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post Jul 9 2018, 05:23 PM

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Canada Loses All Hope of Finding Buyers for Its Outdated Tanks

19:52 08.07.2018

Canada's Leopard tanks were replaced with the more modern Leopard 2, but finding buyers for the old ones has proved to be difficult, especially due to the limitations imposed by the country.

The Canadian military has given up on its idea to sell its 50 decommissioned Leopard 1C2 battle tanks, which were rendered unnecessary after the army moved on to the Leopard 2, Global News reported. Department of National Defense spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier said in a statement that no buyers had been found for the outdated vehicles and the department is now looking into "alternate disposal methods."

According to the media outlet, the military reportedly tried to sell them to Jordan in February this year, but judging by the recent statement of the defense department, their efforts ultimately failed. Rob Huebert, a senior researcher at the Centre for Military and Strategic Analysis at the University of Calgary noted in an interview with Canadian media that the list of potential buyers was rather short due to Canada's policy not to sell weapons to "problematic countries."

The Department of National Defense spokesman said that 11 of the Leopard 1C2 tanks will be given to museums as a tribute to Canada's military history, while the fate of the others is yet to be determined. It is possible, that they will be used as targets in firing practice for the Leopard 2s or they could be just destroyed, he added.


https://sputniknews.com/us/2018070810661683...sell-old-tanks/


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 9 2018, 03:40 PM)
Aiya ini buku-buku cerita philosophy of warfare. You won't learn about small unit tactics by reading Sun Tzu. laugh.gif

Books like this one is much better:

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My bad. But not sure if these field manuals are accessible to civvies, apart from those generic publications by US Army Publishing Directorate.. Doubt these publications will go in-depth with their uni-level tactical maneuver, but I might be wrong.
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Why a powerful Indonesia could influence Australia's future more than China

THE WORLD BY MICHAEL WALSH
EARLIER TODAY AT 3:30AM

If its economy continues to grow at its current rate, Indonesia will become one of the most powerful nations in the world in coming decades.

Key points:
• Indonesia could become the fourth largest economy in the world by 2050
• Strategist Hugh White says a powerful Indonesia could help limit China's influence
• He said having strong ties with Indonesia would be a strategic asset to Australia

But while China's rise has loomed large in Australian foreign policy thinking, our northern neighbour's growing fortunes hardly seem to register.

Strategist Hugh White from the Australian National University has discussed what these developments could mean for Australia in a lead essay for the latest edition of Australian Foreign Affairs magazine.

"Indonesia, our next door neighbour, is going end up being a very rich and therefore very powerful country. And we haven't really thought about what to make of that," Professor White told the ABC's The World program.

Professor White says the Australian Government currently estimates that Indonesia's economy will be three times the size of ours by 2030, and may even become the fourth largest in the world by 2050.

"Indonesia's a funny economy because in some ways it looks very disorganised — it's got a lot of corruption, it's got a bad legal system and a lot of nationalism that can inhibit trade," he said.

"But the fact is that for a long time now, it's been growing at an average of 5 or 6 per cent per annum, and there doesn't seem much reason not to expect it to keep on doing that."

Could Indonesia help balance out China worries?

Professor White said there were two main ways to look at Indonesia's growth: as a potential threat, or as a potential strategic asset in a region where power dynamics are beginning to shift in China's favour.

"We've traditionally seen Indonesia as a very difficult neighbour, very close and potentially threatening to Australia," he said.

"In many ways Australian defence policy for decades has focused very strongly on the possibility of some sort of conflict with Indonesia."


Read more: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-09/w...34?pfmredir=sm#

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post Jul 10 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jul 9 2018, 06:18 PM)
My bad. But not sure if these field manuals are accessible to civvies, apart from those generic publications by US Army Publishing Directorate.. Doubt these publications will go in-depth with their uni-level tactical maneuver, but I might be wrong.
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To be fair, military tactics everywhere are, on paper, very generic but as far as I can tell, the best tactics are the simple ones which soldiers on the ground can follow without much confusion.

