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msia should just sell it off to murica too?  hmm.gif

Big Secret No More: America Purchased 21 Lethal Russian MiG-29 Fighters

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One test pilot concluded that the Fulcrum’s “abilities equals and sometimes even exceeds those of the F-15 and F-16 jets. The aircraft is highly maneuverable, and its engines provide higher weight to thrust ratio. Our pilots must be careful with this aircraft in air combat. Flown by a well trained professional, it is a worthy opponent.”

When the Soviet Union collapsed in late 1991, the newly independent states within its former domain inherited enormous stockpiles of weapons the Red Army left behind.

One of the most interesting cases involved the air force of the tiny former Soviet republic of Moldova. The new republic’s inventory consisted of 34 MiG-29 Fulcrums, eight Mi-8 Hip helicopters and a handful of transport aircraft — a sizeable force for such a small state. To put Moldova’s size into perspective, the country’s population is smaller than the metro area of Portland, Oregon.

Moldova couldn’t afford to maintain the fleet and, to make matters worse, was in a deep recession. Meanwhile, the United States feared Moldova would sell the MiG-29s to Iran, which could use them to bolster its own fleet of Fulcrums. Washington was also wary that Moldova might pass the technology to Iran’s rivals since the fleet included 14 MiG-29C variants configured to deliver nuclear weapons.

So in 1997, the United States deployed its most powerful tool to get the MiG-29s for itself. That tool … was money. Washington bought 21 of the MiG-29s — including 14 C models , one B model and six A models — and flew them in pieces on C-17 transport planes to Dayton, Ohio.

Not only was purchasing the jets a good way of ensuring they did not end up in Tehran’s hands, it gave Washington an opportunity to inspect one of the most sophisticated Soviet jets ever built. In exchange, Moldova received $40 million in humanitarian assistance, some army trucks and other non-lethal equipment.

Moldova sold the rest of its air force to Eritrea and Yemen. The newly American MiG-29s would largely disappear into a maze of testing squadrons, intelligence centers and U.S. Air Force “ exploitation facilities ,” according to Air & Space Magazine .

The MiG-29 was a maneuverable, deadly aircraft for its time. Its Archer AA-11 missiles were sophisticated for the 1990s because of their ability to lock targets with a helmet-mounted cueing system at greater angles away from the jet’s nose than comparable American fighters. However, this advantage would collapse when the Pentagon introduced the AIM-9X missile in 2003 and associated helmet-mounted displays.


The Fulcrum further lacked the avionics and information management systems to tell the pilot what was going on outside the airplane, or where they were. A pilot literally had to look at paper maps to figure out their location. In general, the MiG-29 is a fine airplane engineering wise, but increasingly obsolete for aerial warfare in the 21st century without upgrades.

Incidentally, 1997 was the same year that another country outside the former Soviet bloc obtained MiG-29s. That country was Israel, which loaned three single-seat Fulcrums for a couple of weeks from an undisclosed Eastern European country.


Given that the MiG-29 was the most advanced jet fighter Russia ever gave to its Arab clients — Iraq and later Syria — the Israelis doubtlessly welcomed an opportunity to test and evaluate it themselves.

Israeli pilots who tested out the aircraft were quite impressed . While different from the standard American-made jets they were accustomed to, they reported that the MiG-29 was easy to fly. Its computers for enabling landing if the pilot experienced difficulty were quite noteworthy.

This is due to the fact that this system “stabilizes the jet in case the pilot is affected by vertigo disease, and loses his orientation in space,” IAF Magazine noted. “Such systems do not exist in western aircraft, counting on the pilot to handle such situations independently.”

One test pilot concluded that the Fulcrum’s “abilities equals and sometimes even exceeds those of the F-15 and F-16 jets. The aircraft is highly maneuverable, and its engines provide higher weight to thrust ratio. Our pilots must be careful with this aircraft in air combat. Flown by a well trained professional, it is a worthy opponent.”
Little wonder then why Washington seized the chance to assess these formidable fighters while simultaneously denying Tehran an opportunity to expand its own fleet. Today there are still MiG-29 operators all over the world — largely in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and South Asia.

Poland has some Fulcrums operating alongside their U.S.-made F-16 jets. Curiously, Israel signed a deal in August 2011 to refurbish, modernize and overhaul Poland’s MiG-29s. The source of Israel’s own Fulcrum lease is still unknown.

This piece first appeared in WarIsBoring here.
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ni berapa lama punya cerita daaaaaa....
x lama lepas downfall of soviet union pun aku da ada baca berita ni....
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for msia?
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Malaysian combat aircraft old but functioning well: PM Mahathir

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Malaysia's ageing combat aircraft are still functioning well and can be used for several more years, said Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Tuesday (Mar 26).

