Hello sifus,
I'm newbie in stocks.
I'm seeking to buy some gold stock/etf, kindly pls share what is easiest n cheapest funf to participate. I Malaysian.
Thank you.
FI/RE - Financial Independence / Retire Early, Share your experience
FI/RE - Financial Independence / Retire Early, Share your experience
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Nov 3 2019, 08:43 PM
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Hello sifus,
I'm newbie in stocks. I'm seeking to buy some gold stock/etf, kindly pls share what is easiest n cheapest funf to participate. I Malaysian. Thank you. |
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Nov 4 2019, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(l4nc3k @ Nov 4 2019, 08:36 AM) First of all I think you need to read more about the difference between ETF, funds, gold investments. A simple google will do that.. Thank you much. Then once you identify what instruments they actually are, here are some threads within LYN you can refer to: For ETF: - Roboadvisor - StashAway - Roboadvisor - myTHEO - Do It Yourself (DIY) Style For funds, normally FundSuperMart is discussed here, but there some alternatives like Philips Mutual, Public Mutual, CIMB. - FundSuperMart (FSM) Also might be beneficial to ask in respective threads if you have any queries instead of posting in this FI/RE thread I wanted to get best advise, as this FI/RE are all financial successful. |
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Nov 4 2019, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Nov 4 2019, 10:38 AM) A financially successful person doesn't necessarily means he is wise in investing his money. It is more likely that he became wealthy from his earnings and income from his occupation and profession. Thank you for your perspective. I already concluded forumers in the lowyat asnb, ut, FI/Re, already million-million in networth. Whether they achieve retire, better profession, etc... Already big advantage over people like myself. So, no problem for me to listen to anyone of them advice. Your valuable input included, although wud be nicer if you can share which fund to invest in gold. Thank you again.Secondly, those who had already retired early doesn't necessarily means they are more financially successful than others... just that they retired early because they already have enough money and enough of the rat race. |
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Nov 6 2019, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 6 2019, 12:07 AM) For one alternative on gold investment, u can check my thread on this: Thank you, Bro Cubalagi, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4473756 To buy, u can open a stockbroking account with these guys, which is one of the lowest cost brokerage house in Malaysia: https://www.mplusonline.com.my/macsecos/index.asp With the account, u can also start investing in dividend stocks n reits for passive income, so u r not limited to just Gold which doesn't generate any dividend/interest. Read the thread. Very informative. |
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Nov 17 2019, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 17 2019, 07:35 PM) do you guys sell stocks to take profit, or just buy dividend stock?? Sifu, you oledi inside ASNB thread, why come here?what if the stock price doesn't appreciate after dividend has been distributed? You shud know ASNB (ASM1) is safest investment. I very confused lah. All the young, makan gaji people, retirees, thinking of FI/RE??? With food inflation n low fd interest rates, no free education n need many A's to enter public U, unless you Bumi, etc,... pls don't play-play with your family n children's future. Well, for those really unlucky - with companies downsizing as so sure Y2020 recession... maybe, FI/RE will come faster. Frightening! Sorry for the dark msg. Now is the time to work hard n hold more tasks n responsibilities, n don't give mgmt perception you into FI/RE.... Nanti really get Fired. If got spare money... ASM1 or any other ASNB FP funds. |
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Nov 19 2019, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 19 2019, 01:49 AM) Yes, I am the one as bolded in the above. Money is not everything,... after achieving money, other wants and needs will come long in life. Sifu Hansel, Very impressive. How to qualify as bank private client? So, are you believe in the FI/Re stuff, or still in shares or asnb? Thank you for sharing. What advise to share with us wanna be wealthy ambitions? |
