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post Dec 19 2018, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 3 2018, 01:54 PM)
I'm still in my 20s but am fortunate enough to have a decent family background and have the chance to travel around the world already.

I was hooked when I first discovered the FI/RE or FF concept but I have discovered that this isn't really for young folks.

I do agree that we should go traveling as soon as possible cause that experience and exposure will have added value on us and help with our holistic developments. The same with using branded-but-not luxury stuffs (some branded stuffs are just household brands in the west but frankly we're too poor to afford them).

I would generalise it as my generation is exposed to decent living standard now thanks to the internet age. it's really hard for us to live frugally when we are already struggling to afford literally any property or even a decent car.
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I would like to know, in what and how this help you to better arm for FI/RE?


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post Dec 19 2018, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 19 2018, 03:02 PM)
Then we are going back to the arguement "is travelling a boost to our personal skills or just a pure enjoyment".

That would be a 1000 words essay and I'll just state that I'm on the stand that travelling is good for self-development. It does in fact helped in my interviews, made me stand out in during my peers during working and let me have different views on investment per se.

Those are the points which make a person more valuable, higher pay and able to see opportunities and dodge risks. (actually made gains in bitcoins and sold everything before the peak and didn't go in like everyone else during the peak again)

This simply makes a person, i.e. me, to simply accumulate income faster.
Of course, my type of "travelling" involves a few weeks and a deep look in the culture of the locals, not just pure an insta-taking session like those "one week 3-5 euro countries" trip. Those are for me, pure waste of money and nothing to gain other than exhaustion and a great hit on the bank esp with our garbage exchange rate.
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so what u trying to say by travelling,
u have higher chances to get the job and more sound decision making related to investment?
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post Dec 20 2018, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 19 2018, 10:24 PM)
Those who has more exposure is likely able to adapt to new environment and challenge faster or easier. quick adaptation could be a advantage in the fast moving flat world.
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the goal is to achieve fi/re
i get it higher chances to score a high salary job but from there how one can achieve fi/re

QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 20 2018, 10:14 AM)
Well, first thing is that I can see things you guys couldn't see from all the things I have listed  brows.gif

Experience and exposure are stuffs one couldn't value with monetary terms yet having unlimited potentials.

It's the same thing about sending kids to overseas for higher education I'll say (having received one myself)
Wayyyy more than that and these two are the obvious ones ofc.

Useful for networking too  brows.gif
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tats good.. so how far from your targeted fi/re?
whats ur goal btw?
how much of ur goal related from the networking? izit sorta like investment/business at those travelling countries?

QUOTE(flight @ Dec 20 2018, 06:13 AM)
It broadens ur horizons and gives u a wider view of the world. This helps in everything. Of course this is assuming u r a travelling person.
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from books, article to ppl experience, i heard of only travelling after retirement.. this is or at least for me 1st time come across travelling b4 retirement will helps to achieve fi/re.
hence the curiosity.

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post Jan 24 2019, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ Jan 23 2019, 01:39 PM)
Hi guys, i have some question with FI, how do we know if we achieve FI? after our monthly passive income exceed/cover our monthly expenses?
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Technically, based on your goal.. if your terms/goal of FI jx cover expenses, congratulations! U achieve your goal

Mine passive income covered my expenses but being greedy/cautions, it's not enough. 2 reason
1. Inflation
2. Wants and desires

So I'm keep on working hard to gain more capital and those passive income re invested.


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post Jan 24 2019, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Tucker Crowe @ Jan 24 2019, 10:18 AM)
yeah...

I achieved FI last year, but I want to retire in luxury

So continue working lah  biggrin.gif
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Don't wanna retired living too frugally..
Aim higher, work harder for retiring comfortably

B4 global slowdown, stock market profit able to cover my expenses as wel.. now... Lol.. burned approximately 1 year worth of my expenses..


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post Jan 24 2019, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ Jan 24 2019, 11:03 AM)
retire in luxury/comfortable means we need higher number in passive right? i assume everyone have different numbers but in what income do you consider as luxury? 10k passive monthly? 20k passive monthly?
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Not entirely true,
As time passby, your view and lifestyle might differ/change entirely

Some towards more luxurious, some towards frugality/comfortability

But of cos, one thing is certain, u can't have too much of passive income..


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post Jan 24 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jan 24 2019, 11:42 AM)
You probably want to aim for a higher passive income before you stop working - the last thing you want to happen after you have stopped working (esp if you are over 50) is having to start working again due to you getting your financial plans wrong.
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Yup . Tats why I said can't have too much.. I'm still working despite passive income cover expenses..

