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 FI/RE - Financial Independence / Retire Early, Share your experience

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real55555
post Feb 20 2019, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Feb 19 2019, 10:48 AM)
I am not a rich guy, but I have achieved FI (still about 11 years to my scheduled RE age), but I do not plan to get any property YET as I feel it will disrupt my plan to RE.
Everyone has a different approach depending on your situation. No one way is the perfect way to achieve FIRE (ie doesn't necessarily mean everyone who FIREd will have to have a property).

There could be 2 versions to your question above:-

1. Do you need to buy a property in order to achieve FIRE?

2. Could you delay the property purchase until you have FIREd?

There are very distinctive differences between these 2, and I chose the latter. I am still renting my house (and rented out other empty rooms as I only needed 1 room).
Again I would like to stress that this is based on my situation (in my 30's and unmarried with a stable job).
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That would depend on what purpose you are getting the property. If for own stay, yes, by all means go and get one.

FIRE that achieved now doesn't mean can be maintained in longterm, so we need to reduce regular expenses that will rise in cost for example rental. Unless your passive income after achieving FIRE surpass your expenses that means you still allow to grow your wealth.

However if you are thinking of getting property to rent out, depending on the outcome, it could severely impact your FI and RE. A good property will benefity u but also bear in mind you could bought a property that does is less attractive in terms of rental market and appreciation and that would bog you down in your FIRE.

QUOTE(missfarren @ Feb 19 2019, 12:21 PM)
if this case, is this good?

cars:

bmw 3 series 4 years old (fully paid off)

honda civic ketam 2 years (bought cash)

House : Loan rm400K to go (will settle in 5 years by paying extra)

other commitments : rm2.5K pm
Monthly no savings as all dump into house  (about rm8k per month)

Other passive income : rm3000 per month (accumulating) - in asnb cash rm600k

Expected epf in 15 years : 3.8mil
Summary cash in 15 years including saving : Approx rm5 mil in total with house fully paid off

cars might come n go as need to change every 10 years
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EPF in 15 years: 3.8mil. For me I won't worry much with such ammount in EPF. In 15 years' time. You are looking at interest income from EPF of RM209k assuming you don't withdraw it and assuming EPF can declare an average of 5.5% dividend p.a. (which is quite conservative if you look at last 10 years' epf dividend rate)
real55555
post Feb 20 2019, 12:34 PM

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Apologies if this has been mentioned because only come across this thread today and cannot read all 43 pages of it.

By hard saving your salary/income to achieve FIRE early, there are definitely sacrifices to be made. A lot of our spendings are actually unneccesary spending.

Do you need Iphone X when your Iphone 5 is still working well? Do you need to use Michelin tyres when ChingChong China tyres at half the price can do the job? Do you need to wear Nike when Bata cost only 30% of the price you paid for a Nike shoes? Do you need to go travelling when it doesn't do you harm if you doesn't go?

First thing, it all comes down to personal preferences. If you can sacrifice these and still feel very comfortable about it, then just do it. If not, then you need to evaluate which one you need to go for and which one to forfeit.

For me, I cannot forfeit all lifestyle spendings as I feel I would regret in future, especially travelling. I am young now and still able to walk for whole day without any problem, able to go for solo trips or trip with partner, nothing to stop me from travelling except limited funds. But in future circumstances could be different. Could be kids - need taking care of, physical limitations - as we grow older our physical conditions naturally deteriorate, partner limitations - physical or lifestyle commitments, location limitations - climate change, war, environment etc)

And of course the downside to this is that if we are to go for FIRE, it would definitely have a severe impact on the time frame of it, or even the outcome of it.

Having said all these, it still comes down to personal preferences. If one feel that retiring at 40 years old is what they really want, by all means all sacrifices made now is worth it. The key is to consider carefully and have no regrets in future.

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