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post Oct 26 2018, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 26 2018, 03:29 PM)
There was this atheist couple who joined and they had a lot of questions which included the Jews & Muslims since all of us come from the Abraham line. Ooh I loved questions for I had them questions to before I embarked on this remarkable journey with our Lord.

Anyways maybe if I don't disturb or attack the devil's kingdom, the devil might leave me alone instead, plausible ? Ha ha

Will read your theology slowly from now onwards and give you a thinker if anything shows up. God Bless.
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Oh I see.


About the devil...One thing I noted..the more you are a threat..the more their team will attack. Threat here means you're an effective Gospel spreader and people are getting saved or people get connected close to God through your ministry.

As not disturbing the devil's kingdom...very hard not to...we are called to make disciples of all nation, we are called to spread the gospel.


Sure take your time. you may disagree and it's perfectly alright with me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 26 2018, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 26 2018, 03:41 PM)
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I love the Holy Scriptures so much that it's now my only ministry. Since the wings have been clipped, I find I am totally lifeless. Unlike during Bible Class, the Holy Spirit is in charge but after class I would be completely drained and need to sleep even it's before midday!!!

We cannot afford not to attack the devil kingdom otherwise it will be our heads on the chopping block ! It's written in Scriptures because "... you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold - I will spit you out of my mouth" and that would be the worst thing that can ever happen.

As Christians, we are all, simply called to love ❤️ that's it. The more love ❤️ one has the more dangerous it becomes.

If I do disagree on something then I am sure now that it's not written clearly enough, that's all. Since it is always the same Spirit, so understanding one another isn't the problem. The problem is TRYING to understand one another, more precisely, trying to tune into the Spirit of God whose at the other end of the keyboard.

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post Oct 26 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 26 2018, 04:06 PM)
I love the Holy Scriptures so much that it's now my only ministry. Since the wings have been clipped, I find I am totally lifeless. Unlike during Bible Class, the Holy Spirit is in charge but after class I would be completely drained and need to sleep even it's before midday!!!

We cannot afford not to attack the devil kingdom otherwise it will be our heads on the chopping block ! It's written I. Scriptures because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold - I will spot you out of my mouth and that would be the worst thing that can ever happen.

As Christians, we are all, simply called to love ❤️ that's it. The more love ❤️ one has the more dangerous it becomes.

If I do disagree on something then I am sure now that it's not written clearly enough, that's all. Since it is always the same Spirit, so understanding one another isn't the problem. The problem is TRYING to understand one another, more precisely, trying to tune into the Spirit of God whose at the other end of the keyboard.
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yeah i agree...fellow relationship can be difficult and to understand one another we need patience.

I think for Christian fellowship to work...we can disagree in theology but be united in the Son of God.

after all...every denomination even the catholics and all others agree that

Jesus is the Son of God, He is both God and Man, Savior of Man and is part of the Holy Trinity, He died on the cross and was resurrected on the 3rd day.

In that theology alone we can all agree. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 26 2018, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 26 2018, 12:39 PM)
The dark side ? 😳🤣
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We can be friends and talk about the bible, but when it comes down to our differences and the gospel, i will not budge an inch. Hope you understand smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2018, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Oct 26 2018, 05:57 PM)
We can be friends and talk about the bible, but when it comes down to our differences and the gospel, i will not budge an inch. Hope you understand smile.gif
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If we are born again Christians, we are more than friends already !

Here's what I are think, it's not about differences of the Gospel, or theologies or church or budging or what have you which makes us different from one from our respective view points.

It's all about being born again. Period.

Before I was born again, the Holy Scriptures made no sense at all. But being born again, it suddenly became crystal clear like a new world suddenly open up. So it's true when Scriptures says "But when He comes, the Spirit of Truth, He will guide you in all truth. ..." I am telling you guys the truth, I know of things that I have never learnt of and I am not only referring to about Scriptures ! I can tell Licensed Surveyor what's wrong, architects how to draw a truly green house, heck I even drew my own house just to shave off another 10-15% on energy costs etc.