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Nov 20 2019, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 20 2019, 10:18 AM) To qualify for bank private client need >$3m aum. According to wealth report, about 0.2% of adults in this country have >$1m net worth. Hence, less than 0.1% of adults in this country could become bank private client. Wow, another HNWI in this thread. Very important to learn from sifu Hansel n Icemanfx. Understand how these successful people think n do. Achieve 10% of them amount, also new wealth milestone. |
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Nov 20 2019, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 20 2019, 12:50 PM) I believe bank clients are less than the actual number of ppl who have assets more than 3mil. But, I think HNWI like sifu Hansel has million-million in bank because of using their stock brokerage. Otherwise, I agree with other seniors, money in the bank - so low interest.I know there are ppl who don't trust bank employees so they are not part of the private clients (they don't even apply to be premier customers), and some bought properties instead of just having cash in banks. However, Sifu Hansel might have million-"million everywhere, hence the Maslow self actualization stage of being Private Client. Free makan, Prestige, Confidentiality, etc. Syabas!!! Have to admit we all different levels of needs lah. |
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Nov 20 2019, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 20 2019, 01:55 PM) not to mention those who have millions in Amanah saham.... Ya, Ya... Cannot agree more, I see the sifus n many Snr from asnb thread. Hentam $30k/shot.they may not be bank private clients but still have millions! Sometimes, feel envy... But learn to accept n learn from them. But, unlikely any of them sifu really subscribe to FI/RE. I think the movie... For most Malaysians, Greed is Good!! FI/RE is more of a angmoh lifestyle??!!! Oops reached my daily msg quota liao. Bye! |
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Nov 20 2019, 04:23 PM
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[/quote] OK, maybe I propose change gears on this topic. I have been very obsessed reading many threads hunting the Lowyat Super Financial Gurus. I dunno how to set voting.... But, after many weeks reading nightly, I easily identify potential super financial people, very impressive in financial knowledge n likely high networth, in my mind they are (not necessary in order).... Master Sifu Ramjade, MUM, Hansel. Others? However, Ms Hansel msg above too 'cheem' (cryotic), he lost me liao. I urge the other readers to cast their votes... We are here to learn n will do it respectfully. By reading their posts, we can learn many things. Don't feel offended if I didn't include your call signs. My bad!!! Thank you. |
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Nov 20 2019, 04:25 PM
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[quote=Dd2318,Nov 20 2019, 04:23 PM]
[/quote] OK, maybe I propose change gears on this topic. I have been very obsessed reading many threads hunting the Lowyat Super Financial Gurus. I dunno how to set voting.... But, after many weeks reading nightly, I easily identify potential super financial people, very impressive in financial knowledge n likely high networth, in my mind they are (not necessary in order).... Master Sifu Ramjade, MUM, Hansel. Others? However, Master Sifu Hansel msg above too 'cheem' (cryptic), he lost me liao. I urge the other readers to cast their votes... We are here to learn n will do it respectfully. By reading their posts, we can learn many things. Don't feel offended if I didn't include your call signs. My bad!!! Thank you. [/quote] Sorry ah Ms Hansel = Master Sifu Hansel. This post has been edited by Dd2318: Nov 20 2019, 04:26 PM |
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Nov 20 2019, 07:19 PM
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I'm curious,... bronkos,... how are you able to estimate that I am not loaded from the my statements in the above ? I just thought of asking you this.
