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Win Win Inspiration
post Sep 19 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 03:54 PM)
ahhhhh I haven't come across those that reached branded materials yet. I'm at a lower league. people at my league just spend as much as possible only.

see, most people will say, not asking you to spend everything, keep a bit, spend a bit, etc etc. But when they get FIRED (as in, executed aka 處斬) or about to, they start shitting bricks.
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There is nothing fancy about in the league that obsess with branded materials. smile.gif

There are many wealthy folks whom are not into branded materials as well, they live frugal life, they spend wisely, they invest, and most importantly, they use their wealth in a good way - they donate a portion of their wealth to the needy, and to support meaningful charity cause. smile.gif

Meanwhile we are living a frugal life, we shall allocate a portion of of earnings to reward ourselves too sometimes (within our means of course), most importantly is to have a concrete plan, which we are following well from time to time, we keep track from time to time, ensuring that we are well on track.

And very importantly, we must learn to allocate a portion of our income to give to others (parent, charity cause that appeals to you).
What we want in life, we must give to others first.
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post Sep 19 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Sep 19 2019, 03:49 PM)
Hahaha! Like how you "coin the term".
However, to be impartial and fair, I do know of some girls and ladies whom are truly good at managing their finances, they are frugal, they live within their means, and they learn how to invest, and they are not into branded material things. smile.gif
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So lucky. Still can met those that have similar mindset.

QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 03:54 PM)
ahhhhh I haven't come across those that reached branded materials yet. I'm at a lower league. people at my league just spend as much as possible only.

see, most people will say, not asking you to spend everything, keep a bit, spend a bit, etc etc. But when they get FIRED (as in, executed aka 處斬) or about to, they start shitting bricks.
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Yup. Agree with you.

Recently went to a gathering with sec school classmates. I just randomly say we have to save at least 10% (wanted to say more but I think it's quite impossible for most) of our income since epf already helped us with 20%+. One dude just reply with "it's easier to say than done"

Well, if we spend less on the fancy milk tea and luxury hotpot then I think its possible. In fact, can save even more than 10%. (unless salary 5 to 6 figures)

We Malaysian mostly are earning a third world country income and living a first world country lifestyle.
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post Sep 19 2019, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ Sep 19 2019, 04:44 PM)
Recently went to a gathering with sec school classmates. I just randomly say we have to save at least 10% (wanted to say more but I think it's quite impossible for most) of our income since epf already helped us with 20%+. One dude just reply with "it's easier to say than done"

Well, if we spend less on the fancy milk tea and luxury hotpot then I think its possible. In fact, can save even more than 10%. (unless salary 5 to 6 figures)

We Malaysian mostly are earning a third world country income and living a first world country lifestyle.
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yalah. if you don't tag along, you'll be the odd one out. not cool. when bad times come, you also the odd one out.

10% is very little. got ask why easier said than done ah? starting pay nowadays is like above 3k rite? if no house to pay, easily can save 1k. if no car to pay, 1.5k also 絕非難事
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 10:22 PM)
yalah. if you don't tag along, you'll be the odd one out. not cool. when bad times come, you also the odd one out.

10% is very little. got ask why easier said than done ah? starting pay nowadays is like above 3k rite? if no house to pay, easily can save 1k. if no car to pay, 1.5k also 絕非難事
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Didn't really continue the topic since he replied me with "your salary is high, that's why can save more". smile.gif

But i do agree with you, if no commitment then 1.5 sure no problem. If low living cost area can save more too (but income will proportionally low too normally)
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post Sep 20 2019, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ Sep 19 2019, 10:54 PM)
Didn't really continue the topic since he replied me with "your salary is high, that's why can save more".  smile.gif

But i do agree with you, if no commitment then 1.5 sure no problem. If low living cost area can save more too (but income will proportionally low too normally)
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Lifestyle inflation is a big problem.
That's why I make friends with fellow workers, take a (look at their food and lodging).
You will feel so appreciative of what you have now.
Then you don't feel it's a burden to skip fast food etc
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post Sep 20 2019, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 10:22 PM)
yalah. if you don't tag along, you'll be the odd one out. not cool. when bad times come, you also the odd one out.