Likewise for it's also written in many parts in Scriptures e.g. Only a Holy person can understand a Holy person or there's no need for brother to say to brother ....

So I truly believe that by being born again, we will understand each other in perfect clarity just like me about you or vice versa. The words agree to disagree etc don't exist in my vocabulary any longer simply because it's always the same Spirit.

Can you guys follow what I am trying to say ?

Problems in communication only arises between those born again and those who aren't.

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post Oct 27 2018, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 26 2018, 06:26 PM)
If we are born again Christians, we are more than friends already !

Here's what I are think, it's not about differences of the Gospel, or theologies or church or budging or what have you which makes us different from one from our respective view points.

It's all about being born again. Period.

Before I was born again, the Holy Scriptures made no sense at all. But being born again, it suddenly became crystal clear like a new world suddenly open up. So it's true when Scriptures says "But when He comes, the Spirit of Truth, He will guide you in all truth. ..." I am telling you guys the truth, I know of things that I have never learnt of and I am not only referring to about Scriptures ! I can tell Licensed Surveyor what's wrong, architects how to draw a truly green house, heck I even drew my own house just to shave off another 10-15% on energy costs etc.

Likewise for it's also written in many parts in Scriptures e.g. Only a Holy person can understand a Holy person or there's no need for brother to say to brother ....

So I truly believe that by being born again, we will understand each other in perfect clarity just like me about you or vice versa. The words agree to disagree etc don't exist in my vocabulary any longer simply because it's always the same Spirit.
Ah, the joy of being born again. With regards to the new heart and new spirit:

Our heart is softened toward God. It was as hard as stone toward God before regeneration, but after regeneration, is softened toward God and becomes "a heart of flesh" (Ezek. 36:26). It has been softened, desires to love God and draws near to God; it longs to contact spiritual things and gladly receives and obeys God’s commands; it is not stubborn nor rebellious; although at times it is unable to obey, yet it is still willing to obey.

Our spirit is alive toward God. The spirit that was dead before regeneration, because of its contact with God’s life at regeneration, has been quickened by the resurrection power of God. The spirit, having been quickened, is able to contact God, to fellowship with God, to apprehend the spiritual things of God, and it has the strength to do God’s will.

Also, we love the brethren.

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 26 2018, 06:26 PM)
Can you guys follow what I am trying to say ?

Problems in communication only arises between those born again and those who aren't.
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But, in practicality, our old creation, our old man, is still with us, and we are still very much under its influence (Rom 6:6). Only when our body has been transfigured, redeemed, will we be able to say that sin, the flesh, the self etc. is no longer with us. But while we are still living in the old body sin remains with us, and, perhaps unwillingly or subconsciously, we may become entangled with it and stained by it.

So, if we are still living in our old condition and not by the Spirit, we are just like the unbelievers, fighting and striving. At least, we have a way to turn smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2018, 04:03 PM

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The Hebrew version of Bible are accessible to us. With Bing translation and google translation make it even more easier.

This is the Hebrew version if it reliable.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...-23&version=HHH

Find the verse here for Greek version
http://www.greekbible.com/index.php

Go to any translator website. The word 'never' do exist..

This is the aramaic version.
https://theholyaramaicscriptures.weebly.com/mat-7.html

However, even if we take (Cont Eng ver) "I will have nothing to do with you! Get out of my sight, you evil people!". I still think it giving us the same interpretation/message if we take the situation of the verse into consideration.
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:37 AM

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What justify you?

Romans 3:26-27 (NIV) - 26 He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus. 27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of works? No, but on that of faith.…

Morning Guys.

When we talk about justification, it's always in the context of what makes you righteous and how you get Salvation.

This verse means that you are not justified by your performance but by the one who justify your Faith. I'll say it again...you are justify by God because of your faith NOT because you performed well.

We need to take in the critical difference in the Christian life.

God Bless

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post Oct 29 2018, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 29 2018, 09:37 AM)
What justify you?

Romans 3:26-27 (NIV) -  26 He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus. 27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of works? No, but on that of faith.…

Morning Guys.