Indeed, much more important than than pure theoretical tactics are the discipline & bravery of soldiers to carry out their orders and the creativity & quick thinking needed by junior officers to come up with an alternative plan when the tactic devised earlier isn't working out in battle. Strict battle orders & timetables are usually inevitably hampered by military realities and by giving junior officers on the ground some flexibility in their orders as regarding to the objective is much better doctrine.

As von Moltke said: "No battle plan survives its first contact with the enemy".

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 10 2018, 11:30 AM)
To be fair, military tactics everywhere are, on paper, very generic but as far as I can tell, the best tactics are the simple ones which soldiers on the ground can follow without much confusion.

Indeed, much more important than than pure theoretical tactics are the discipline & bravery of soldiers to carry out their orders and the creativity & quick thinking needed by junior officers to come up with an alternative plan when the tactic devised earlier isn't working out in battle. Strict battle orders & timetables are usually inevitably hampered by military realities and by giving junior officers on the ground some flexibility in their orders as regarding to the objective is much better doctrine.

As von Moltke said: "No battle plan survives its first contact with the enemy".
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True. I always wonder though, the effects of network-centric warfare, and to what extent it may or may not lead to micro-management. At one point, iirc, I've read that unit-level decision-making autonomy is one of the factors why the IDF forces prevailed against the neighbouring Arab armies that emphasise too much on hierarchy & chain of command.
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jul 10 2018, 12:18 PM)
True. I always wonder though, the effects of network-centric warfare, and to what extent it may or may not lead to micro-management. At one point, iirc, I've read that unit-level decision-making autonomy is one of the factors why the IDF forces prevailed against the neighbouring Arab armies that emphasise too much on hierarchy & chain of command.
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That and a lot more reasons. laugh.gif

Anyway, one of the best examples of lower-level command autonomy was first successfully implemented by the post-napoleonic era Prussians following the philosophies of Scahrnhost, Clausewitz and von Moltke in the form of Auftragstaktik (literally Mission Tactics, or better translated as 'Tactics focused on accomplishing the task/mission').

Under the Auftragstaktik system the selection of combat formations, as well as their route and rate of advance, was based upon a unit's mission, the terrain and the enemy's disposition, something Napoleon was renowned for doing. Building a high level of trust, competency and understanding is crucial for the success of such a doctrine. The freedoms this might imply have challenged many armies' views of military discipline during the time, including the Prussian army's.

Auftragstaktik encourages commanders to exhibit initiative, flexibility and improvisation while in command. Auftragstaktik does not, of course, allow a commander to actually disobey orders, but it does allow (what may be seen as surprising by some) - and even demand - that he considers an order no longer binding if it wouldn't be given in the changed situation (according to his own judgment); only the intent of the higher commander must be maintained.

This demands, of course, that junior officers and ncos - rarely private ranks - both have the skill and also the self-confidence to treat the order accordingly. A sub-leader whose first fear is to be lectured by his superior, and hence cannot bring himself to do anything else with orders than execute them to the letter, is not capable of Auftragstaktik.

During the 1939 German campaign in Poland international observers found that "The emphasis which the Germans placed on the development of leadership and initiative in commanders during years of preparatory training brought its rewards in the Polish campaign. With confidence that these principles had been properly inculcated, all commanders, from the highest to the lowest echelons, felt free to carry out their missions or meet changes in situations with a minimum of interference by higher commanders." They recognized that "initiative, flexibility and mobility" were the essential aspects of German tactics.

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What’s in the Indonesia Navy’s New Tank Landing Ship?

Late last month, Indonesia officially announced the launch of a new tank landing ship in a ceremony attended by top officials and representatives. The scheduled event marked an advance within one of several platforms that Indonesia is building out as part of its wider military modernization effort, despite the continued challenges that remain on this front for the Southeast Asian state.

As I have noted before in these pages, Indonesia has long been engaged in an effort to strengthen the country’s maritime capabilities to address a wide range of domestic and foreign challenges, in recognition of the sobering reality that it still finds it difficult to accomplish even basic tasks such as monitoring and securing what is the world’s second longest coastline. Jakarta also wants to boost the country’s nascent but growing domestic defense industry as well as it builds up its capabilities, which only compounds that challenge.

