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SUSLiamness
post Jun 19 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(mmweric @ Jun 19 2020, 02:40 PM)
I agree with you if you already have high assets and a high income no reason to take any debt.  If you don't have anything sometimes you might have to take
some risk and debt especially if you want to open a business.
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i would absolutely not go into debt to open a business..

Maybe once your business is more established, and you need to expand, sure.. take a loan.

But to open up a business & take on debt is extremely risky, especially when you are not guaranteed to make profits or even survive past the 2nd year of business.

Debt should only be used on almost risk free investments, like property (in good locations and you've done your research). Infact, I can't think of any other type of investments where you should go into debt..

This post has been edited by Liamness: Jun 19 2020, 03:04 PM
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post Jun 30 2020, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(mmweric @ Jun 30 2020, 03:07 PM)
Most people who start a business when they are young have no choice but to borrow from friends and relatives.  Small amounts maybe like 30k for a small business.  If you need larger amounts then you would need investors. 

I have been an investor in businesses before and I have run business for other people with P&L responsibility.  My observation why people fail is because people open a business which they are not familiar with.  Those which I have seen successful consist of people who have already about 8 to 15 years experience in a similar industry, Sales and mkt experience, P&L responsibility and people management skills.

As most people do not have the relevant skills it is not surprising 90% of businesses fail.

If you do have the experience then it makes sense to borrow as normally you wouldn't open the business unless you already had a contract to sustain your cashflow but you only need to borrow after you get the contract as a bridging loan to perhaps run the project as distributors will not give you 100% credit the first time you do business with them even if they have been friends with you for like 20 years.
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i can agree with this as I have also dabbled in starting up a business in my industry for a year. but decided it was too much work and quit too.

I had three good paying customers before i even hired workers too..

but at the end, business start up are mostly bottom of the food chain. You will get bullied and pushed around by the bigger guys for years and years. Also, poor paymasters and constant stress in paying your workers with no money coming in, means you are always working on edge and doing unhealthy things.

Not easy being a businessman.

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