When we talk about justification, it's always in the context of what makes you righteous and how you get Salvation.

This verse means that you are not justified by your performance but by the one who justify your Faith. I'll say it again...you are justify by God because of your faith NOT because you performed well.

We need to take in the critical difference in the Christian life.

God Bless

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I've been thinking of this for very long time back then until I found the answer. This just remind me of it again. I agree..again!
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Vrese @ Oct 29 2018, 09:54 AM)
I've been thinking of this for very long time back then until I found the answer. This just remind me of it again. I agree..again!
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God Bless bro....Against the Grace of God, the devil has no say and has absolutely no ground to accuse.
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post Oct 29 2018, 12:24 PM

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The year of jubilee


The year of Jubilee in Leviticus 25:8-17 is recorded as a prophecy in Isaiah 61:1-3 and is fulfilled in reality in Luke 4:16-22.


In the year of jubilee there were two main blessings:

1) the returning of every man to his lost possession and the liberation from slavery (Lev. 25:8-17). Everyone who had sold his possession, his allotted portion of the good land, was returned to it without paying anything to redeem it (vv. 10, 13, 28)

2) everyone who had sold himself into slavery regained his freedom and returned to his family (vv. 39-41).


Returning to one's possession and being freed and returning to one's family signify that in the New Testament jubilee the believers have returned to God as their lost divine possession, have been released from all bondage, and have returned to the church as their divine family—Eph. 1:13-14; John 8:32, 36; cf. Psa. 68:5-6.


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post Oct 30 2018, 08:33 AM

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The Laws (OT) of God empower sin

1 Corinthians 15:56 (NIV) - The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Morning guys.

I am for moral excellency as well as holiness but do you know, character change for such virtue doesn't come by you deliberately keeping God's law, why? because the Bible says By the Law is the knowledge of sin, meaning to say the Law was designed to show up your sin. Look at Romans 3:20 below. The more you try to adhere to it, the more you will end up sinning. God designed it that way.

Romans 3:20 (NIV) - Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

So how do we as Christians obtain righteous living as well as holiness in character? It comes ONLY through "GRACE". And I need to repeat this..as we always have new audiences. The essences of Grace is unearned and unmerited.

If We truly understand these 2 verse combined, We need to look away from the laws of God and look to God's Grace as the way to Christian living. The more I receive Christ love unearned and receive God's "gift" of righteousness, the more sin loses it's attractiveness and hold. You are to receive your position of righteousness unmerited EVEN THOUGH you are still imperfect and sin here and there.

The ways of God are effortless because God is the one doing the work, not us gritting our teeth trying to perform.

I leave this to your spirit.

God Bless.





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post Oct 30 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 26 2018, 06:26 PM)
If we are born again Christians, we are more than friends already !

Here's what I are think, it's not about differences of the Gospel, or theologies or church or budging or what have you which makes us different from one from our respective view points.

It's all about being born again. Period.

Before I was born again, the Holy Scriptures made no sense at all. But being born again, it suddenly became crystal clear like a new world suddenly open up. So it's true when Scriptures says "But when He comes, the Spirit of Truth, He will guide you in all truth. ..." I am telling you guys the truth, I know of things that I have never learnt of and I am not only referring to about Scriptures ! I can tell Licensed Surveyor what's wrong, architects how to draw a truly green house, heck I even drew my own house just to shave off another 10-15% on energy costs etc.

Likewise for it's also written in many parts in Scriptures e.g. Only a Holy person can understand a Holy person or there's no need for brother to say to brother ....

So I truly believe that by being born again, we will understand each other in perfect clarity just like me about you or vice versa. The words agree to disagree etc don't exist in my vocabulary any longer simply because it's always the same Spirit.

Can you guys follow what I am trying to say ?

Problems in communication only arises between those born again and those who aren't.
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One question, who caused you to be born again?
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post Oct 30 2018, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Oct 30 2018, 08:47 PM)
One question, who caused you to be born again?
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Of course the answer is our Lord Jesus Christ himself.

