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TechSuper
post Jul 2 2018, 11:33 AM

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gratz on v26.

yesterday morning while having sent my car to car wash, saw those formations flying. damn they were fast. MKM, Bug and Hawk + Herc and Atlas and oso Tupai and Nuris.

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post Nov 23 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 14 2018, 05:02 PM)
From radar PPI, ships were navigating closer to the west side of that channel.... could be shallow on that part, instead.....she can choose to reduce speed or stop.
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shitty watchkeeping, i would say. i dunno about man-o-war, but on board red ensign, even when there only 5 or less on the bridge, they still manage to keep their situational awareness at their best; especially when transiting restricted waters.
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post Nov 30 2018, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 29 2018, 07:47 PM)
So Shinsen and that talk about f-22 hybrid thingy confirm gg?

Kesian the pilots will get intimidated by big bad PLA sukhois
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They scrapped ShinSin.

https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/japans-scra...th-fighter-jet/

Japan’s Ministry of Defense Acquisition Technology & Logistics Agency (ATLA) is expected to discontinue work on a domestically designed fifth-generation fighter jet due to budgetary concerns and critical capacity shortages in the country’s military aircraft industry, The Asahi Shimbun newspaper reports on March 5.

Japan’s Ministry of Defense will purportedly not seek funds for the development of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries’ experimental fifth-generation fighter technology demonstrator X-2 “Shinshin” (formerly the ATD-X) when requests by agencies and ministries are compiled this summer for the fiscal 2019 defense budget.

As of this writing, Japan’s MoD has not publicly commented on the March 5 report.
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post Jan 31 2019, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(agent sawyer @ Jan 29 2019, 09:21 AM)
Other people buy 12m

We buy 30m

Then wonder why defence budget not enough
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you didn't factor in R&D cost. after certain number of vehicles sold to end user, only they manage to break even. after that number, they make money. that's the COST OF SELF RELIANCE, or "Juche" as Best Korea would say.
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post Jan 31 2019, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(agent sawyer @ Jan 31 2019, 11:49 AM)
That's part of my point

If we're in any way serious about defence, we should have bought the best value for money off the shelf and never mind if it's assembled overseas

Fact is we're not. Hence paying extra for middlemen, R&D, local assembly, so-called TT, inferior economics of scale, etc
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agreed. but remember, by buying overseas system, they bound to put pre-conditions. remember UK n US gov impose sanctions to Indonesia? they can't buy spares from these 2 countries, hence they can't fly Hawks and F16 when those planes were needed to put down GAM.
Iran bought Tomcats, but after the revolution, they can't fly those Cats because US sanctioned Iran. it was only recently, a few years back, after they reverse engineer those Cats parts, those Cats can fly again.
Heck, reverse engineering is part of R&D.
China started off by buying their military wares, then licence-production, then reverse-engineer those licence-produced wares, and only after that they manage to rely on themselves. Yet, they have yet to manage to master single crystal turbine blade production which is vital to turbofan engine production.
R&D is expensive but it is priceless.
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post Mar 26 2019, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 25 2019, 04:13 PM)
msia should just sell it off to murica too?  hmm.gif

Big Secret No More: America Purchased 21 Lethal Russian MiG-29 Fighters

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One test pilot concluded that the Fulcrum’s “abilities equals and sometimes even exceeds those of the F-15 and F-16 jets. The aircraft is highly maneuverable, and its engines provide higher weight to thrust ratio. Our pilots must be careful with this aircraft in air combat. Flown by a well trained professional, it is a worthy opponent.”

When the Soviet Union collapsed in late 1991, the newly independent states within its former domain inherited enormous stockpiles of weapons the Red Army left behind.

One of the most interesting cases involved the air force of the tiny former Soviet republic of Moldova. The new republic’s inventory consisted of 34 MiG-29 Fulcrums, eight Mi-8 Hip helicopters and a handful of transport aircraft — a sizeable force for such a small state. To put Moldova’s size into perspective, the country’s population is smaller than the metro area of Portland, Oregon.

