replies will always be repetitive of what have been discussed earlier, from page 1 to 23, which most people skipped reading. If you feel that you have something to say or ask, please pm.

Will I start another thread like this? Yes, coz I think it's quite fun, but not anytime soon.

My life has been ongoing at an accelerated pace. This is the 3rd month I quit my job, and I'd say I'm doing very well. I actually have lots to share after I complete this part of the journey (from employment to self-employment), but it'll be in other subforums.

Whether I'll be successful or not, time and results will tell. I'd say after years of preparation, I can now leverage on my resources to yield results faster, rather than doing everything on my own or starting from scratch (talking about forming Sdn. Bhd. here, not doing networking-related biz).

It's just like employment. You can aim to be the CEO of a Forbes 500 MNC, but whether you can reach that stage, is a different story. Time and results will tell whether your efforts are fruitful or futile.

Whether it's career or biz, relationship or marriage, or whatever it is, if you wanna do something great in life, you need to have the ambition for it. No ambition = won't plan ahead = nothing extraordinary will happen. The 5 questions listed earlier will help you to get to where you wanna go.

I wish you all the best in life, and if you have yet to experience it, it means you can do better. In fact, we all can do better, in many ways.

Thanks for reading. smile.gif

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