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post Sep 11 2019, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 3 2018, 01:29 PM)
All, there are active communities in oversea that working on FI/RE by hard saving, investing and living below our means.
For sure there are also FI or already RE people in here.

Appreciate to share your experience; Pre-FI/RE and Post-FI/RE life.

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#I’m working towards FI/RE and currently saving/invest 50-60% of my monthly salary. (On top of this around 20-25% spent for commitment like ASB loans and properties).
I like to hear sharing from all who working towards FI/RE so we can learn in term of planning, lifestyle, achievement, obstacles and etc.

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FI/FF is the priority that we need to work on - planning, executions, monitoring and improvement

RE - Decision is yours once achieved FI/FF

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This has been the community and learnings that I have been looking forward, will now track this thread and start learning from all of you now. smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2019, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Sep 12 2019, 12:47 PM)
No , I also believe in higher spending ... however, TS funds are limited.. to conserve, must reduce spending lor.. then can last longer instead of 20 years only
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Alternatively, the better option would be to create streams of passive income during the retirement phase, instead of living on the reserves cash that we have built.
Of course it takes certain effort, strategies and tactics to have the streams of passive income to be built up.

I am also a learner here, aspire to achieve financial independence. smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ Sep 12 2019, 04:12 PM)
If one does not have to worry about money means they achieved FI? or is there other way to determine if one have achieve FI? sorry newbie question.
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The basic understanding/definition of Financial Independence would be - you have the income/reserve to sustain your desired lifestyle (on your own terms) without the need to work for active income.
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post Sep 12 2019, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(valerie.wen @ Sep 12 2019, 04:38 PM)
Because the rat race is MORE stressful than that.
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Agree on that. In fact what most people want is not huge wealth, but financial independence, being able to have the time to do what they love to do in life.
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post Sep 12 2019, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ Sep 12 2019, 04:49 PM)
Ok *Goes back to work on a bigger nestegg*  sweat.gif
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post Sep 13 2019, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Mijac @ Sep 12 2019, 06:49 PM)
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Good morning fellow friend in the journey towards FI!
Wish to learn from you and grow together, wishing you a great life of happiness, freedom, and fulfillment.
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post Sep 19 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(pinnacle999 @ Sep 17 2019, 06:56 PM)
Finished reading all the posts under this thread. Amazing sharing and very inspiring life stories.

Have just started my journey towards FIRE few years back.

Savings close to 50-70% of net salary. Commitment is quite high for 2 kids and I am the sole breadwinner in the family.

I am sold with the idea of having option to work or not to work after reaching FI.

I will probably not RE but doing some other low stress part time or volunteer work to contribute to society.
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Hello friend, I truly respect your intention of volunteering yourself for societal contribution when you have achieve FI.
I do have the same thinking, when I have achieve Financial Independence then I will retire and fully focus on volunteering works, and contribute to the cause that appeals to me.
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post Sep 19 2019, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 02:20 PM)
Uncontrollable spending is not as easy as it gets condemned. It takes 2 to control the spending. Most of the time, 1 wants control, another wants no control. Imagine a married couple. Eventually, one will have to give way to the other, and unlimited spending it will be, or all hell breaks loose back home.
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This is why getting a common agreement (on financial management topic, and, of course many other important life topics) prior to the marriage is of utmost importance.

It is highly advisable to have the other half that is sharing the common idea on financial management, this is an important factor to keep the marriage happy. smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 02:43 PM)
haha. easier said than done. if cannot agree, split? or verbally agree, but back to unlimited spending after marriage?
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It is advisable to first discuss about this even before getting into a relationship, but I fully agree with you, easier said than done. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 19 2019, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 03:31 PM)
that would give the impression that you are stingy. that's the reason I said easier said than done.

unless happen to find someone with same thinking loh. then no need discuss.
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You are right friend, this kind of conversation and discussion needs to be handled with care.
Yes the best is to marry someone with the same thinking and mindset.
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post Sep 19 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 03:42 PM)
then have to find on forum.lowyat.net already. Haven't come across fe/male outside with such thinking. haha
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Hahaha! Like how you "coin the term".
However, to be impartial and fair, I do know of some girls and ladies whom are truly good at managing their finances, they are frugal, they live within their means, and they learn how to invest, and they are not into branded material things. smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 03:54 PM)
ahhhhh I haven't come across those that reached branded materials yet. I'm at a lower league. people at my league just spend as much as possible only.

see, most people will say, not asking you to spend everything, keep a bit, spend a bit, etc etc. But when they get FIRED (as in, executed aka 處斬) or about to, they start shitting bricks.
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There is nothing fancy about in the league that obsess with branded materials. smile.gif

There are many wealthy folks whom are not into branded materials as well, they live frugal life, they spend wisely, they invest, and most importantly, they use their wealth in a good way - they donate a portion of their wealth to the needy, and to support meaningful charity cause. smile.gif

Meanwhile we are living a frugal life, we shall allocate a portion of of earnings to reward ourselves too sometimes (within our means of course), most importantly is to have a concrete plan, which we are following well from time to time, we keep track from time to time, ensuring that we are well on track.