Moldova couldn’t afford to maintain the fleet and, to make matters worse, was in a deep recession. Meanwhile, the United States feared Moldova would sell the MiG-29s to Iran, which could use them to bolster its own fleet of Fulcrums. Washington was also wary that Moldova might pass the technology to Iran’s rivals since the fleet included 14 MiG-29C variants configured to deliver nuclear weapons.

So in 1997, the United States deployed its most powerful tool to get the MiG-29s for itself. That tool … was money. Washington bought 21 of the MiG-29s — including 14 C models , one B model and six A models — and flew them in pieces on C-17 transport planes to Dayton, Ohio.

Not only was purchasing the jets a good way of ensuring they did not end up in Tehran’s hands, it gave Washington an opportunity to inspect one of the most sophisticated Soviet jets ever built. In exchange, Moldova received $40 million in humanitarian assistance, some army trucks and other non-lethal equipment.

Moldova sold the rest of its air force to Eritrea and Yemen. The newly American MiG-29s would largely disappear into a maze of testing squadrons, intelligence centers and U.S. Air Force “ exploitation facilities ,” according to Air & Space Magazine .

The MiG-29 was a maneuverable, deadly aircraft for its time. Its Archer AA-11 missiles were sophisticated for the 1990s because of their ability to lock targets with a helmet-mounted cueing system at greater angles away from the jet’s nose than comparable American fighters. However, this advantage would collapse when the Pentagon introduced the AIM-9X missile in 2003 and associated helmet-mounted displays.


The Fulcrum further lacked the avionics and information management systems to tell the pilot what was going on outside the airplane, or where they were. A pilot literally had to look at paper maps to figure out their location. In general, the MiG-29 is a fine airplane engineering wise, but increasingly obsolete for aerial warfare in the 21st century without upgrades.

Incidentally, 1997 was the same year that another country outside the former Soviet bloc obtained MiG-29s. That country was Israel, which loaned three single-seat Fulcrums for a couple of weeks from an undisclosed Eastern European country.


Given that the MiG-29 was the most advanced jet fighter Russia ever gave to its Arab clients — Iraq and later Syria — the Israelis doubtlessly welcomed an opportunity to test and evaluate it themselves.

Israeli pilots who tested out the aircraft were quite impressed . While different from the standard American-made jets they were accustomed to, they reported that the MiG-29 was easy to fly. Its computers for enabling landing if the pilot experienced difficulty were quite noteworthy.

This is due to the fact that this system “stabilizes the jet in case the pilot is affected by vertigo disease, and loses his orientation in space,” IAF Magazine noted. “Such systems do not exist in western aircraft, counting on the pilot to handle such situations independently.”

One test pilot concluded that the Fulcrum’s “abilities equals and sometimes even exceeds those of the F-15 and F-16 jets. The aircraft is highly maneuverable, and its engines provide higher weight to thrust ratio. Our pilots must be careful with this aircraft in air combat. Flown by a well trained professional, it is a worthy opponent.”
Little wonder then why Washington seized the chance to assess these formidable fighters while simultaneously denying Tehran an opportunity to expand its own fleet. Today there are still MiG-29 operators all over the world — largely in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and South Asia.

Poland has some Fulcrums operating alongside their U.S.-made F-16 jets. Curiously, Israel signed a deal in August 2011 to refurbish, modernize and overhaul Poland’s MiG-29s. The source of Israel’s own Fulcrum lease is still unknown.

This piece first appeared in WarIsBoring here.
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ni berapa lama punya cerita daaaaaa....
x lama lepas downfall of soviet union pun aku da ada baca berita ni....
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post Apr 1 2019, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 1 2019, 02:27 PM)
If the government really decided it's going down this road, at least make sure buy them in significant numbers enough for a serious air defence fleet. Don't go buy 10 or 15 only. Buy at least 30.