Speaking during a press conference at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition, Dr Mahathir said although the jets were purchased a long time ago, their performance was still at the optimum level as they were maintained well.

"Yes, we are interested (in buying new combat aircraft) but it is not time yet. We find the aircraft we bought some time back still can perform well," he said, when asked if Malaysia plans to replace its ageing fleet.

"We could see this today, the demonstration which involved all these old aircraft, they have been looked after and serviced well and we find, based on their performance, they can last longer."

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Last July, Defence Minister Mohamad Sabu revealed that only four of the 28 Russian-made fighter jets owned by the Royal Malaysian Air Force were able to fly.

A month later, the minister said in Parliament that Malaysia’s defence assets were the "lowest ranked" in Southeast Asia.

“In terms of our navy, air force and others in Southeast Asia, we are at the bottom. Vietnam is far ahead, Indonesia is on top while Malaysia is the lowest," Mr Mohamad then said.

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I am surprised certain incident at LIMA has not made it to /k yet rolleyes.gif
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I am surprised certain incident at LIMA has not made it to /k yet rolleyes.gif
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Is it about the hornet engine failure? Just saw it in NST. Do we even have a spare engine for it?
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Indonesian Navy newest and 3rd DSME Type 209 Submarime being moved to Surabaya Dock at PT PAL Shipyard in preparation for her launching.



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Indonesia Sticking By Su-35 Order, Rostec Says

Aerospace Daily & Defense Report
Marhalim Abas
Mar 28, 2019

LANGKAWI, Malaysia—Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu assured the Russian government three weeks ago that a signed but pending order for 11 Sukhoi Su-35 fighters will go through, the Russian state holding company Rostec said.

Jakarta’s failure so far to move ahead with the order does not mean it has had second thoughts about the deal, according to Viktor Kladov, Rostec’s director of international cooperation and regional policy.

 “The contract for the 11 Sukhois in early 2018 signed in Jakarta is valid. The contract for the counter-trade agreement signed with the Indonesia Trade Ministry in July 2018 is also valid,” he told a media briefing at Lima air show here March 28.

Ryamizard gave the assurance that the deal would proceed during a visit to Moscow three weeks ago, Kladov said.


Read more: http://m.aviationweek.com/awindefense/indo...der-rostec-says

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post Mar 29 2019, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Mar 27 2019, 03:06 PM)
Is it about the hornet engine failure? Just saw it in NST. Do we even have a spare engine for it?
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after kepsi flew into it or drone? laugh.gif

Anyway, at least no crash like 2015 Lima yet.
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Mar 29 2019, 08:12 AM)
after kepsi flew into it or drone? laugh.gif

Anyway, at least no crash like 2015 Lima yet.
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it does smell like kepsi at the burner after wards drool.gif
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Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad threatens to boycott EU fighter jets over palm oil

In the sharpest response yet on EU plans to curb palm oil use, Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said the nation may consider buying new jets from China instead of European arms companies

But the premier said he was not “declaring war” on the EU as his country needed goods from the bloc

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-as...tens-boycott-eu
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Russia offers palm oil defence offset
By Adrian David - March 29, 2019 @ 11:34am


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LANGKAWI: Russia is committed to drastically increasing its purchase of palm oil from Malaysia, said its top defence procurement official.

The palm oil purchase will entail an offset deal leading to the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) disposing of its two squadrons of 18 decommissioned MiG-29N Fulcrum jets.

Russia is already assisting in refurbishing the ageing fleet of 18 Sukhoi Su-30MKM Flankers, via its local partner ATSC Corp, reportedly for RM2.2 billion — thus expanding its serviceability for another 15 years.

And it is now even looking at offering the RMAF the fourth-generation Su-35 or even its latest Su-57E (the equivalent of the United States’ F-22) if it wants to upgrade.

Rostec State Corp international cooperation and regional policy director Viktor Kladov told the New Straits Times Russia was willing to buy Malaysian palm oil in substantial amounts to improve the bilateral trade balance, with the possibility of trade-offs for arms and defence procurement and transfer of technology and job spin-offs.

“We are aware of the palm oil ban for biofuels in Europe and Russia is ever-ready to help Malaysia by buying more palm oil. At present, 90 per cent of Russia’s palm oil is imported from Indonesia and we intend to change that (in Malaysia’s favour).[COLOR=red]

“I have personally spoken with Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad on this matter at a private meeting with him yesterday, and applauded him for his great vision. This can lead to improved defence offset packages that can greatly benefit Malaysia,” he said in a special interview at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition (Lima) 2019 at the Mahsuri International Exhibition Centre in Padang Matsirat.

Europe is the largest buyer of Malaysian palm oil after India and now even China has reduced imports of the commodity.