I have always carried the above thinking whenever I want to make money,... pls elaborate for me. Perhaps I missed something here,... [/quote] The discussion really very deep liao. Just wanted to understand meaning of 'loaded' in the context. Loaded = lots of money? Loaded = as in gearing (taking loans to expand investment) ? Sorry for interruption, pls continue.... Maybe, just make it easier, what is the net worth? If million-million, then surely Master Sifu Hansel! |
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Nov 20 2019, 07:29 PM
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[/quote] I think he meant loaded means unlimited amt,... but not too sure-lar,... some UNHWI's I spoke with meant loaded like that-lar,... Well,... Jho Low is loaded,.. ex-PM is loaded,... these are very good egs. However,... I think I wouldn't want to employ their tactics of making money-lar,... [/quote] Oh! I see. No need to convince people. Master Sifu generously share financial phylosophy. I for one believe Master Sifu very 'loaded'...and I mean the proper way! Thank you n sorry for interrupting. Better than reading financial books n free advice. Where rest of Master Sifu Ramjade n MUM? |
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Nov 20 2019, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 20 2019, 09:19 PM) Just to add: Bro, people like me monthly $5k with family... Work till die lah. No chance to FI/RE. If you live well below ur means, doesnt matter how much you earn you are on a right track for ur long term FIRE target. Doesnt matter even if u earn below 5k or below 10k. I experience myself and i seen others...yeah we talk about being FIRE but most of us cant resist the tempting thought of that hot ‘bmws, mercs, audis or ducatis’ everytime we just started to gain more and accumulate more. Kwsp where got enuf to last... Most of my category, hope children chip $. FI/RE will be last in my mind. I hope to be healthy n productive leh, work till my twilight years or drop dead. At least family can claim Socso. |
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Nov 21 2019, 08:56 AM
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Nov 21 2019, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Nov 21 2019, 09:46 AM) Good morning my friend, be always hopeful in life. Tring hard but not to be miser or ruthless. Your career will grow and salary package will improved, at the same time living a frugal life, learn how to invest, pick the investment that appeals to you risk appetite. Wishing you a great life ahead. This forumer is a kind soul n will accumulate positive karma. |
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Nov 21 2019, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 21 2019, 01:43 PM) In the last 30+ years, myr depreciated against USD, sgd, jpy, rmb, thb, etc. Given current market sentiment, myr is likely to continue on the down trend. Sifu Icemanfx, you still an Economics undergrad, or, already working n swimming with investment?If one work as expat in middle East, Cambodia, Burma, Singapore, hk, etc could fi/re without much difficulty. Which quite a few do. Only those find comfort in coconut shell find the world is the coconut shell. It is meaningless to judge low or high income based on currency denomination. a Maggi Mee may cost x cents, few bath, hundreds rupiah, thousands rial or millions dollars. In practice, one rationalized to USD or myr for comparison. I mean it respectfully, as I m trying to understand as forumers are of diff demographics, risk aversion, etc. People like myself, no hope liao. Thankful to be healthy, working, etc... But nothing much to look forward to financially. But, the things u all describe is like moon n stars leh. Malaysia OK place to stay mah. Why forumers complain? My uncle last week go KL GH, got this abdominal artery anuresym... We cannot afford mah, reference letter, n only KL can do Ops n hospital stay rm211. I think if in Singapore, my uncle already cover white cloth liao. |
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Nov 21 2019, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 21 2019, 02:32 PM) Ahhh! Got you. Thank you again.So for my category type of people how to FI/RE? If really no chance. I can quit this thread... As till now, no clear actionable recommendations. |
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Nov 21 2019, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 21 2019, 03:28 PM) bro, from what i've been reading, U already gave up in your earlier post. please forgive me if i'm mistaken. FIND YOUR REASON(s) to NEED FI or FI/RE, else no point. My wealthy Mgr advised, the FI/RE thread is way-way up my league. Told me to stop following completely. I shud just continue my ASNB or FD thread. Since relatively easy to invest few hundred monthly n more to my immediate needs. I agree. Thank bros all... Good time spent here. At least next time I know where to look next. |
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Nov 22 2019, 10:00 AM) Everyone see your figures went speechless already. Yet, you still have some doubt whether enough or not? More than enough la, especially with no kids. Without kids, your budget is going to be very flexible . In the very very very unlikely event that u run low on funds , can always down your standard of living a notch ...btw, no kids is by choice or what? And, I think you need to consider how flexible is the part time hours in Australia ... part time still “block out” a lot of time ...like if u work 2 hours every alternate days, can u take extended breaks for weeks or months few times a year for holidays? Otherwise , u r like working full time , not retired... Hmm, I wud think most people become doctors to nobly serve society till a ripe ol age. Well, maybe not all.If really stressed out n need a break, maybe shud take upcountry catfishing or net-tralling (dun know spelling)... Very relaxing! |
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