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azriel
post Aug 17 2018, 10:31 AM

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UKRAINIAN OPLOT’S TOUGH ROAD TO THAILAND

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Oplot T-84 main battle tanks in Thailand. IMAGE: thaidefense-news.blogspot.com

The final six of 49 Ukrainian Oplot T-84 main battle tanks were delivered to the Royal Thai Army.

An anonymous source cited by the Bangkok post said that the final batch of the 49 tanks was handed over on July 29th. They are now in Prachin Buri, with the 2nd Infrantry Division. The source also claimed that tests would begin in early September.

The source also said that in April 2018 an army delegation inspected the final batch of battle tanks, in addition to 1st Army Chief, Lt. Gen. Kukiat Srinaka, who also did an inspection.

The Oplot T-84 main battle tanks were ordered back in 2011 by Thailand and cost $240 million.

The delivery of the battle tanks was initially supposed to be finalized by 2015. The first batch was delivered in early 2014. However, the production saw repeated delays due to an economic crisis in Ukraine after the coup in 2014 and the following civil war.

Thailand initially purchased the Oplot T-84 battle tanks to replace its US M-41s, which it bought from the US in 1957. Due to the delay in delivery, Thailand also signed a contract to buy 28 Chinese VT-4 battle tanks, seeking to boost the supplies in 2017.

On March 27th, Ukrainian state-owned defense holding Ukroboronprom announced that the contract for the supply of the T-84 battle tanks has successfully ended. The final batch was tested in the presence of Thai Military officers and were to be sent to Thailand promptly.

The T-84 is an upgrade of the Soviet T-80UD. First built in 1994, it entered into service in the Ukrainian army in 1999. It has a high-performance engine, which makes it one of the fastest main battle tanks in the world. The main weapons of the T-84 include one 125mm KBA-3 smoothbore gun fitted with a thermal sleeve and fume extractor. This is fed by an automatic loader which is similar to that installed in the T-64 in that the separate loading ammunition is stowed vertically whereas that of the T-72 and T-80 is stowed horizontally.

When the contract for the Chinese VT-4s was announced, Thailand reportedly attempted to cancel the order for the remaining T-84s. The T-84 reportedly had numerous problems.

In 2016, a Thai media publication reported that the Oplot T-84 battle tank has very limited battery life and needs frequent changes, after tests during the rainy season. The publication also claimed that the Ukrainian side is attempting to provide a higher level of service, which possibly also resulted in delays.


In early 2017, when it was announced that Thailand signed a contract for Chinese VT-4s, Sputnik News cited military analyst Vladislav Shurigin. He explained that the T-84’s technical characteristics did not match those of the actually produced tanks. According to him “the armor on the Oplot has proven to be of much poorer quality [than the design characteristics indicate]. The vehicles are not robust, and face constant breakdowns.” He also further commented that “the tactical and technical characteristics of the tanks do not coincide with the declared characteristics, because Ukraine faces a deficit in the special mechanisms used for guidance systems. Kiev simply does not have them, and is not capable of producing them today. Accordingly, [guidance] parameters are downscaled, and precise guidance to the target becomes almost impossible.” According to him the tanks amounted to little more than “useless crap.”

On June 18th, 2018, the National Interested reported the results of an annual tactical exercise in Germany’s Grafenwoehr Training Area. Since 2016, European and US countries have gathered there to test their tanks in various exercises. In the 2018 competition Ukraine’s T-84 placed in eighth, last place.

The National Interest provided information on various problems with the T-84.

Due to faulty charging mechanisms that send power to the autoloader, the T-84 autoloader did not load shells properly in all four tanks that were present, said Capt. Roman Bagaev, a company commander in the 14th Mechanized Brigade, cited by Novynarnia. Another issue is the shakiness of the 125 mm cannon due to faulty fire-control systems.

However, despite the problems according to the National Interest, the Ukrainian crews involved in the exercise liked their T-84s much more compared to the T64, which is the most numerous tanks in the Ukrainian military.


https://maps.southfront.org/ukrainian-oplot...ad-to-thailand/

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post Aug 17 2018, 05:55 PM

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waaaah......a propaganda? are u a singki? hehe

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Aug 17 2018, 08:34 PM
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Fat & Fluffy
post Aug 17 2018, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(razhar @ Aug 17 2018, 07:55 PM)
waaaah......a propaganda? are u a singki? hehe
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nah, gip u more singkie






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post Aug 17 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(razhar @ Aug 17 2018, 05:55 PM)
waaaah......a propaganda? are u a singki? hehe
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Lol lots of sinki and indons in this forum haha u don't know aa

Mostly not malaysian

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post Aug 18 2018, 09:29 AM

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PT Pindad workers & employees in Bandung welcoming back and greeted the Pindad/FNSS Medium Tank after weeks of successful mobility & performance tests outside Bandung. Live firing test is set to begin at the end of August that will be attended by Philippine officials. PT Pindad plan to sell 30 units to the Philippine and 100 units to Bangladesh for each country requirement. Credit to PT Pindad.

