Hi guys,

Just wanna share my experience and unleash my anger about my simple medical experience with some specialist.

I had a simple and small "tonsil stones", i can see with my bare eye, but i could not get it out myself, so i went to Sunway Medical to seek consultation and treatment with one of their very re-known ENT Specialist.

During the consultation, the ENT confirmed is tonsil stone, but refused to remove it for me. Instead, he is asking me to do Tonsillectomy (in plain english, surgical removal of my tonsil). Quoted me RM8000, and keep asking me to do it. I requested him :why don't you just remove my tonsil stone first, then i decide the op in other time. But he refused. I end up walking out Sunway Medical with a RM209 medical bill without a real treatment. WTF.

Yesterday, i went to see general doctor in USJ, show him my tonsil stone, the general doctor took out a metal stick from his tool box, inserted to my mouth, and get the tonsil stone out in just 5 seconds. I walked out the clinic with a happy face and RM25 medical bill.

I just wondering what the hell the ENT has done. I have been thinking they are more interested to do lot of surgical op to get good money.

This is very unprofessional.

Yet, he is so famous in USJ and Sunway area.

Such cases can report to KKM and MMC ?

why the fuck would he remove your tonsil

tonsil is important in keeping your throat and mouth healthy

you're just gonna develop more problem after removing your tonsil

hence, more money to him i guess

First day engage specialist meh?

Of course they wanna chop you kao kao la.. They pay so much and suffer so much to get the specialist ma.. If not how to live up to the doctors lifestyle

Tonsil stones can easily be removed on your own - either you use a long object like a chopstick and apply pressure, or you wiggle around your tongue. Gargle with mouthwash first to loosen them and it should come out easily.

As far as the specialist's recommendation goes, removing your tonsils will prevent future irritation from tonsil stones. However, the tonsils exist for a reason - they catch dirt and prevent further infections such as sore throat from occurring. The worst tonsil stones do is give you bad breath, and you can work around this by just practicing proper oral care. You don't need to have them removed unless you regularly get tonsillitis.

nice smell or not?

Bro can you PM which ENT?

Cause I was thinking to bring my daughter to see an ENT in Sunway medical cuase like you say they have alot there and quite "famous"

You know at the end everything is about marketing / sales and profit right ?

You seems to have extraordinary fetish!

lol so unprofessional

Cost of living not cheap in kv u noe..

TS, can try reporting to medical board. They are the ones in charge of conduct, iinm

Had a bad experience with one of the ENT specialist from Sunway too few years back. Wife had bad sinusitis for couple of months. And this Dr just prescribe something not relevant and suggested surgery. He did scope and it was very painful. Can't remember the bill since this was covered by company insurance.
Went to Putrajaya GH to see the ENT specialist - the Dr did came scope, and she didn't feel a thing. And he immediately gave his diagnosis and prescribe a strong antibiotics. And she recovered within couple of weeks. And we only paid RM2!

not surprising really...
went to Tropicana..
they recommend me to do hearing test just for high pitch noise in my ear...
kena wallup with RM 600 for all + some B12 vitamins...
Not only that ENT did the nose and ear check for less than 1 minute...
Some ENT are not really worth it...

Last time I YOLO and use water bidet blast water straight at it. Not sure is the water dislodged it or the subsequent choking and coughing

Yet so many ppl recommend me to remove my tonsil

I was like if it not serve any purpose why does it been there at first place?

dr.koay?

sunway hospital memang like that.

My cousin broke her wrist, but they say nothing. siap exray etc also say nothing. just wrap using those bandage.

balik to her mom's place in kelantan. who is a doc, see the xray, can clearly see the hairline fracture.

damn bodoh right?

oh one more thing, they charged her rm44 per hour for waiting. so in the bill ada rm88 for 2 hours of waiting at the waiting room.

Sorry hear that, sometime see which doctor you see. I also kena it was learning doctor this doctor does alot of things I have wound on my left she does not want change my bandage until my next appointment then other doc change it for me so hard to walk with a open wound went walking without a bandage

pm you already, bro.

Tonsillectomy
A tonsillectomy is the surgical removal of tonsils. This procedure may be done using a scalpel, laser, or coblation device.

