true oso new township, bcoz i actually from bsc, every morning i waiting in front of traffic light, always see a lot car coming out from puncak alam side, cant imagine if EG vp and road not yet widen
but the road from bsc toward sg buloh already expand to 2 and 3 lane road, while the one heading out to LATAR was only one lane road, currently see they are working to expand the road too (not sure handle by klk or jkr)

hmm...i shud not say ownstay...haha, is more ppl staying in the new phase other than a lot unoccupied house for old phases...
morning go work can see more cars waiting from coalfields side of traffic light and can see more lepak around coalfields shoplot there already

he stays there.

if working around PJ, subang, shah alam, klang etc will be not hard to commute... and actually from BSC to KL now... i think use LATAR can be way faster and easier than going out from setia alam... its nearer to the exit of LATAR than setia alam 'starter homes' to NKVE.... and NKVE is a mess nowadays... getting more jam by the day.... havent even consider the jam u have to endure before passing thru setia alam toll...

ya, i stay bsc while working in kl city center...travelling cost by car definitely high, but can be balanced by the money i fork out for the house..
setia alam starter house from how much (after discount)? i didnt research much about that area
normally if no major accident happen, going back from my work places to bsc takes around 40mins...maybe i got slightly over the speed limit la 

OMG underground empty?   

its look empty for me, very bad foundation from EW

Under the water pipe...its hollow...

But why so surprise? Most landed could be like this also....thats why developer dont allow casual people visit the construction site....

500k first phase is normal double storey terrace, called Graham.

the "Kinda smd but not full fresh smd but not quite link terrace" is called Avenham, more than 600k first phase if i remember correctly
but now, the Graham double storey S&P price around 650k, maybe can get 600k after discount.

in puncak alam... yes.... but the build up must be close to 2,000 sqft.... for EG.... most of the intermediate Graham unit should be way lesser than that.... but due to the concept and differentiation compare to other double storey linked in the vicinity... there are chances for graham transact at more than 600k...

yeah... the MKH project just beside eco grandeur... most of the subsales transactions close to 20% appreciation after VP and quite alot subsales transactions as well.... i think thats the closest data to study for EG here.... but frankly speaking... i can't think of why it can appreciate where most of the outskirt locations landed nowadays stagnant for quite sometime... most importantly all are leasehold here....   

Non cash rich developers need to launch....they cant hold empty land.

Beside once application for development approved by local council you have to launch within certain oeriod....otherwise face fine.

So more launches dont mean anything.

1 yr later someone will comment on press column saying over built and over supply.

Then neighbours will start hanging clothes on the fencing.........................

if you are owner check your dmc. stated balcony cannot be used to dry clothes

No idea what so fancy about this place lol..

May I know which house did you bought? So that we can understand your preferences?

I don't want to spice up anything, just want to see your opinion from your point of view.. 'We' in my mind, is people who bought the house in EG..but that's just in my mind, so you can ignore it..

I initially didn't want to say anything cuz, meh.. all devs are prone to criticisms and a fair share of .. How shall I put it nicely.. "Bitter blind? naysayers" Apt.. Now, I too am interested in what property you bought for own stay and it's atas or to use your words, non-bread & butter levels..

You might want to update yourself as to the absence of a residents only club house.. Norton Garden will come with it's very own exclusive club house. At least you acknowledge it's on Gucci & Prada level.. As for your wife's quote about scarfs.. She's absolutely correct.. However, you see, the Perodua Myvi ships with leather seats.. The Rolls Royce Wraith and Ghost series also ship with leather interiors.. Between the both, it should immediately be apparent to you, which is the proper premium feel.. So obviously, they both won't cost the same.. Hope these are self-explanatory and I do not have to return to explain in simpler terms that metaphors are being used. Some common sense required. 

I agree to disagree with your opinion.. Yes, EG should be at par with other EW projects in the term of club house etc..but for Avenham and Graham buyers, the price is good enough for us to buy one without the perks of the clubhouse.. I never buy any cashmere scarf, as all of my money habis already to pay for EG.. Let alone Rolls Royce, but I got a Myvi which I gave it to my mom to drive, and she's really happy with it! My point here is, the definition of good /great might be different, one man's poison could be another man's food, thus referring back to my question, "which house did you bought?"