Kladov was a prime mover in enhancing Russia-Malaysia defence relations during Dr Mahathir’s first 22-year tenure as prime minister.

It culminated with a several hundred million dollar offset deal, involving palm oil, with Malaysia initially procuring 18 MiG-29N Fulcrum air superiority fighters in 1995.

The MiG-29N — two of which crashed in 1998 and 2005, respectively — was decommissioned in 2017 owing to high maintenance costs of RM262 million a year.

Several countries, including Bangladesh and India, are keen to buy the MiG-29N.

Subsequently, in 2003, Malaysia purchased 18 Flankers from Russia’s Irkut Corp for US$900 million (RM3.67 billion), also involving palm oil purchase.

The offset deal led to the country’s first space programme with Malaysia’s first astronaut to the International Space Station in 2007.

Owing to budgetary constraints, the RMAF has deferred its multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) programme to 2025.

Instead, it is looking at improving on its lead-in fighter jet fleet, which is made up of the Italian Aermacchi MB339.

“In fact, Russia’s Yak 130 is similarly designed after the Aermacchi and we are prepared to trade in RMAF’s ageing fleet,” said Kladov.

He added that he also had a discussion with RMAF chief General Tan Sri Affendi Buang who was keen on strengthening and improving the serviceability of its fighter jets.

“He is all for Russia to give strong technical and maintenance support for its existing Sukhoi fleet. Affendi is not in favour of procuring too many fighter jets as Malaysia is a small maritime nation,” said Kladov.

On another matter, Kladov said the Fire and Rescue Department and the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency were interested in procuring up to eight units of Ansat, Mil Mi-8/17 and Kamov Ka-32A11DC from Russian Helicopters, a division of Rostec State Corp.

“These helicopter models, which can be traded in for the older fleet of the agencies, are ideal for fire-fighting, emergency medical services, as well as search and rescue missions,” he said.


https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/03/...-defence-offset
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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ Mar 29 2019, 02:56 PM)
Meanwhile,

Russia offers palm oil defence offset
By Adrian David - March 29, 2019 @ 11:34am
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/03/...-defence-offset
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if the mig-29 is beyond saving, dispose it fast.. get the su-30 up and running fast too... the rest is bonus
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post Mar 29 2019, 07:33 PM

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Indonesia moves third Nagapasa submarine to alternative site for long-delayed launch

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
28 March 2019

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Alugoro, seen here on an intermediary barge while on its way to an alternative launch site. Source: Screengrab of video taken by an Indonesian industry source

Key Points

• PT PAL has successfully completed a risky operation to transfer the third Nagapasa-class submarine to an alternative launch site
• Vessel will be the first-ever submarine to be launched in Indonesia once it takes to the water

Indonesian state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL has successfully transferred its third Nagapasa (Type 209/1400)-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK) to an alternative launch site, after heavy silting was discovered at the original location where it was supposed to enter the water.

The vessel was transferred to its launch site at PT PAL's dock at Semarang via a 300-foot intermediate barge, and is now slated for launch on 12 April if all precedents for the ceremony are assessed to be in order, an industry source confirmed with Jane's on 28 March.

Alugoro was originally slated for launch at PT PAL's dock adjacent to Jalan Letnan Supriadi as early as October 2018. However, PT PAL engineers later discovered that the location has become too shallow owing to sedimentary deposits. The situation was aggravated in recent years by construction work at the nearby Terminal Teluk Lamong, said an industry source who first informed Jane's of the situation.

The submarine will now be launched at the same site where larger ships, such as the Philippine Navy's strategic sealift vessels (SSVs), first took to the water.

Alugoro is Indonesia's third-in-series overall for the Nagapasa class. But the boat is the first-ever submarine to be assembled locally at PT PAL's facilities in Surabaya. The SSK's assembly was done in collaboration with engineers from South Korea's Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) as part of a technology transfer programme.


https://www.janes.com/article/87539/indones...-delayed-launch

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if the mig-29 is beyond saving, dispose it fast.. get the su-30 up and running fast too... the rest is bonus
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I thought the reason why RMAF didnt just get more Flankers was because they couldnt install french avionics due to Russian embargo?

Got alternative ka?
-local assembly
-Indian source?

How much similarities in parts between Pure ruskie and MKM ?
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N219 2nd Prototype. Photo by Bambang Haryanta.

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Indonesia's N219 On Track for 2019 Certification

by Jennifer Meszaros
March 29, 2019, 9:07 AM

Indonesia’s principal aircraft manufacturer, PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), continues to edge closer to Indonesian certification of its 19-seat N219 multi-purpose utility turboprop after its second porotype completed its fourth test flight on March 28. PTDI director of production Arie Wibowo told AIN the aircraft took off from Husein Sastranegara International Airport in Bandung, West Java and flew for approximately two hours before landing smoothly.