Performing this surgery for tonsil stones is controversial. Doctors who recommend tonsillectomy for tonsil stones tend to use it only for severe, chronic cases, and after all other methods have been tried without success.

if you dont mind. which GH did you refer in USJ? address?

lulz, must be the gag reflex.
I did tried the DIY method using chopstick, plastic spoon, the buttend of my tooth brush, but its easier said than done. The gag reflex is there for a reason. I do plan on getting waterpik. A lot of people recommend it for:
1) self cleaning for the teeth
2) works wonders removing tonsil stones via controlled water jet


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You must have told them you have a good insurance plan.

Hah that place, you plain fever pun they want to hold you overnight for 'observation'. If you agree pun you wont directly admitted, need to wait for other to check out from there then only you can get in..
Got check out check in time.

go gh don go prebet la

WOW.

in that case I wonder how such specialist can simply recommend that procedure for removal of tonsil stones?

I was seeing ths very famous Eunology near Sunway and the bill is Rm25k. I found out another friend do that same operation is only cost Rm1.5 at HUKM cheras

Looks expensive. I use toilet water bidet, aim roughly at the spot and blast full power nose also the water come out. Totally not recommended

specialist aiming for rm 8k op ? if that is ur friend, ask him change field better ...

It is the family doctor, his has good biz, now i know why so many ppl in his clinic day in day out.

USJ Taipan beside Pizza Hut, Klinik Lxx and Wxxx.

Can pm both drs names. Thanks

yes sunway medical are like that, i got simple case of gastric, go to see their specialist, straight away ask me to do scope from top and bottom. In the end nothing found, just normal gastric. Jilaka

thanks bro.!!

Maybe he recommended the op because there are many crypts on your tonsils that can be a nidus to stone formation.

/bersangka baik

can send in complain to MOH for unethical treatment

of course the specialist want the RM8k, but it's not right

Lesson of the day. Refer to GP first before cutting your own throat. These specialists are in private sector for a reason, money.

maybe. Specialist are suposed to see more than what normal doc would, with their better diagnostic equipment. my last ENT visit 9 years ago their put a scope down my throat luckily nothing malicious . rm200++ also, for peace of mind.

Do anyone knows what is the famous question specialist doctors usually asked?
Do you have medical insurance?
Which ins. companies?

Nope, there is nothing except a small tonsil stone.

No infection, no fever, no redness, nothing.

hahahah you're crazy

There's always the option of 2nd opinion

U shud hv just gone and seen a normal GP doctor.

Time is money for those specialist.

Why the F shud he spend his time when all hes gonna get is a measly 200plus from u when u can just do those insurance cases and get thousands in single procedure.

Anyway, all specialist are like that. They didnt spend so much to study only to get GP fees.

U want cheap and good, go PPUM. Most reasonable fees. Sunway, SDMC, Pantai all for u to claim insurance one

Can you also PM me the name of the specialist in Sunway.

Tqvm

This is not the point.

I do not mind paying the 8k op fee IF there is really necessary.

But if a doctor simply wanna push surgery for a simple and easy to treat medical condition, this is no ok, this is against the code of conducts they swear in before getting the license.

cholesteatoma

paid rm18k cash to a specialist hospital to remove it... few days after the operation, the doc said if u go to GH, max u will paid will be rm500.



but... since it related to ears/balancing etc... already makan a bit area near the brain/skull... tutup all the space inside left ear... rm18k...

GH you will have to wait for your turn. If not emergency they normally put you on waiting list.

After with TS, money is not the issue.

Surgery is always the last option

agreed to this...

but also depend on the case.

case above, the doc said: "if u go GH, case like yours, most probably operation within a week.. because already too teruk"

Yes this. My little sister had to opt for minor surgery since all other treatment doesnt work. Kpmc in kajang. Honest specialist as far as i know.

What is PPUM?

Pusat Perubatan University Malaya

yes for me
uusally i like to squash them between my index and thumb..then take a deep breath until it becomes to dry out...but that's jst me

private biasa la.. profit first lorh..

OK noted Thks

thats the latest model and a certified brand. If u google in lazada, there's plenty of OEM brand that serves the same function for far less.
Omg, a toilet bidet?! dude, I thought you meant something like a water dispenser bidet.

no insurance?

or insurance no cover?

Name of specialist doctor pls

That is the point. Specialist are there to recommend u the most safe and complete procedure. They dont care about the costs.

Its like gng to service ur Mercedes Benz at Merc and then say dont want to follow their procedure.

