Heard of the saying "Grass is greener on the other side."?

Your friend hasn't worked at the Proton assembly plant, how could he know it's better than Honda? Maybe he'll vomit everyday at work.

And yeah, we'd like to blame your friend's lackadaisical attitude for crappy Honda cars. Can we cut off his penis too?

This post has been edited by Bernard Yeo: May 23 2007, 06:05 PM

There should be less problems with CBU cars.
Try telling those with lots of money to buy local cars for life. See if they laugh in your face.

Back to Honda Malaysia's QC problems. Seems as though the stock car is not good enough. Immediately after buying, you must send for repair.

So maybe foam and superglue must be injected into the A-Pillars, sound proofing mats placed between the roof and the ceiling. I read in another forum that someone got this Civic with one side higher than the other because of bushing or whatever...

Sounds like problems from an old car.

That Singam is a hard headed fool with too much time to spare. If the brakes are still crap after a couple of changes, go get some aftermarket ones! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for consumer rights and talking to the newspapers about your problems. But 8 times in the service centre and now don't dare to use the car? That's just dumb.

This is a Honda Malaysia quality bashing thread. We may have to make some comparisons to other Malaysian car manufacturers. If you want to defend Proton for instance, I suggest you open a "Defend Proton" thread.

I'm not saying Singam should get Brembos or Endless. At least get a good mechanic to look for a previous Accord model's brakes. It's his money and it's his family's life on the line. A car is suppose to work for you, not the other way around. Servicing the loan and not driving it is just making the car a white elephant. Well, that's how I feel about his situation.

You got a point. But notice this. On the 9th time he just keeps the car in the house. He's given up taking the car back to the SC, yet he still has to service the loan. I know there are people who have the tenacity (and they have the right) to keep going back to the service centre 20-63 times over the same problem during the warranty period. They can also keep themselves very unhappy because 4 days out of a week the car is in the SC.

I'm just in the opinion that Singam should go look for previous model brakes. Treat it as his feng shui for Accord brakes is not good this year or something. Other than the brakes, the car is generally fine. If he can use the car, I'm sure he'll be smiling every time he is behind the wheel. Yeah, he may feel cheated and he's not getting his money's worth, but at least he gets to use the car.

As for cronism, lets just say, no car manufacturer wants to be known as "All their brand new cars have brake problems." That kind of negative label stays for a long time and it only serves to drive potential buyers to other brands.

I know, I know... It's his right to go back to Honda one more time. I want you to know I'm not against that. It's just that it comes to a point where it gets too frustrating. Even he was too frustrated to take it back on the 9th time.

Your house example is not exactly like how Honda treated Singam. Honda is ethical to at least repaired and/or replaced Singam's brakes 8 times.

But I can relate to your house example too. I bought a RM270k house in Kota Kemuning. Within 6 months after moving in, all the houses in my area including mine were affected with a bad soil sinking problem. We had to form a committee to get the developer Hicom Gamuda to fix our problems. It was a big struggle but in the end they promised to help us remedy some of the problems (within limits). Some houses were even repaired twice.

There are no real problems with the house now, but it just doesn't feel good when I think about it. At least if Singam changed his brakes to another, he might finally solve all his Accord problems. I can't say that about my house.

Anyway, I hope you understand that I'm not talking out of my ass when I'm giving my opinion.

Really huh.... top speed is 230km/h for a ~155bhp automatic car. Not bad. Any performance charts to show us that? I've not been able to find any information on its performance like 0-100km/h or quarter mile at all. Would be good if you can find and share.

It seems like some mods are required to make it go that fast. The engine can take it, but is the chassis designed for that kind of speeds? Lets hope the car doesn't fall apart other than the A-pillar.