10% is very little. got ask why easier said than done ah? starting pay nowadays is like above 3k rite? if no house to pay, easily can save 1k. if no car to pay, 1.5k also 絕非難事
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Agree with you, with proper and disciplined financial planning, we could certainly save much more than 10% of our income. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 10:37 AM

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I am started to be on top of my financial situations.
And it feels great
If i get to FIRE, great
If not, i will work till 60 which is fine also
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post Sep 20 2019, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 10:37 AM)
I am started to be on top of my financial situations.
And it feels great
If i get to FIRE, great
If not, i will work till 60 which is fine also
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RE is just optional
If u love your job or love working in general, you can always work.
FI is wat you should focus smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 10:37 AM)
I am started to be on top of my financial situations.
And it feels great
If i get to FIRE, great
If not, i will work till 60 which is fine also
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Very happy to see that you have started your journey towards Financial Independence.
Work on disciplining yourself to keep track and follow through your plan, wishing you achieving Financial Independence as per planned, and do share with us your experiences along the way. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:30 AM

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10% is nothing la. I save up to 70% of my income and can FIRE before 40. Don't buy much luxury stuff, live in a modest home and a typical car, your typical lower middle income neighborhood. Even tho can afford a bentley with cash. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Singh_Kalan: Sep 20 2019, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Sep 20 2019, 11:28 AM)
Very happy to see that you have started your journey towards Financial Independence.
Work on disciplining yourself to keep track and follow through your plan, wishing you achieving Financial Independence as per planned, and do share with us your experiences along the way. smile.gif
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Appreciate your advice.
I've just started tracking my expenses.
Learning from Lowyat on investing (ASNB, FD, Stashaway etc etc)
My target is RM20k passive income. Am at RM1,125 passive income currently sweat.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Sep 20 2019, 11:30 AM)
10% is nothing la.  I save up to 70% of my income and can FIRE before 40.
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Lucky guy haha
Married with kids?
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 11:32 AM)
Appreciate your advice.
I've just started tracking my expenses.
Learning from Lowyat on investing (ASNB, FD, Stashaway etc etc)
My target is RM20k passive income. Am at RM1,125 passive income currently  sweat.gif
Age 34
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Don't mention smile.gif
We are on this journey, encouraging and supporting each other.

Meanwhile, consistent cashflow of RM1,125 passive income is considered a very good and decent beginning for you, I reckon that is rental yield?

Surely you will achieve your RM20k passive income soon.
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Sep 20 2019, 11:30 AM)
10% is nothing la.  I save up to 70% of my income and can FIRE before 40.  Don't buy much luxury stuff, live in a modest home and a typical car, your typical lower middle income neighborhood.  Even tho can afford a bentley with cash.  tongue.gif
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Living a simple and frugal life is good smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:41 AM

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just remembered this post from another thread..
maybe it can provides some alignment on this frugality thing......
just turn on the volume of your speaker...

QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 30 2019, 11:53 AM)
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I found this nice and meaning full (at least to me) song after watching House M.D last episode.

Guy Lombardo -- Enjoy Yourself, It's Later Than You Think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFxjnUPRwx4

nicely tuned and meaningful lyric....

You work and work for years and years, you're always on the go
You never take a minute off, too busy makin' dough
Someday you say, you'll have your fun, when you're a millionaire
Imagine all the fun you'll have in your old rockin' chair

Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think
Enjoy yourself, while you're still in the pink
The years go by, as quickly as a wink
Enjoy yourself, enjoy yourself, it's later than you think

You're gonna take that ocean trip, no matter come what may
You've got your reservations made, but you just can't get away
Next year for sure, you'll see the world, you'll really get around
But how far can you travel when you're six feet underground?

Your heart of hearts, your dream of dreams, your ravishing brunette
She's left you and she's now become somebody else's pet
Lay down that gun, don't try my friend to reach the great beyond
You'll have more fun by reaching for a redhead or a blond

Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think
Enjoy yourself, while you're still in the pink
The years go by, as quickly as a wink
Enjoy yourself, enjoy yourself, it's later than you think

You never go to night clubs and you just don't care to dance
You don't have time for silly things like moonlight and romance
You only think of dollar bills tied neatly in a stack
But when you kiss a dollar bill, it doesn't kiss you back

Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think
Enjoy yourself, while you're still in the pink
The years go by, as quickly as a wink
Enjoy yourself, enjoy yourself, it's later than you think

well, sing it as we wait for the storm to come and pass  whistling.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 11:32 AM)
Appreciate your advice.
I've just started tracking my expenses.
Learning from Lowyat on investing (ASNB, FD, Stashaway etc etc)
My target is RM20k passive income. Am at RM1,125 passive income currently  sweat.gif
Age 34
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That's good.. but 20k a month hard
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post Sep 20 2019, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ Sep 19 2019, 04:44 PM)
So lucky. Still can met those that have similar mindset.
Yup. Agree with you.

