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dannyw
post Aug 27 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(akatsukea @ Aug 27 2020, 09:52 AM)
Just changed 2 pair tyre. When do the alignment the tyreman said meed to adjust chamber bcoz 'lari' about 30° as shown below. Do i need to adjust chamber?
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Check your old tyre tread. If out, it will be wear out one side.
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post Aug 27 2020, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(akatsukea @ Aug 27 2020, 02:48 PM)
I saw that the tires wear out on the outside.
But I just rotated the tires few months back.
Not sure if it wear before or after I rotated.
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Have you change anything on the Absorber or Absorber Mounting?

I lesson learn on after change this 2 part and not redo alignment, after a year only notice tyre wear our uneven especially on the outer side. End up have to add Camber on 1 side.

Luckily when change tyre recently, the alignment not really out.
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post Aug 27 2020, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 27 2020, 03:14 PM)
Yep, worn or new absorber /absorber mounting could alter the camber/toe-in numbers . But the numbers may still be within OEM range specs and out of spec as well , IDK .

Not sure by 'adding' camber on 1 side means shifting camber angle towards positive or negative , can anyone help elaborate or explain ?

However , adjusting camber angle of one side only I suspect there was a difference in camber between the sides . Having said this, before adjustment both different camber angles could still be within range , we don't know without like the computer screen shot by akatsukea above  .
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I would say is after replace this 2 parts, cause the alignment out. Not sure is workmanship problem or ...
During that time, i did not take down the out degree. When see tyre wear out on side panic already, the shop advice to add, then just follow.

I got the feeling actually should be able to adjust back, is just they want earn extra.

Now I try go different tyre shop, i ask them change back my original nut, most of them say if no out, no need to touch or change. So using it few years until now.
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post Aug 28 2020, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 27 2020, 09:02 PM)
Hi, from the day after adjusting camber on one side to the day you recently change the tyre set you found alignment is not out .

May I know whether you do regular tyre rotation in between ? If so 10,000 km or ?

How many years or km during this interval ? 3 years ?
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Hi Zeng, no. I'm not the person always do alignment as the price not cheap (well, for me only). I did not rotate the tyre as well.

My last install that camber until now is 3 years already, about 30K km.


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post Aug 28 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 28 2020, 12:55 PM)
Toe-in can be adjusted without extra cost in parts .

Since you paid extra and it has something to do with "nut"  ,in the absence of wheel alignment screen shot here , I would speculate that computer camber reading is out of specifications which implies adjustment of camber angle is required .

However camber adjustment is not possible in your car design (what car model is this ?). Hence extra cost in camber nut parts replacement .

In other words, this tyre centre workshop has not conned you but did the job right , IMHO .
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I can't remember the degree, just know that the staff ask the boss advice, from their face reaction, seems like is an option to adjust. if not mistaken should be 1+ only. That's why from there on, anything also i take the photo for reference.

The nut itself not expensive, about RM20, plus the alignment RM35. That shop also weird RM15 for front wheel only.

I'm driving Persona 2011, same like your model. biggrin.gif


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post Aug 28 2020, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 28 2020, 01:01 PM)
Me too is no fan of wheel alignment , neither do I practise tyre rotation .

From your experience here , total absence of periodic alignment and tyre rotation is all right for up to 3 years .

Thanks for the elaboration/clarifications .
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Welcome, bro.

If not hit any big pothole, should be fine.

New car until change 1st set of tyre 3 years, no alignment all well.
2nd set is in between change that 2 parts, that's why make the tyre uneven wear.
After align back, now is another 3 years. My recent alignment is less than 1 degree, the foreman also say less than 1 degree can be ignore. I should save this RM20 blush.gif

Anyway just treat as pay for worry free. At least like you say i know about 3 years or more no alignment still not really out.
Btw, my last set of tyre last me 6 years! biggrin.gif


 

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