I want to be born again because my life was hitting the brick wall at 30, for I had too many disappointments working for food that never lasts.

I understand what I am saying sounds illogical but no worries when I inform fellow RC's, they too never believed what I am saying. It's ok.

The strangest thing is this, while I was teaching the Word of God to a pagan who later converted, not only did he believed what I was saying but he wanted to have what I was experiencing with our Lord. Within 2 weeks things began to work for him as he was given an unbelievable pay rise plus there was another job offer from Singapore 🇸🇬! Miracles happening to a pagan, who has not even converted yet. How great is our Lord.

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post Oct 31 2018, 04:38 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 30 2018, 08:58 PM)
Of course the answer is our Lord Jesus Christ himself.

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That is correct.

Many people think they came to Jesus on their own strength, or will.

But the text is very clear, believers are born of the Spirit. You didnt contribute anything to your physical birth, you didnt contribute anything to your spiritual birth.

Salvation is all the act of God.
QUOTE(amy85 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:21 AM)
Can a Christian married a non beliver?
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Short answer, not recommended.

Unless you are prepared to pray for your spouse's salvation for the rest of your life.

And also be prepared for a whole world of pain.
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QUOTE(amy85 @ Oct 31 2018, 06:22 AM)
Not recommend meaning what , you think it's easy to find a Christian partner? We are human being with preference, it's already hard to find a partner in general.
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Of course it's not easy.

Based on my own observation, the non-believing partner almost always takes the believer away from church.

Seems like you already have your own answer.

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post Oct 31 2018, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(amy85 @ Oct 31 2018, 06:22 AM)
Not recommend meaning what , you think it's easy to find a Christian partner? We are human being with preference, it's already hard to find a partner in general.
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I pray & ask God for a Catholic partner, for Scriptures says how much more will our Heavenly Father provide if we ask of him. That is what I teach all younger generation of RCs.

I knew of a family with a daughter who had difficulty in finding a Catholic partner. The daughter being a doctor was open to any Christian partner but her mother was adamantly that he should be a Catholic after the miracles the Lord had done for her especially. After 2 ex-Christian boyfriends the Lord granted the mother her wish.

Thomas Thai, you are correct in your observation mixed marriages will have more share of their marital problems as compared to Catholic marriages and I suspect Christian marriages too. That's what I observed in my Catholic family too & within my church. Beautiful mother with lovely children but their pagan partner wishes to go their own way. Very sad indeed.

The worst has to be this, "My children can grow up believing whatever religion they want, it's their choice and will let them decide. Besides all religion is the same." Mind blowing crazy I tell you.

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QUOTE(amy85 @ Oct 31 2018, 06:22 AM)
Not recommend meaning what , you think it's easy to find a Christian partner? We are human being with preference, it's already hard to find a partner in general.
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of all the subject matter of finding a non christian partner, I can probably understand your frustration but thomas is right, there will be the risk of conflict not only with your partner but also with the parents if they are (example) staunch Buddhist or whatever other religion.

The thing about being a Christian is that; God has the best interest in your life and there is a divine reason why scripture says do not be unequally yoked with an unbeliever. (2 Corinthians 6:14)

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post Oct 31 2018, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(amy85 @ Oct 31 2018, 08:54 AM)
But in reality many Christian didn't married to Christian. This world is so big and relationship matter is complicated in general.
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Well, Christianity is not about following the crowd but following God. If other people do it, why not me? Well that is why there are Christians with different sets of life problems and as to why some Christians are so blessed in life and some are bogged down with hard life problems.

Your core problem is not about relationship matter that is complicated but the emptiness inside you which you (may) think will be solved with a life partner.

I don't know how long you've been a christian but if you've been long around enough, you should probably know that emptiness or longing or loneliness "void" can only be filled by God. Once God fill in that empty gap/void, you will not have this burning pain, you will be content.

I've been there. smile.gif

fyi: I know the complications is a problem but allow God to solve void/emptiness gap first then the time or choices of finding the right life partner will not be an issue.

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