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Fat & Fluffy
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Jul 31 2018, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Jul 31 2018, 11:13 PM) this is so sad when mat sabu says only 4 out of 18 sukhoi jets can fly now...... the rest is collecting dust..  2 for operations, 2 for training? lelz, readiness down the drain... i wonder what would happen if terrorist were to hijack a plane and head towards kl how about the pilots? shake legs? QUOTE(tuo850 @ Aug 1 2018, 12:15 AM) KUALA LUMPUR: Only four out of the 28 Russian fighters jets owned by the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) are able to take to the skies, says Mohamad Sabu. The Defence Minister said that the RMAF had 18 Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30MKM and ten MiG-29 jetfighters. "Only four of the Sukhois are able to fly well," he said, adding that the remaining 14 are under repair. Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...GHlw8zShxZKE.99sos: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...r-jets-can-fly/mig29 is hopeless already... i wonder what about the f-18
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zacky chan
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Jul 31 2018, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 31 2018, 10:48 PM) on other news, I kinda disagree with Tun M's wishes to abolish MEIO entirely while indeed there are some bad apples in the agency (just jail that makcik director already for treason), I believe we still need our own version of CIA/MI6.. can't just rely on SB and DSID to handle everything why treason bro??what did that mak cik do??did she involve with something?
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zacky chan
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Jul 31 2018, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 31 2018, 10:54 PM) how about the pilots? shake legs? mig29 is hopeless already... i wonder what about the f-18 Five RMAF F/A-18D on their way to Darwin for Exercise Pitch Black 2018 including airbus A400. so yeah,its all down to drain now.if something were to happen(hope not). SU30 pilot?who know?maybe having training,involve with the maintenance or taking a vacation.
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kerolzarmyfanboy
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Jul 31 2018, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 31 2018, 10:58 PM) why treason bro??what did that mak cik do??did she involve with something? use MEIO to send official letter to CIA, asking CIA to support jibby if win last election that's the gist of it latest news today, the ex-DG wants the whistle-blower to be arrested for exposing an OSA document (that letter falls under OSA she said)
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tupai
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Jul 31 2018, 11:05 PM
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the comment by mat sabu was in the parliament when asked about the current situation of jet airworthiness. I am sure he get his information from the air force themselves and that info is not a state secret otherwise the military officers under him would have advice him whether to disclose or not in the parliament
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zacky chan
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Jul 31 2018, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 31 2018, 11:03 PM) use MEIO to send official letter to CIA, asking CIA to support jibby if win last election that's the gist of it latest news today, the ex-DG wants the whistle-blower to be arrested for exposing an OSA document (that letter falls under OSA she said) really bro??there is a part saying to support jibby?can you share here. i out of touch with current issue
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kerolzarmyfanboy
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Jul 31 2018, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jul 31 2018, 11:05 PM) the comment by mat sabu was in the parliament when asked about the current situation of jet airworthiness. I am sure he get his information from the air force themselves and that info is not a state secret otherwise the military officers under him would have advice him whether to disclose or not in the parliament nah it's completely normal to share about air worthiness... other nations also did it... malaysians just kepochi.. "u doofus Mat Sabu! why u reveal that?? ahhhhhh!! they knew our weakness now! we're gonna get invaded for this tomorrow"... pffttt QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 31 2018, 11:08 PM) really bro??there is a part saying to support jibby?can you share here. i out of touch with current issue  straits times
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sukhoi35mk
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Jul 31 2018, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 31 2018, 10:54 PM) 2 for operations, 2 for training? lelz, readiness down the drain... i wonder what would happen if terrorist were to hijack a plane and head towards kl how about the pilots? shake legs? mig29 is hopeless already... i wonder what about the f-18 we will give our little dot neighbor a call.... their F-16s or F-15s will be there in no time.... maybe that explain on 5th Apr.... SAF deployed 2 F-15s to escort scoot plane off kuantan water all the way back to SG..