Income + interest = re invest

As of now, my tools for passive income only investment
FD, stock and unit trust




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post Feb 15 2019, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 15 2019, 01:07 AM)
As only about 3% of adults in this country have over us$100k net worth mean most of reply are like asking a blind to lead a deaf.
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30m 3% is like 900k
Perhaps some of them are on this thread, who knows

Here is a place for you to share and discuss, even if none of them are here, we still can learn from each other.

What makes you feel the reply here are like blind leading the deaf?
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post Feb 15 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ Feb 15 2019, 01:01 PM)
if one need to live frugally means their income is too low? no?

if your INCOME is 50k monthly, you SPEND 10k/month and SAVE 40k every month, i think you can live comfortably with that 10k/month and still get to save half mil a year
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Not entirely true nor false
Some earning 10k but living like earning 3k while some earning 10k living like 15k..

It's either u find a way to have passive income the same as your working income or live frugally..
Plus living frugally does mean living comfortably tho.
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QUOTE(foolc @ Feb 15 2019, 01:34 PM)
i am getting almost 15k after all deductions.... spend about 7k including loans...balance safe ... considered good ?
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I would say it's very good, 50% in the piggy belly
Of cos higher the save the better.. so try to reduce the expenses of the unnecessary
Try make the piggy belly phat phat by itself, much more better


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QUOTE(honsiong @ Feb 15 2019, 04:53 PM)
Yes, if you can spend that little and still be happy, you can FIRE without being unhappy.

But then if you spend a lot and still be unhappy, you prolly need to budget well to ensure the things you spend on really generate happiness for you, otherwise kena examine where did the money go, are they not making you happy and you should cut them down.
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well, i have been taught to live frugally since i was small but with some added twist.. lol.. not as frugal as parents.. man they are LEGEND.. seriously respect!

now my FD and dividend able to cover my monthly expenses with much leftover..
and now im aiming for 2x the amount with unit trust, hopefully.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 21 2019, 11:27 AM)
Those so-called 'fire sale' are still expensive if compared to prices prior to 2012. Usually the price would be 10-20% lower than market price only, but over the years, prices have shot up tremendously, some up by ridiculously as much as 100%. So we can still wait for the market to "re-adjust" itself, then only we go into bank lelong.
Mostly due to foreclosure as many of the auction units are in the range of RM300k - RM500k range.
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I agree with your view as well.. too high price for "flip" but still ok if for own stay


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post Nov 25 2019, 01:21 PM

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Imo got two type

1. Work hard filling the pot to maintain your lifestyle

2. Lowering your lifestyle so that the money pot can last until you die

There's no exactly the right or wrong way. Tho I don't agree extreme frugality to the point it harms you, be it health or mental.
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QUOTE(hft @ Nov 25 2019, 03:22 PM)
Yeah, focus on spending is key.
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Well, I would say, some buffer or overhead is good when calculating the amount you spend monthly.. ontop of inflation rate.

Otherwise, you will frustrated and stress out when some out of the blue incur.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jun 30 2020, 03:22 PM)
i can agree with this as I have also dabbled in starting up a business in my industry for a year. but decided it was too much work and quit too.

I had three good paying customers before i even hired workers too..

but at the end, business start up are mostly bottom of the food chain. You will get bullied and pushed around by the bigger guys for years and years. Also, poor paymasters and constant stress in paying your workers with no money coming in, means you are always working on edge and doing unhealthy things.

Not easy being a businessman.
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ya agreed
personally encountered with such bastard. its not like they having financial trouble but rather its their ego problem.
i cut off doing business with them and the ''partner'' come and ''apologise''

more established businesses can just cut them off without affecting business much but startup had no choice to continue with them. and its this type of ppl making startup harder to survive
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QUOTE(mmweric @ Jul 12 2020, 01:45 PM)
No difference whether you're big or small.  When you're big small guys will come along and try to undercut you and the customers will use the small guy to push down your price.  Sometimes your ex-staff becomes the small guy too.

Customers squeeze you because they either have KPIs or they want to be more profitable so don't take it personally.
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well, it was based on my experience.
when you are more established, you will have more bargaining power.
for such troublesome customer, i just nego the terms with them
i might sound arrogant but take it or leave it
if they have financial difficulties, just give me a call and i am ok giving them another month or two.
making me wait, refusing to answer call, not ''in'' the office when i going to meet them, man that is low.

during startup, most supplier, reseller, will take ''advantages'' on you, some will delay payment, ''forcing'' you to give discount pricing, ''forcing'' take in quota, cash payment for supplies.

sure, its not worth your time and effort to take it personally. i have much more better things. biggrin.gif


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