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icemanfx
post Jun 14 2020, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 14 2020, 12:59 AM)
Ah, erm, ok. Too sophisticated for me. Good luck to him and his followers though smile.gif - fortune favors the brave.
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post Jun 14 2020, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 14 2020, 02:56 PM)
Less than 1% of M’sians in US$1m wealth bracket (0.2% of adults M'sians)
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/10/22/...wealth-bracket/
and yet he is paying about 63% of that amount to Income tax for income 2019 year....(an earlier glimpse of the image posted)

sad.gif just try not to calculate that portion in % terms would make one not so envious or feel bad about that high of a bench mark to hit

just aim for being apart of the 3.7% of M'sians
as 3.7% was placed in the US$100,000 to US$1 million wealth band
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Also implying 96% of k/tards opinion is either syok sendiri or unrealistic.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 14 2020, 03:42 PM
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post Jun 19 2020, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 19 2020, 01:34 AM)
Others may have a different viewpoint - I know a lot of gurus and experts here will say that the power of leverage should have been employed, and our money should have been made to work harder for us to generate higher returns, rather than to be used to pay off any loans. And I believe that is also a valid argument.
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post Jun 19 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(mmweric @ Jun 19 2020, 02:40 PM)
I agree with you if you already have high assets and a high income no reason to take any debt.  If you don't have anything sometimes you might have to take
some risk and debt especially if you want to open a business.
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Many neglected leverage incur cost and debts is negative of wealth.

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post Jun 19 2020, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jun 19 2020, 03:01 PM)
i would absolutely not go into debt to open a business..

Maybe once your business is more established, and you need to expand, sure.. take a loan.

But to open up a business & take on debt is extremely risky, especially when you are not guaranteed to make profits or even survive past the 2nd year of business.

Debt should only be used on almost risk free investments, like property (in good locations and you've done your research). Infact, I can't think of any other type of investments where you should go into debt..
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About 90% of new businesses fail in first 3 years.

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post Jun 20 2020, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(datolee32 @ Jun 19 2020, 07:08 PM)
Thank you for your advise. By looking the house loan, for example interest of 3.5% VS investment return lets say 4-5% pa, may I know is it good to have early loan settlement or use the extra cash in the investment?
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Those have, mostly will settle loan first; those have not, prefer to invest.

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post Jun 20 2020, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Jun 20 2020, 10:19 AM)
Same. Plus, whatever say 100k value is today, it’s ‘value’ is much less 30 years later. So I delay paying off debt/loan as much as I can as long as the above principle remains true.

I’m all about growing $$$ rather than paying loan/debt.
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jun 20 2020, 10:57 AM)
I have this mindset that loans taken, an paid longer term will be more beneficial. Cause the value if money in the future is lower. And if inflation picks up, thou the dollar amount seams a lot. Value might be the same.
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Principle sum may be devalued by inflation but loan interest rate is normally higher than inflation rate. Extended loan tenure may encounter economic uncertainty e.g recession which heighten default risks.

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post Jul 22 2020, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jul 22 2020, 09:35 AM)
Do you have a hobby? You'll need one to make sure you're suitably occupied upon retirement!
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What do you plan to do in sydney? golf, fishing, surfing?
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post Jul 22 2020, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jul 22 2020, 12:37 PM)
Drive bro, I want open roads.
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