And very importantly, we must learn to allocate a portion of our income to give to others (parent, charity cause that appeals to you).
What we want in life, we must give to others first.
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post Sep 20 2019, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 10:22 PM)
yalah. if you don't tag along, you'll be the odd one out. not cool. when bad times come, you also the odd one out.

10% is very little. got ask why easier said than done ah? starting pay nowadays is like above 3k rite? if no house to pay, easily can save 1k. if no car to pay, 1.5k also 絕非難事
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Agree with you, with proper and disciplined financial planning, we could certainly save much more than 10% of our income. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 10:37 AM)
I am started to be on top of my financial situations.
And it feels great
If i get to FIRE, great
If not, i will work till 60 which is fine also
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Very happy to see that you have started your journey towards Financial Independence.
Work on disciplining yourself to keep track and follow through your plan, wishing you achieving Financial Independence as per planned, and do share with us your experiences along the way. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 11:32 AM)
Appreciate your advice.
I've just started tracking my expenses.
Learning from Lowyat on investing (ASNB, FD, Stashaway etc etc)
My target is RM20k passive income. Am at RM1,125 passive income currently  sweat.gif
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We are on this journey, encouraging and supporting each other.

Meanwhile, consistent cashflow of RM1,125 passive income is considered a very good and decent beginning for you, I reckon that is rental yield?

Surely you will achieve your RM20k passive income soon.
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Sep 20 2019, 11:30 AM)
10% is nothing la.  I save up to 70% of my income and can FIRE before 40.  Don't buy much luxury stuff, live in a modest home and a typical car, your typical lower middle income neighborhood.  Even tho can afford a bentley with cash.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 20 2019, 12:39 PM)
I feel you there mate. I once commented that we can live a very comfortable life with a monthly spending of RM2,036, and I got bombarded with tens of negative comments saying that it is impossible to even survive with that amount lol. I personally spend only RM1,800 and that amount covers for the lunch and dinner for me and my mom, eating out everyday. So I don't see why not? As Malaysians, we are lucky that there are still cheaper alternatives for eating out and eating right. We must be grateful that our rental rates are lower compared to our neighbor. So I do agree that we are able to save in excess of RM1,000 per month (for those with salary of RM3,000 and above).

The problem with us Malaysians is that we live in a denial syndrome and a very toxic society. Most Malaysians will not accept a new way of live being taught to them. Everything is impossible as if reducing their expenses will mean living in poverty. I also got tired of trying to educate these people lol. I just continue live my live comfortably while still being able to save 60% of my net salary.

P.S. I do not earn a high salary, just earning an average salary of an executive employee.
RM20k in monthly income? That is a bit far-fetched, but it's doable if you have a very profitable business. It's impossible if you are just an ordinary employee.
Assuming a yield of 6% pa, you need RM4mil of savings to achieve that.

I am the same age as you, but am just a little bit ahead of you in passive income. My own target of monthly passive income is just RM5,000. I don't dare to aim too high as I know I am unable to achieve it being just an ordinary employee earning an average income.
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I completely agree with you friend. It is all about the choices that we make that will determine the amount of savings and investment that we have.
We should all learn to live life in our own terms, do not follow the herd.

In the meanwhile, care to share what are the financial vehicles that you deploy to make you the monthly passive income?
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 20 2019, 01:01 PM)
Currently my passive income are only generated through equity investing. Tried and quitted P2P after a year of trial. Have not gone into Roboadvisory or any of the fintech stuff.
I also do not dabble in property investing because many of the properties are over-priced in my opinion. Unless I get a very good deal, I might not even step into property investing because most of it is negative cashflow investment.
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That is nice, equity investment is the source of wealth for many people. You learn about the Stock Market through self-learning or you attend course? smile.gif
Meanwhile I do agree on your point that most of the properties nowadays are over-priced for investment purposes.
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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 02:18 PM)
It’s FD, ASNB combine EPF (lol)
I’m not sure if I’m calculating passive income right lol
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By definition, passive income would mean the cashflow generated by any of your investment vehicles. smile.gif
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 02:19 PM)
Am dreaming hehe
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