When say most fighter planes are expensive, so we buy  few only. Now can get cheaper fighter plane don't go saying that excuse also when you only buy 15 of those only also.  mad.gif
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acquire x mesti beli.... buka kamus webster
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post Apr 22 2019, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Apr 19 2019, 07:39 PM)
RAAF C-17 into RMAF Subang to join the Indo-Pacific Endeavour Task Group. Partners working together.

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https://twitter.com/ADFinMalaysia/status/1119172207849066497
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i saw these two Tigers flying away towards Selat Melaka just as i about to send my boy to skool. i noticed the RAAF jet departed Subang Saturday morning.

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post Apr 23 2019, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 22 2019, 08:57 PM)
azriel Frozen_sun

Dari Hong Kong ya whistling.gif
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pening dorg ni. masih x mau mengaku yang dorg dapat bantuan dari negara jiran dia ni.
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post Apr 23 2019, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(malberi8 @ Apr 23 2019, 10:54 AM)
bantuan pesawat A400 dari Malaysia dibilang dari Hong Kong... TNI harga discount nih..
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anjirrrrrrr!
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post May 7 2019, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ May 7 2019, 11:25 AM)
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post May 24 2019, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 23 2019, 03:31 PM)
Damen lays down keel for South African Navy's first Multi Mission Inshore Patrol Vessel (MMIPV)

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On February 23, Damen Shipyards Cape Town (DSCT) has ceremonially laid the keel for the South African Navy’s first of class Multi Mission Inshore Patrol Vessel (MMIPV) at its shipyard in the Port of Cape Town.

As explained by Chief of the South African Navy Vice-Admiral Mosiwa Hlongwane, a keel laying ceremony is an important tradition for any shipyard. It is naval tradition that every ship constructed for service be honoured on four historical ceremonial occasions, being: the keel laying; the christening (or launching); the commissioning; and decommissioning.

Although most ships are constructed using a modular system that does not include a traditional keel, the keel laying ceremony is still an important part of the construction process. Traditionally, the ceremony is meant to invite good luck during the construction of the ship and continued good fortune throughout the life of the vessel, whereby a commemorative coin is placed into the area of the keel and welded into place. The event in a modern sense celebrates the first milestone of a ship’s construction.

As a reminder, the acquisition of the MMIPV under the R1.5 billion Project Biro was approved in October 2017. The new vessel, P1571, will be completed in 2021 and is expected to be commissioned in June the same year. The second and third platforms are expected to be delivered in 2022 and 2023 respectively.

The IPVs will be the first vessels of a Damen Sea Axe design to operate in South Africa. The Sea Axe is a revolutionary, Damen patented hull design, which offers exceptional seakeeping behavior. The straight-edged, axe-shaped bow cuts through the water, minimising slamming for improved safety and comfort on board and significantly reduced fuel consumption and emissions.

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muntahlaa sapa operate sea axe design ni. ingatkan bagus punya design. sekali macam2 komplen daaaaaa
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post May 24 2019, 10:25 AM

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anyone know what SAAB 2000 MPA doing at Subang? dah 2 pagi aku nampak dia took off sebelum jam 8 dengan bunyi turboprop dia yg bising tu....
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post May 24 2019, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 24 2019, 10:26 AM)
Ada org complain ke? Tunisian Navy ada 2 OPV Sea Axe jugak, Jugurtha & Syphax.

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Syphax P611
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ada sorg Master geng offshore penah bawak kapal sea axe design ni... even Petronas pun x mau charter kalau ada FCB lain available. hahahaha
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post May 24 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ May 24 2019, 02:28 PM)
teruk ke???komplen macam mana??meh share dekat sini...berminat nak tau
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otai tu bgtau, pitching macam kepala bana walau sea conditions x seteruk mana. pastu bau MGO masuk dalam accommodation area, kuat lak tu sebab fuel tank dengan vent head ada kt depan dari accommodation. Petronas cukup x suka nak on hire FCB dua bijik tu.

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