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post Aug 18 2018, 11:53 AM

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US Air Force T-38 Talon Jet Trainer Crashed Into A Field In Oklahoma

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Details are still coming in, but a T-38 Talon training jet from the 71st Flying Training Wing at Vance Air Force Base in Oklahoma has crashed. This is the sixth aircraft the Air Force has lost in non-combat mishaps in 2018 and the third incident involving a T-38 since November 2017.

This mishap occurred at around 3:30 PM local time in Oklahoma on Aug. 17, 2018. The jet plowed into farm pasture approximately 50 miles west of Vance Air Force Base, setting it on fire. Though the aircraft can carry a crew of two, the U.S. Air Force has said there was only a single pilot on board.

“One pilot was successfully ejected from one of Vance's T-38 training jets,” was how U.S. Air Force Technical Sergeant Eric Cardenas phrased the situation to Oklahoma's Enid News & Eagle newspaper. “The pilot is currently with emergency responders.”

Vance Air Force Base officials also said that the pilot was conscious after parachute down into the farm and that the property owner had given him water and tended to him until first responders arrived, according to The Olympian. Firefighters put out the resulting blaze, as well.


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RSAF50@Marina Barrage



The Republic of Singapore Air Force held its 50th Anniversary celebrations (RSAF50) at the Marina Barrage with an aerial display! Feel the adrenaline rush with this recap of the aerial displays and aircraft featured.

The highlights include an inaugural aerial display by two AH-64D helicopters, as well as a formation of a F-15SG decked in RSAF50 livery and two F-16Cs executing high speed aerial manoeuvres. This will also be the first time an unmanned aircraft - the Heron 1 Unmanned Aerial Vehicle - is participating in such a show. The aircraft will execute exhilarating manoeuvres and turns, such as:

- the Helicopter group’s Cross Dagger, Wing Over, Flash Pass, Tail Sweep, Hover Turn, Hover Cross and Viking Climb.

- Fighter Plane Aerial Display with an Arrowhead Formation, Spear Formation, Diamond Formation, Vertical Split, Four Point Roll, Aliron Roll Hit, Horizontal 8, High-G Turn, Quadruple Roll, Knife Edge Pass, Dedication Pass, Delta Vertical Loop, Inverted Helix, Low and Slow, High Speed Pass, Victory Flypast and a Bomb Burst.



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post Aug 19 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 12 2018, 01:04 PM)
I think you were asking SAIC/ST Kinetics MPF and i said yes. The Pindad/FNSS Medium Tank is a dedicated tank design with a rear engine so it carries no infrantry troops. Pindad is also to begin developing next year an IFV variant based on the Medium Tank. Ofcourse with a front engine.
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The Merkavas and Namers, etc have engines in front wherein the latter is protected by thick armour, esp.in fibua situations. They learnt this from experience, unlike nearly 99% of armed forces in the world. RPG and ATGM like to come from behind from thier own experience. The FNSS/Pindad mobile fiepower support IFV/APC is not network centric so it does not have 360 degrees situational awareness, it will definitely need support all round.

You have pretty much shot argument on dedicatd tank design to pieces by revealing that an IFV based on the FNSS/Pindad fire support vehicle will be introduced. It just an IFV/APC dude. Tho they started it off with a 105mm cannon version ..quite possibly for nationalistic fervour purposes from the pics I have seen in this forum.

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post Aug 19 2018, 06:30 PM

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Some RSAF ester eggs there if you could spot and link th dots...XXX dome, Aster 30, etc.

RSAF 50 workplan seminar - really good video on RSAF's development.

RSAF 2020 onwards will consist of the F15SG, F16V and F35 (to replace the F5 S/T). The F16s will be replaced by more F35s. All in good time...

https://www.facebook.com/TheRSAF/videos/1512783168830202/

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post Aug 19 2018, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 19 2018, 06:24 PM)
The Merkavas and Namers, etc have engines in front wherein the latter is protected by thick armour, esp.in fibua situations.  They learnt this from experience, unlike nearly 99% of armed forces in the world.  RPG and ATGM like to come from behind from thier own experience. The FNSS/Pindad mobile fiepower support IFV/APC is not network centric so it does not have 360 degrees situational awareness, it will definitely need support all round.

You have pretty much shot argument on dedicatd tank design to pieces by revealing that an IFV based on the FNSS/Pindad fire support vehicle will be introduced. It just an IFV/APC dude. Tho they started it off with a 105mm cannon version ..quite possibly for nationalistic fervour purposes from the pics I have seen in this forum.
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Nope. The FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank is not based from any existing IFV/APC design. It is a completely new hull and can be seen from the video below:



Pindad will design and develop an IFV variant based from the Medium Tank design. Its like the Namer is based from the Merkava MBT. Well based from your argument a Merkava is just an IFV/APC then. Lol. Just because the Namer is an IFV and using the Merkava hull so basically the Merkava is just an IFV/APC. Lol.