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Fat & Fluffy
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Jul 31 2018, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Aug 1 2018, 01:14 AM) we will give our little dot neighbor a call.... their F-16s or F-15s will be there in no time.... maybe that explain on 5th Apr.... SAF deployed 2 F-15s to escort scoot plane off kuantan water all the way back to SG.. singkie only if its near their airspace... but what if it is at borneo or north of KL? from flight path that day it way as far as senai only... not all the way to kuantan... so got to give rmaf the benefit of doubt... sad sg besi is not longer there... good luck to southern states
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zacky chan
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Jul 31 2018, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 31 2018, 11:13 PM) nah it's completely normal to share about air worthiness... other nations also did it... malaysians just kepochi.. "u doofus Mat Sabu! why u reveal that?? ahhhhhh!! they knew our weakness now! we're gonna get invaded for this tomorrow"... pffttt straits timesother nations also did it???yes they do(german and india did it recently) but at the same time they propose or push the agenda forward. we still need to see what the reaction is. my mentality is with having a presence we can show its our territory. that is why navy and MMEA always presence when other nation asset enter our maritime domain. now what will RMAF do? 5 RMAF F/A-18D at pitch black and 14 under maintenance. what is left if some aircraft enter our air??of course there were never an invader.just like there is never sabah intrusion or ops pasir.
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zacky chan
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Jul 31 2018, 11:44 PM
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found it, hope its true http://www.malaysia-today.net/2018/07/20/i...er-to-cia-boss/"14. I hope Your Excellency’s esteemed service will be able to report to the Secretary of State, on the complexity of managing this election by Prime Minister Najib and the need to have US support for the present government even if we are to win the election by a simple majority of just one seat. Any indication that the US government would continue to support Prime Minister Najib and his government would definitely strengthen our stability and enhance the existing cordial relationship driven by strong rapport between our two leaders." this is the paragraph made which could be interpret as treason. but not by much. it just like us saying in the letter "segala usaha dan kerjasama pihak tuan amat saya hargai" but in magnanimous way. just gonna let the authority investigate it clearly. FYI Gina Haspel was a celeb you know. incharge of CIA black site in Thailand in 2002. the inquiry was good to watch.
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MichaelJohn
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Jul 31 2018, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 31 2018, 10:37 PM) ATSC & AIROD is company under NADI AIROD. handle European Jets while ATSC handle Russian jets any reason for the maintenance contract termination? Seems kinda rushed, should wait until a new contractor would be appointed for smooth transition or something. Unless got other factor involved
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atreyuangel
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Aug 1 2018, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 31 2018, 11:58 PM) any reason for the maintenance contract termination? Seems kinda rushed, should wait until a new contractor would be appointed for smooth transition or something. Unless got other factor involved bukan seems mmg pun
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emanresu
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Aug 1 2018, 11:33 AM
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PM should focus on aircraft enigneering not 3rd national car. you can just google youtube to build modern car. but not air/spacecraft parts
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zimhibikie
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Aug 1 2018, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(emanresu @ Aug 1 2018, 11:33 AM) PM should focus on aircraft enigneering not 3rd national car. you can just google youtube to build modern car. but not air/spacecraft parts cost on RnD way too high..not economic feasible enough
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emanresu
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Aug 1 2018, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(tupai @ Aug 1 2018, 12:05 AM) the comment by mat sabu was in the parliament when asked about the current situation of jet airworthiness. I am sure he get his information from the air force themselves and that info is not a state secret otherwise the military officers under him would have advice him whether to disclose or not in the parliament only 2 fighter jet needed to bomb intrusions. hence 4 units are more than sufficient to safeguard the nation for couple decades.
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zacky chan
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Aug 1 2018, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(emanresu @ Aug 1 2018, 11:33 AM) PM should focus on aircraft enigneering not 3rd national car. you can just google youtube to build modern car. but not air/spacecraft parts just because its not there,does not mean it is feasible or doable. depends on the industry,how many interested if we make aircraft compare to chinese made???how much money would it need to be make radar,integrated weapon and system and even other mission spec. a lot.....its not a lucrative for our country. the reason the interests was shift toward car was maybe because good manufacture can get to make spare part of other car brands. plus car is a lucrative industry since most people need it. supply and demand.
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emanresu
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Aug 1 2018, 12:32 PM
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its best to start early to produce indigenous engines/parts/electronics for air/spacecraft engineering. Nation will then have the ability to service & repair even the smallest of components and sell advanced products.
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zacky chan
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Aug 1 2018, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(emanresu @ Aug 1 2018, 12:32 PM) its best to start early to produce indigenous engines/parts/electronics for air/spacecraft engineering. Nation will then have the ability to service & repair even the smallest of components and sell advanced products. is't that what AIROD and ATSC objective and done right now?
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periuk_api1209
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Aug 1 2018, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(emanresu @ Aug 1 2018, 12:32 PM) its best to start early to produce indigenous engines/parts/electronics for air/spacecraft engineering. Nation will then have the ability to service & repair even the smallest of components and sell advanced products. they started already la... http://www.mida.gov.my/home/aerospace/posts/ This post has been edited by periuk_api1209: Aug 1 2018, 01:08 PM
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