Recently went to a gathering with sec school classmates. I just randomly say we have to save at least 10% (wanted to say more but I think it's quite impossible for most) of our income since epf already helped us with 20%+. One dude just reply with "it's easier to say than done"

Well, if we spend less on the fancy milk tea and luxury hotpot then I think its possible. In fact, can save even more than 10%. (unless salary 5 to 6 figures)

We Malaysian mostly are earning a third world country income and living a first world country lifestyle.
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I feel you there mate. I once commented that we can live a very comfortable life with a monthly spending of RM2,036, and I got bombarded with tens of negative comments saying that it is impossible to even survive with that amount lol. I personally spend only RM1,800 and that amount covers for the lunch and dinner for me and my mom, eating out everyday. So I don't see why not? As Malaysians, we are lucky that there are still cheaper alternatives for eating out and eating right. We must be grateful that our rental rates are lower compared to our neighbor. So I do agree that we are able to save in excess of RM1,000 per month (for those with salary of RM3,000 and above).

The problem with us Malaysians is that we live in a denial syndrome and a very toxic society. Most Malaysians will not accept a new way of live being taught to them. Everything is impossible as if reducing their expenses will mean living in poverty. I also got tired of trying to educate these people lol. I just continue live my live comfortably while still being able to save 60% of my net salary.

P.S. I do not earn a high salary, just earning an average salary of an executive employee.

QUOTE(taiping... @ Sep 20 2019, 11:32 AM)
Appreciate your advice.
I've just started tracking my expenses.
Learning from Lowyat on investing (ASNB, FD, Stashaway etc etc)
My target is RM20k passive income. Am at RM1,125 passive income currently  sweat.gif
Age 34
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RM20k in monthly income? That is a bit far-fetched, but it's doable if you have a very profitable business. It's impossible if you are just an ordinary employee.
Assuming a yield of 6% pa, you need RM4mil of savings to achieve that.

I am the same age as you, but am just a little bit ahead of you in passive income. My own target of monthly passive income is just RM5,000. I don't dare to aim too high as I know I am unable to achieve it being just an ordinary employee earning an average income.
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post Sep 20 2019, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 20 2019, 12:39 PM)
I feel you there mate. I once commented that we can live a very comfortable life with a monthly spending of RM2,036, and I got bombarded with tens of negative comments saying that it is impossible to even survive with that amount lol. I personally spend only RM1,800 and that amount covers for the lunch and dinner for me and my mom, eating out everyday. So I don't see why not? As Malaysians, we are lucky that there are still cheaper alternatives for eating out and eating right. We must be grateful that our rental rates are lower compared to our neighbor. So I do agree that we are able to save in excess of RM1,000 per month (for those with salary of RM3,000 and above).

The problem with us Malaysians is that we live in a denial syndrome and a very toxic society. Most Malaysians will not accept a new way of live being taught to them. Everything is impossible as if reducing their expenses will mean living in poverty. I also got tired of trying to educate these people lol. I just continue live my live comfortably while still being able to save 60% of my net salary.

P.S. I do not earn a high salary, just earning an average salary of an executive employee.
RM20k in monthly income? That is a bit far-fetched, but it's doable if you have a very profitable business. It's impossible if you are just an ordinary employee.
Assuming a yield of 6% pa, you need RM4mil of savings to achieve that.

I am the same age as you, but am just a little bit ahead of you in passive income. My own target of monthly passive income is just RM5,000. I don't dare to aim too high as I know I am unable to achieve it being just an ordinary employee earning an average income.
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I completely agree with you friend. It is all about the choices that we make that will determine the amount of savings and investment that we have.
We should all learn to live life in our own terms, do not follow the herd.

In the meanwhile, care to share what are the financial vehicles that you deploy to make you the monthly passive income?
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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Sep 20 2019, 12:50 PM)
I completely agree with you friend. It is all about the choices that we make that will determine the amount of savings and investment that we have.
We should all learn to live life in our own terms, do not follow the herd.

In the meanwhile, care to share what are the financial vehicles that you deploy to make you the monthly passive income?
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Currently my passive income are only generated through equity investing. Tried and quitted P2P after a year of trial. Have not gone into Roboadvisory or any of the fintech stuff.
I also do not dabble in property investing because many of the properties are over-priced in my opinion. Unless I get a very good deal, I might not even step into property investing because most of it is negative cashflow investment.
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 20 2019, 01:01 PM)
Currently my passive income are only generated through equity investing. Tried and quitted P2P after a year of trial. Have not gone into Roboadvisory or any of the fintech stuff.
I also do not dabble in property investing because many of the properties are over-priced in my opinion. Unless I get a very good deal, I might not even step into property investing because most of it is negative cashflow investment.
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That is nice, equity investment is the source of wealth for many people. You learn about the Stock Market through self-learning or you attend course? smile.gif
Meanwhile I do agree on your point that most of the properties nowadays are over-priced for investment purposes.

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