Lesson today :

If in doubt, get second opinion. If possible the third for assurance.

but my condition is just a simple one, there is no need for any surgery.

how can he straight recommend surgery for such a simple medical condition.

it is like asking some one to cut his leg due to some minor injury.

wow, 1 hour wait kena charge rm44. might as well go to GH. Pay 1 ringgit, the waiting is free. No matter how many hours.

This post has been edited by tupai: Jun 20 2018, 02:18 PM

noticed the specialist geting greedy and greedy.

most of them have lost their pro codes of conduct now a day.

hard to find honest and good specialist.

next thing u know jared loss 1 of his testical for nothing

Get second opinion is the best. Some time no need operation pun.

can pm the doctor name in Putrajaya GH?
went sunway ENT also. recommended surgery also.

the worst fucking doctor is this pediatrician in gleneagles. fucker only want to admit children for minor flus so can claim the insurance. IN fact, one of the early questions will be "do u have insurance?". And his cock strategy is to make mother cry like as if very serious so for sure will admit

totally agreed, this happened to my son as well.

the specialist and nurses even show me how to claim the medical insurance, you will need to stay in the medical center (doing nothing, just rest, play do anything you like) over few hours to qualify for the claim.

it is all money money money, no more real doctor.

This is how private hospitals make money to pay salary for doctors who are driving expensive BMW and Mercedes cars.

And always get second opinion from other doctors in other clinics or hospitals. Some doctors like to rip off patient's money.

This post has been edited by GOPI56: Jun 20 2018, 02:39 PM

Lul nipple was blocking

fucking true, last time went tropicana for my pain in stomach.
that cb ask the same furk question and when i show him my insurance card, fuck his eyes was bling bling with money sign

maybe harden when taking x-ray, sejuk

Which one though?

actually mine didnt even have to stay. only come everyday for drip antibiotics which was prob even not necessary!

apparently "good" cardiac pediatrician

For u is simple. For the specialist, its not. Besides, who is the specialist now? U or him?

There are alot of underlying factors in his decision making. What happens if it comes back, then u will also screw him.

Kevin,

I am very clear to him, i just want him to remove the tonsil stone for me, clear and simple.

the general doctor did it in 5 seconds.

And i know pretty sure what is tonsil stone.

This post has been edited by tkyong1: Jun 20 2018, 04:03 PM

If want a reliable specialist, go visit govt hospital.

Cheap and good

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Jun 20 2018, 04:09 PM

As i said earlier, if its such a simple problem, y go to specialist when GP can remove in 5seconds?

Dont u know u specialists time is worth more than triple the GP? I already said, specialist time is very expensive. U dont go to see a specialist and tell him what to do. He is under no obligation to listen to u.

Once u step into his room, U listen to him. If u dont want to listen to him, then go GP.

Thats is why specialists are called consultants. They consult you. Not take instructions from patient. Got it?

both management not same
the general med just remove the stone on your tonsil
the ent want to remove your tonsil to prevent future tonsil problem
some tonsil stone after remove, can recur if the 'pocket' is not resected/removed
so ofcourse there's different procedure, different specialties and different cost
the gen med cannot do the tonsillectomy, its not his specialties
specialties is not cheap

i have met few ENTs and not even one of them ask to do surgical to remove my tonsil as i keep having tonsilitis, their reason were as long as you dont have breathing problem, you no need to do removal surgery.

though it was my sinus problem that causing the tonsil to sore,once im able to manage my sinus problem, it have been quite sometime i didnt kena tonsilitis.

Kevin,

You miss-understand.

If i know GP can do, i will go straight to GP already in the 1st place.

The 1st GP i called, said they do not do, ask me to go ENT sure can do.

I am not complaint about the fee (please read my original post), I complaint the ENT took my money without removing the stone, and yet asked me to do surgery.

Got it.

You are right about it bro.

This is what i am trying to say.

Bro Keven seems miss-understand my point.

sorry bro Kevin, may be my post is not clear enough.

Bro zerorating point is the thing that i am trying to say.

Last time I did consult 3 different ent.
First One operate (8k), the second operate....
The third one, no need, Just use medicating nasal spray

Eeyerrrrr geli daooooo u

+1

consider this a lesson lor. next time can get multiple opinions even from general doc.

doc 1: I dont treat this, YOU MUST GO see specialist
doc 2: not sure, MAYBE YOU CAN see specialist
doc 3: not sure until I see you and check on the spot.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jun 20 2018, 04:46 PM

U already answered ur own question.

Which ent? Boycottttt