Part of that development has included tank landing ships (LST) for the Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL). Though Indonesia already has such ships in service, including the KRI Teluk Bintuni which carries the army’s Leopard main battle tanks, there have been efforts underway to build more as well. The initial plan had been for 12 new LST vessels ordered in batches over time.

On June 28, Indonesia officially announced the launch of a new tank landing ship in the latest development in the development of the LSTs. Indonesian shipbuilder PT Daya Radar Utama (DRU) launched the vessel at the company’s facilities in Bandar Lampung in Sumatra in a development that was widely reported in local media outlets.

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The KRI Teluk Lada, which measures 117 meters long, 16.4 meters wide and 7.8 meters in height, boasts a top speed of 16 knots and a range of 6,240 nautical miles. It has been designed to carry not only tanks, but also helicopters along with their crew and hundreds of supporting troops.

The vessel’s launch was witnessed by several top Indonesian officials including Chief of Staff Admiral Siwi Sukma Adji and Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu. In his remarks at the launch, Ryacudu cast the development as a source of pride for the Indonesian Navy, the military, and the country more generally.

At the same time, as he has been doing in other such occasions, Ryacudu also reinforced the need for the proper maintenance of the vessel and for accountability to the Indonesian people. As I have noted before in these pages, though these factors are often missed in headlines about new capabilities, they nonetheless are major challenges for the future of Indonesia’s defense modernization efforts.
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post Jul 10 2018, 06:08 PM

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The Indonesian Army received delivery of 18 units M109A4-BE SPHs, 4 units Armored Command Post and 1 unit Mobile Crane from Belgium on July 9th 2018.

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https://lancerdefense.com/2018/07/09/m109-u...k-tni-ad-photo/

Video of the arrival:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk_zDnXgFPa/

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 10 2018, 08:08 PM)
The Indonesian Army received delivery of more M109A4-BE SPHs on July 9th 2018.

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https://lancerdefense.com/2018/07/09/m109-u...k-tni-ad-photo/

Video of the arrival:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk_zDnXgFPa/
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msia getting any?
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 9 2018, 05:23 PM)
can give it to us? laugh.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Jul 10 2018, 07:02 PM)
can give it to us?  laugh.gif  brows.gif
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leopard 1 dun wan
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leopard 1 dun wan
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 9 2018, 08:22 AM)
agree with those words. hope to see an increase in asset and budget.  rclxm9.gif
hope nobody stupid in new govt suggesting we in a peace time and no need of increase budget or add asset.
so RMAF really lobbying for something huh.....good job  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Why doesn't that commenter also say "look at Switzerland and Sweden public infrastructure, so much better than Msia, hope we get better funding an asset"?

Msia is behind most developed countries in A LOT of things, defence is only one area and sorry to say maybe not the most important

Msians should focus less on the arms race for sexy high tech jets etc and more on putting boots on the ground where they are needed

QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jul 10 2018, 12:18 PM)
True. I always wonder though, the effects of network-centric warfare, and to what extent it may or may not lead to micro-management. At one point, iirc, I've read that unit-level decision-making autonomy is one of the factors why the IDF forces prevailed against the neighbouring Arab armies that emphasise too much on hierarchy & chain of command.
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There are many factors. Generally the quality of Arab soldiers in most areas is far below IDF. Even if they are given decision making autonomy it would be pointless as they wouldn't know what to do.
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Not sure its that worth it

Leo 1 and Leo 2 is like earth and sky

And Leo 2 and Leo 2A6 also like earth and sky
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no parking brakes?
no worries we got ivan flex.gif  flex.gif


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msia getting any?
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Jul 10 2018, 07:33 PM)
Why doesn't that commenter also say "look at Switzerland and Sweden public infrastructure, so much better than Msia, hope we get better funding an asset"?