The FNSS/Pindad will be using locally made Battle Management System (BMS) by PT Hariff DTE. The same BMS already installed in the Leopard 2RI MBT as seen from the pic below:

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Situational awaremess is for the driver with camera at the front and at rear.

Rear driver's camera on the FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank:

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post Aug 19 2018, 07:25 PM

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Pindad eyes Bangladesh, Philippines for tank export

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Bandung | Sun, August 19 2018 | 01:17 am

State-owned weapons manufacturer PT Pindad is aiming to boost exports by targeting markets in South Asian and Southeast Asian countries including Bangladesh and the Philippines.

The company executives have asked the government to take part in the bidding process for weapons procurement in both countries. The company plans to offer modern medium weight tanks (MMWT), which it develops with Turkey...


http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/08...ank-export.html

^^ The K21-105 Medium Tank is the competitor in both Philippines and Bangladesh procurement program.

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post Aug 19 2018, 07:43 PM

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Malaysian army in Rimpac 2018


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post Aug 19 2018, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 19 2018, 07:25 PM)
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/08...ank-export.html

^^ The K21-105 Medium Tank is the competitor in both Philippines and Bangladesh procurement program.
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Well. At least there is some use to the fnss designed firepower support vehicle. What do you really expect countries like Bangladesh or the Phlippines to buy?
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post Aug 19 2018, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 19 2018, 07:03 PM)
Nope. The FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank is not based from any existing IFV/APC design. It is a completely new hull and can be seen from the video below:



Pindad will design and develop an IFV variant based from the Medium Tank design. Its like the Namer is based from the Merkava MBT. You wouldn't want to call a Merkava an IFV/APC just because the Namer is an IFV and using the Merkava hull. Lol.

The FNSS/Pindad will be using locally made Battle Management System (BMS) by PT Hariff DTE. The same BMS already installed in the Leopard 2RI MBT as seen from the pic below:

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Situational awaremess is for the driver with camera at the front and at rear.

Rear driver's camera on the FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank:

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That is right. .. an ifv designed vehicle which is of a different design compared to other ifv/apcs. But a 30 ton ifv/apc thin skinned vehicle nonetheless.

When one talks about 360 degrees situational awareness, it is a reference to a network designed linked to a battle management system which is linked to an over arching battle space management system. My car has a front and back camera too.

Comparing a namer to your light weight ifv/apc is misleading. The namer is indeed derived from a dedicated tank- the Merkava.
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post Aug 19 2018, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 19 2018, 08:06 PM)

Well. At least there is some use to the fnss designed firepower support vehicle. What do you really expect countries like Bangladesh or the Phlippines to buy?
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Well ofcourse. Better than selling nothing at all. Lol.

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post Aug 19 2018, 08:19 PM

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Well ofcourse. Better than selling nothing at all. Lol.
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Certainly is. You can sell Geeltys if you want..no harm at all. A warthog apc for example is more difficult or expensive to buy and own.
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post Aug 19 2018, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 19 2018, 08:13 PM)
That is right. .. an ifv designed vehicle which is of a different design compared to other ifv/apcs. But a 30 ton ifv/apc thin skinned vehicle nonetheless.

When one talks about 360 degrees situational awareness, it is a reference to a network designed linked to a battle management system which is linked to an over arching battle space management system. My car has a front and back camera too.

Comparing a namer to your light weight ifv/apc is misleading. The namer is indeed derived from a dedicated tank- the Merkava.
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That is why i said it will use locally made BMS contrary to what you said that it didn't have a network centric. Lol.

You were talking about situational awareness because what FNSS referred to as a situational awareness is the drivers camera.

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Mission Equipment

• 360⁰ Situational Awareness
• Wireless Crew Intercom System
• Navigation System
• Auxiliary Power Unit
• Interior & Exterior Lighting System
• Battlefield Management System (BMS)
• Laser Warning System (LWS)

http://www.fnss.com.tr/en/product/kaplan-m...-specifications

Nope i'm not misleading. You were quoting my post about a plan IFV variant development based from the design of the FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank by Pindad. I'm talking about a dedicated tank design from the drawing board and just because the manufacturer want to develop an IFV variant based from that design you want to call it just an IFV/APC variant. Lol. The Merkava-Namer is a good example aswell with the T-55- Achzarit.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 19 2018, 08:19 PM)
Certainly is. You can sell Geeltys if you want..no harm at all. A warthog apc for example is more difficult or expensive to buy and own.
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Well ofcourse the FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank is so easy to built and own. Lol.

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post Aug 19 2018, 09:22 PM

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Well ofcourse the FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank is so easy to built and own. Lol.
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So why do you need Fnss's assistance if it is so easy to build and own?
Lets see..if the phillipines was like say Australia..they would have purchased a boxer, cv 90s etc.

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