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 FI/RE - Financial Independence / Retire Early, Share your experience

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post Nov 21 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Dd2318 @ Nov 21 2019, 02:03 PM)
Sifu Icemanfx, you still an Economics undergrad, or, already working n swimming with investment?

I mean it respectfully, as I m trying to understand as forumers are of diff demographics, risk aversion, etc.

People like myself, no hope liao. Thankful to be healthy, working, etc... But nothing much to look forward to financially.

But, the things u all describe is like moon n stars leh. Malaysia OK place to stay mah. Why forumers complain? My uncle last week go KL GH, got this abdominal artery anuresym... We cannot afford mah, reference letter, n only KL can do Ops n hospital stay rm211.

I think if in Singapore, my uncle already cover white cloth liao.
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Have to agree on this.
Overseas, no money, no medical insurance, please do not get sick.
Even dental cost a lot. Here Rm1 or Rm2, (forgot which, few months ago just go to gov hospital to have teeth filing on few teeth)

Malaysia is actually quite a economic place for retirement.
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post Nov 21 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Nov 21 2019, 03:29 PM)
Yes, it is. If you can retire... some would have to work till they dropped dead as like the news of the 63yr old bus driver in Penang.

Anyway, the thread is on retiring early, meaning retiring much earlier than the mandatory retirement age of 60. The last few pages were more on seeking wealth and asking for stock tips. LOL.
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This is more for elite people and few percentage people.
In current capitalism world, rich become richer only, just like a pyramid tree. Only a number of top people can afford to do so.
Most work until last breath or until retirement age.
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post Dec 3 2019, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Dec 2 2019, 10:07 PM)
Agree. Wife and I have no children - one less variable to consider.
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Dec 2 2019, 10:17 PM)
Yes. Kids can cause parents to delay retirement significantly , both in terms of ongoing educational expenses and also to earn as much as possible to pass on to kids. Not likely to retire if income is high in that case.
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Money is not everything in life, although no money cannot live.

There is something called family as well.

If money is everything, no wife is even better, less one liability. laugh.gif
Can always change new fresh girl friend.. devil.gif

When you old time, and see friends' family and kids so cute, then it is like missing something in life.
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:30 PM

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Enough or not enough is more about personal expenses and we know every person expense is never the same.

T20 High income people said 150k is not enough, because they every year already spent more than this amount.

M40 Middle class one, 150k is enough as they never spent more than this amount, as they never earn more than this amount every year

B40, 150k is a dream figure already.

So how to define the "enough"?

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post Dec 30 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(cynthusc @ Dec 30 2019, 02:29 PM)
LOL...M40..."150k is enough as they never spent more than this amount, as they never earn more than this amount every year"

But what if I earn more than 700K per annum but think that RM150K per annum is enough because I don't spend that much without my loans and dependants?
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700K is for T20, not M40.
Generally, M40 is not being categorised in a earning figure that more than 150K pa.

Yes, congrat, if a T20 is earning 700k and view 150k is enough means that the person is quite prudent in financial management.

Previous post was a respond to statement of 150k is not enough, and many people hardly have those earning, let alone 150k passive income for retirement.
So it is hard to define or say how it is enough or not enough.


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post Jan 18 2020, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(kbr3813 @ Jan 18 2020, 02:55 PM)
FIRE is not for everyone as suffering for like 20 years to retire earlier might not be for everyone.  The principles are great, but it should be everyone personal decision on the balance they want to achieve.
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Frugal is not equal to suffering. Not buying iPhone and resort to economy smart phone will save a lot in long term and easier to achieve Fire, and by doing so, don't think it is considered suffering.

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