Hi roman catholic, are you still roman catholic?

I see you are always hangout around here, just wondering.

She views it that if you speak in tongues you are indeed saved, same as how you viewed all those points you've stated.

There are many denominations that believe in speaking in tongues even though your's don't.

I don't think it's right to push forth the view, only one certain denomination is the truth, while the rest are false.

Yup I am still a Roman Catholic, wait a minute are you saying that RC's aren't allowed here ? I don't follow each post religiously that's all.

Your posting on Girl on a Mission thread on being born again did piqued my interest and after sleeping over it something prompted me to reply but unfortunately that thread vanished just like all previous thread on the Holy Spirit.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 26 2018, 10:24 AM

Quite sure he's just jk...you're welcome as long as you don't post dissension or hate or character assassination sort of post like some disgruntled people do.

I'm not holding a dogmatic cessationist view now, even though I have yet to see a real healing ministry. My friends who goes to these things are still ill, dying or dead.

But to say that one who does not display any signs are not saved, that gets on my nerves.

In fact, i dare say, most pentecostal theologies are built on error upon error. For example, word of faith theology. If you believe and confess, God will grant you your wishes, like a genie.

This post has been edited by thomasthai: Oct 26 2018, 10:57 AM

Of course you are welcomed here. We still want you to come over to the dark side

Just ignore that Mr Wong fella lah.

You want to become sign hunter ah bro?

You're gonna live quite a stressful life...

I'm talking about girlonamission. What r talking about?

You misunderstood the whole point of this text.

The disciples were disciples of john the baptist. They have never heard of Jesus before, that is why they did not receive the Spirit.

This is to tie the old testament saints (pre Jesus) into the church. That's the point of the text. This is not the norm for subsequent Christians.

The dark side ? 😳🤣

Oh thank you. That's a relief.

Strange thing is that post #486 has stirred up a question. So what is being implied in there is that, once a follower decides to become a follower of our Lord Jesus Christ, that follower is automatically saved, guaranteed a place in heaven ? Am I right to assume that way ?

try to see it from this POV and you can contemplate to judge whether it is true. I know there are a lot of argument revolving Salvation with a lot of restrictive pov argument.

Do you think for a moment God would send Jesus if He doesn't want you to be saved? I mean the OT 10 commandment to be honest is more than sufficient as the testing gauge for justification..imo Jesus did not have to come, if truly The Gospel is really heavily emphasized that Salvation road is not easy and it comes with great challenges you have to over come, mountains to climb.

Think for a moment before you answer this.

Now that leads to even more questions !!! Ha ha

OK back to the my earlier question, I would assume the answer to my question is a YES. If that's a yes, then why is it written in Scriptures that on Judgement Day, many will say “Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God's message etc etc." Then I will say to them, "I never knew you. Get away from me you wicked people!"

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 26 2018, 02:05 PM

Sorry for the 2x post.

NOTICE : About my earlier post of demonic possession, it was my mistake to say that the exorcism was by my effort & my other half. It also included the Spirit of God definately, and this was posted in some other thread probably less than 6 months ago. My mistake.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 26 2018, 02:04 PM

I've share this verse quite a number of times.....latest was in Post #421

Here is the extract:

It just means that these people wasn't born again.

It's a false pretense, a claim that they knew God, participated with God (His Kingdom Work) but here God says He did not know them. Meaning there wasn't a relationship at all.

There are people who argued that these are Christians and they have fallen away..core argument is that they could lose Salvation.

For me...When God says He did not know them, God isn't doing a tongue in cheek statement..Because God cannot not lie. How can God says I never knew you 'IF" supposedly the person really did what they claim (demon deliverance, spoke with power, etc)? It would just mean God wasn't being truthful. God could have said "I knew you but....."

With that being said....For the verse to have correct context, they are people who were never born again. They lied about being able to do miracles or speaking on behalf of God.

God does not lie but people can lie. That is the point.

Now you correct.

That's why it's so important to express it clearly. When that's done, it removes doubts and ambiguities. That's precisely the problem in our Christian world today.

I want to apologize to you my brother for my very first altercation with you in the beginning. I thought you were nuts earlier but later via many other threads, you seem right & level minded which was strange. Now it's clear, please forgive me.

Surely you must have thought where did this looney come from out of no where ? 🤣

I've been here for some time. Used to it.

People tend to attack you when they think you're some leader figure. I guess they personally got hurt in their own church by some other leaders and they take it out on me.

But never the less........and to be honest..I've past beyond caring against what people say.....too old and I guess..experienced to be bothered.

anyway....don't be too quick to apologize to me...there are some theology that I hold fast that many Christians don't readily agree with me.

You are not alone in that department. A scandalous allegation erupted against me in my own Catholic Church, wherein it was claimed that I am trying to convert adults into the Islamic faith !!! I praise our Lord, for what's written in Scriptures is also true.

Surely you are aware that this is the workings of the devil.

Wait a minute, you have different theologies altogether from other Christians ? Would like to hear them out but doing such things in person is so much better and precise than doing over online.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 26 2018, 02:50 PM

why Islamic faith? What did you say or do that even remotely relate to that?


Nah I don't mind to show it here...those who have been long enough already know.

1. I believe God prosper the believer from state of lack to as what is mentioned in Psalms 23....I shall not lack.
2. I believe God still works his miracle today, healing, etc. I believe health is in the will of God and not sickness or any other destructive incidents.
3. I believe in the Gift of speaking in tongues and all the gifts outlined in 1 Corinthians 12.
4. I believe God has made the way of Salvation effortless easy. That is not to say Life will be a bed of roses but Salvation is secured by the Lord and not me.
5. I believe despite we being imperfect Christians with many flaws and not able to meet up to God's standard of righteousness, God is still close and still answers and is still connected.
6. I don't believe in judging other Christians..be it pastors or fellow believer. There are just too much criticism and I strongly believe in guarding our ear gate from being contaminated from receiving such. I sincerely believe God is the only rightful Judge and Executioner, not me or anyone else. I'm to mind my own business as how Lord Jesus said in John 21;22 and 1 Thessalonians 4:11. For me all the permitted judgement that is granted to the believer are one of internal judgement. In that we as Christian should never use scripture to put down or attack another brother in Christ. I believe we are to let those in Church Authority deal with the wayward, not us.
7. This is best of all...I believe in OSAS.


hee hee quite sure this will trigger some people.....

There was this atheist couple who joined and they had a lot of questions which included the Jews & Muslims since all of us come from the Abraham line. Ooh I loved questions for I had them questions to before I embarked on this remarkable journey with our Lord.

Anyways maybe if I don't disturb or attack the devil's kingdom, the devil might leave me alone instead, plausible ? Ha ha

Will read your theology slowly from now onwards and give you a thinker if anything shows up. God Bless.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 26 2018, 03:30 PM