Msia is behind most developed countries in A LOT of things, defence is only one area and sorry to say maybe not the most important


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that is an interesting things to think. Switzerland and Sweden public infrastructure is good because of it citizen intelligence. really....mingle with them and they really deserve all those thing. now see Malaysia,dont know how many time i facepalm. i am one of first passenger of MRT and the first week,already see some passenger do shitty things. a lot of thing can be see in Malaysia(earth) like heaven and earth compare to Switzerland and Sweden(heaven).this also make me remember some higher ups who want to "better infrastructure" by introducing the apps/webs on internet where citizen/customer can log in,fill form,send and take it at office the other day only to realize most of its user was an elderly/not a millennial. spend god know how many money and get that result.really...mentality need to be change first. and most memorable was my friend who toss food package out of his car during holiday in Sweden only to be scold by some passerby "not to litter in our country" rclxms.gif rclxms.gif .


to me, we do need increase in asset and budget. asset is to replace old equipment which is high maintenance and also budget for manage and training. both of that have been neglected so much. so far our asset have been all gold plating(look good but not enough) so it should be change. get a simple and cheap solution but able to do the job. for example the MPA,we see Poseidon and all those expensive stuff. do we need all those or there is other alternative which is cheap but able to do the thing we need.
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 10 2018, 10:46 PM)
that is an interesting things to think. Switzerland and Sweden public infrastructure is good because of it citizen intelligence. really....mingle with them and they really deserve all those thing. now see Malaysia,dont know how many time i facepalm. i am one of first passenger of MRT and the first week,already see some passenger do shitty things. a lot of thing can be see in Malaysia(earth) like heaven and earth compare to  Switzerland and Sweden(heaven).this also make me remember some higher ups who want to "better infrastructure" by introducing the apps/webs on internet where citizen/customer can log in,fill form,send and take it at office the other day only to realize most of its user was an elderly/not a millennial. spend god know how many money and get that result.really...mentality need to be change first. and most memorable was my friend who toss food package out of his car during holiday in Sweden only to be scold by some passerby "not to litter in our country"  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
to me, we do need increase in asset and budget. asset is to replace old equipment which is high maintenance  and also budget for manage and training. both of that have been neglected so much. so far our asset have been all gold plating(look good but not enough) so it should be change. get a simple and cheap solution but able to do the job. for example the MPA,we see Poseidon and all those expensive stuff. do we need all those or there is other alternative which is cheap but able to do the thing we need.
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dont compare with developed eu countries la.. those ppl are looters... compare msia with those around the region/among developing countries.. msia is not that bad ler... a lot of procurement make sense only recently jibby songlap a lot to spoil everything...


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 10 2018, 10:08 PM)
dont compare with developed eu countries la.. those ppl are looters... compare msia with those around the region/among developing countries.. msia is not that bad ler... a lot of procurement make sense only recently jibby songlap a lot to spoil everything...
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yes...i know bro. i use that comparison because he use Sweden and Switzerland as example. SEA nation still improving such as Singapore,Malaysia and Brunei was among the best follow up by others.

jibby???no comment.better see the result in court. hope all those people open up and investigate about thing they said in ceramah and let justice decide.
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4 injured in Kyrgyz military helicopter crash

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BISHKEK, July 9 (Xinhua) -- A helicopter crashed in mountains of Kyrgyzstan's northern Issyk-Kul region on Monday, injuring four people, the press service of the country's armed forces reported.

"Today, MI-8 MTV, a helicopter of the Air Defense Forces of Kyrgyzstan crashed during a rescue operation on the South Enilchek site," it said.

The chopper was conducting an operation to rescue a Japanese climber when the accident occurred, Gulzat Jarasheva, head of the press service, told Xinhua. And the four people aboard received various injuries.

The press service statement attributed the crash to "the strong side wind during the landing" of the helicopter, which then "fell on the port side."

South Enilchek is located in the heart of the Northern Tien Shan in the headwaters of the Enilchek glacier, approximately at an altitude of 4000 meters above sea level.


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More pics of the delivery arrival of 18 units M109A4-BE SPHs from Belgium for the Indonesian Army. With this delivery the Indonesian Army will have a total 36 units M109A4-BE + supporting vehicles.

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http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2018/0...agi-di.html?m=1





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