PTDI uses two N219 prototypes for its flight-test program; another two serve as full-scale static and fatigue structural test articles. Widobo said the company hopes to gain Indonesian certification for the turboprop by the end of the year.

Designed for a cruise speed of 190 knots and a stall speed of 59 knots, the N219 features a Garmin G1000 avionics suite and two 850-shp Pratt & Whitney PT6A-42 engines driving Hartzell four-blade propellers. Uses include passenger and cargo services, troop transport, military surveillance, search and rescue, as well as medevac operations in remote regions with short, rugged airstrips. Priced at between $5.8 million and $6 million, the N219 sells for a slightly lower price than its main competitor, the Viking DHC-6 Twin Otter.

“The N219 aircraft answers the needs of Indonesia, particularly in the East as well as other remote locations in Southeast Asia,” Widobo told AIN. “With a competitive price tag, it is the right alternative compared to similar aircraft on the market.”

PTDI has secured two launch customers—the government of Aceh in North Sumatra and the government of Papua in Indonesia’s easternmost province—and has amassed letters of intent (LoI) covering 120 aircraft. LoI signees include PT Avistar Mandiri, Lion Air, Trigana Air Service, Nusantara Buana Air, Pelita Air, Air Born, and the government of Thailand. Madagascar, Congo, Senegal, and Norway have also signaled interest due to the aircraft’s STOL abilities.


Read more: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air...9-certification



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LIMA 2019: Malaysia considers counter-trade push to support military procurement

Jon Grevatt, Langkawi - Jane's Defence Weekly
28 March 2019

Key Points

• Continuing economic constraints have prompted Malaysia to consider leaning on counter-trade to support military modernisation efforts
• A Russian official has said Moscow is ready to “drastically increase” its imports of Malaysian palm oil to support military acquisitions

Malaysia is considering a move to push harder on the use of counter-trade – involving local commodities including palm oil – as a means to facilitate defence trade. Jane’sunderstands that the method is gaining political support in light of the country’s continuing fiscal restraints.

Counter-trade is already an option for supporting defence trade in Malaysia, with the method listed as one of several activities through which defence contractors can fulfil industrial collaboration obligations. This policy – known as the Industrial Collaboration Programme (ICP) – also includes activity including technology transfers, local production, and export facilitation.

However, officials told Jane’s at the 2019 LIMA exhibition in Langkawi that counter-trade could become far more prominent as an approach to military procurement if the government decides that the country’s economic environment is likely to continue to limit opportunities for military modernisation.

Several major procurement programmes have been shelved in the past few years and seem unlikely to go ahead any time soon following the admission of Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad’s administration, shortly after Mohamad assumed office in May 2018, that the government faces debts of USD250 billion.

Challenges for the military were further underscored in late 2018 when the government reduced the 2019 defence budget by 10% to MYR13.91 billion (USD3.4 billion).

Speaking to Jane’s , one government official said counter-trade to support defence acquisitions in Malaysia was used extensively in the past but in recent years had lost momentum because other forms of economic compensation have been prioritised. However, he said the approach could make a return if it is seen to facilitate military modernisation.
https://www.janes.com/article/87525/lima-20...ary-procurement
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RMAF Su-30MKM separate incidents on consecutive days at LIMA 19

The Royal Malaysian Air Force paired the F/A-18 and Su-30MKM to perform a tactical display to the crowd at this year’s Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition. However, the Su-30MKM suffered from mechanical issues on the last trade day display and in the afternoon session of the public day display.

The team adopted Ace as their callsign. Ace 3, flown by Capt. Alien and Maj. Jamil, was in trouble right after the aircraft was airborne from Langkawi airport on Mar. 28. The jet’s right main landing gear failed to retract after climbing left on take off. The crew abandoned plans to join the rest of the team for the tactical display and diverted to the west of the airfield to dump fuel and recover back at Langkawi. Later in the evening, we asked Capt. Aliem how he handled the emergency situation and he replied that as a fighter pilot he was trained to handle all kinds of situations. The aircraft was fortunately able to deploy all its landing gear and landed without further incident. The plan for any emergency was to land back in Langkawi as the support crew are all on the island for the air show.

The next day, Ace 1 also faced an emergency situation after getting airborne for the first afternoon display session for LIMA.

With Lt. Col. Faizal at the controls and Maj. Nik sitting behind him. One of the aircraft’s electro mechanical system failed and the crew calmly dealt with the problem and landed safely.


https://alert5.com/2019/03/30/rmaf-su-30mkm...ays-at-lima-19/

Some pics of the incident: https://mobile.twitter.com/NigelPittaway1/s...779916297560066

^^ Good job to both pilots.

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is it possible for RMAF invest in more advance weapon systems rather than upgrading to new fighter planes?

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