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Slash21
post Dec 20 2018, 10:35 AM

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Sorry to change the discussion from experience travelling back to Fi/RE. I'm also starting pretty interested in FI/RE.

Has anyone here achieved or close to achieving FI or FI/RE? If so, what are the investment or return on savings options they chose so far?

Thanks.

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post Dec 20 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(tippman @ Dec 20 2018, 10:47 AM)
There are many investment options available i.e. Stock, ETF, property, bond fund, and etc. it really boiled down to individual preference and what best for them.

Different people have different preferences.
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Thanks for the reply.
But to get highest possible return, which investment vehicle will you recommend?
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post Jan 20 2019, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(PeterSi @ Jan 19 2019, 06:09 PM)
I think that this is very interesting topic for many people in general and I am glad to see it on forum. I am also interested to retire as soon as possible. But with average salary this might not be as soon as I have initially believed.
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Yes it is indeed an interesting topic, I am an avid FI/RE follower as well having read many sites on this.

Saving as much as you can is one point, another would also be trying to find a way to get the highest returns with your savings in investment. It makes a huge difference returning 4%, 10% or 15%... you need a lot less if there is the possibility of getting higher returns. So far I see that value investing is the only way to go... one of the safest, yet research shows it is able to return double digit growth. Anyone here into value investing?

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post Jan 23 2019, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ Jan 23 2019, 03:37 PM)
survive for 100mths only. guess i have only 1 option thats to increase passive
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Generally... for every 50K RM expenses you need per year, you need about 1M. So if you need 100K a year for all of your expenses, then you need about 2M. This is provided your investments return about 10% a year, spending 5% and re-investing the 5% earned. This way, your savings will continue to grow even though you spend 5% a year... again this is a general idea, I think most people will not only save up a large amount and spend it, they have to rely on some form of investment to provide additional returns.

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post Jan 23 2019, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 23 2019, 07:45 PM)
10% every year is hard, but annualize for years, can achieve that.
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Yea it's true, if annualized for years it is definitely achievable. One of the ways could be through value investing, buying undervalued stocks.

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post Feb 14 2019, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Feb 14 2019, 12:50 PM)
I've been saying, FIRE work even better, the further down the income scale you go.
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True.. or alternatively if you can lower your expenses significantly, you can also achieve FI earlier.
Most common way is if your house is worth a lot, sell and downgrade to a cheaper home. Then use the difference to generate more passive income.

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post Feb 15 2019, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Feb 15 2019, 10:40 AM)
In average over the last 12 years, with my salary growing, I put my money into savings at about RM3,000 a month. So in the last 12 years, I went from zero to 600k purely from this savings alone.

p/s: since i reached FI 2 years ago, bought myself a beemer. And yes, I sold the 15 year old Proton biggrin.gif
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Now that's indeed a great achievement. Respect on how you've saved up every precious cent and indeed something to learn from. Generally, you don't need a car if you can get near an LRT.

Indeed the 600k is hard earned cash. I assume you reached FI with 600K...? Do you still have monthly work income or depending on pasive income? If yes, care to share how are you generating your passive income?

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post Feb 15 2019, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Feb 15 2019, 02:40 PM)
Thanks!

No, I reached FI with about 1.5m in savings (the other 900k from flipping properties - this all happened in the past 10 years), and another 500k in EPF.

Waiting for my EPF to reach 1m (currently at about 600k) so I can start withdrawing the dividends. I think I can RE (yes still working) in 5 years time with 3m in total.

My wife is on the same path & progress as me, so household should have 6m.
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Great job bro! The property boom few years ago definitely helped...
When you hit your 3M target, are you looking into FD interest or property rental as a means of passive income?
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post Feb 20 2019, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Feb 20 2019, 04:01 PM)
Thank you for your input.

As per my post, I am still renting the property which I stay in (all I needed was a room), and I rent out the other rooms. This will ensure I pay very minimal amount of rental.
As with calculation, we can see that renting a property is far cheaper than purchasing one at current situation if we choose to live close to our workplace. Therefore I do not see how renting would increase my monthly expenses.
I do not believe in purchasing property for investment in the current conditions. Property price tend to stagnate over the medium term until more certainty that the current property overhang issue is addressed. Until then, we will see the return rate from property to be more or less similar to FD return rate. If that's the case, I am better off paying a couple hundreds in rent and use my extra money to be invested for 5-6% return rate.
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This is definitely true based on current market situation. There's about 30K units of unsold property now. Most of my family members invested in, and own 3-4 properties per person each. So there's already 12 properties owned between only 3 people... loans are still being paid. Which makes rental very low now, it makes a lot of sense to rent.

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post Apr 14 2019, 12:04 PM

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Or stocks at about 10% returns..
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post May 5 2019, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ May 5 2019, 03:53 PM)
There is no need to be proud of one’s achievements. One should instead be grateful. Think about it... if you are born with lesser than normal IQ... would you have achieved what you have achieved? Are you lucky to be of at least average IQ... you bet ...
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Nice quote...
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post Jun 28 2020, 11:16 PM

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Hi All,

I am curious, for most of you who already achieved FIRE, how are you maintaining your assets. FD, stocks, unit trust, ponzi scheme?

What is the standard of ROI per year for your investments, 3%, 4%?

Thanks.

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post Jun 29 2020, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jun 29 2020, 12:09 AM)
Ponzi scheme for FI/RE folks ?
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Just kidding... 😬
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post Jun 29 2020, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 29 2020, 10:44 AM)
I'm averaging 4 - 5%, and to be honest, I'm already very pleased with that, given the climate we're presently in at the moment.
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May I know what your portfolio consist of? Shares, property, bonds etc? Thanks

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