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MeToo
post Jun 20 2018, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Jun 20 2018, 11:58 AM)
Yet so many ppl recommend me to remove my tonsil

I was like if it not serve any purpose why does it been there at first place?
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Tonsillectomy
A tonsillectomy is the surgical removal of tonsils. This procedure may be done using a scalpel, laser, or coblation device.

Performing this surgery for tonsil stones is controversial. Doctors who recommend tonsillectomy for tonsil stones tend to use it only for severe, chronic cases, and after all other methods have been tried without success.
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jun 20 2018, 12:29 PM)
Hi guys,

Just wanna share my experience and unleash my anger about my simple medical experience with some specialist.

I had a simple and small "tonsil stones", i can see with my bare eye, but i could not get it out myself, so i went to Sunway Medical to seek consultation and treatment with one of their very re-known ENT Specialist.

During the consultation, the ENT confirmed is tonsil stone, but refused to remove it for me. Instead, he is asking me to do Tonsillectomy (in plain english, surgical removal of my tonsil). Quoted me RM8000, and keep asking me to do it. I requested him :why don't you just remove my tonsil stone first, then i decide the op in other time. But he refused. I end up walking out Sunway Medical with a RM209 medical bill without a real treatment. WTF.

Yesterday, i went to see general doctor in USJ, show him my tonsil stone, the general doctor took out a metal stick from his tool box, inserted to my mouth, and get the tonsil stone out in just 5 seconds. I walked out the clinic with a happy face and RM25 medical bill.

I just wondering what the hell the ENT has done. I have been thinking they are more interested to do lot of surgical op to get good money.

This is very unprofessional.

Yet, he is so famous in USJ and Sunway area.
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if you dont mind. which GH did you refer in USJ? address?
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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jun 20 2018, 11:36 AM)
Tonsil stones can easily be removed on your own - either you use a long object like a chopstick and apply pressure, or you wiggle around your tongue. Gargle with mouthwash first to loosen them and it should come out easily.

As far as the specialist's recommendation goes, removing your tonsils will prevent future irritation from tonsil stones. However, the tonsils exist for a reason - they catch dirt and prevent further infections such as sore throat from occurring. The worst tonsil stones do is give you bad breath, and you can work around this by just practicing proper oral care. You don't need to have them removed unless you regularly get tonsillitis.
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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Jun 20 2018, 11:58 AM)
Last time I YOLO and use water bidet blast water straight at it. Not sure is the water dislodged it or the subsequent choking and coughing
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lulz, must be the gag reflex.
I did tried the DIY method using chopstick, plastic spoon, the buttend of my tooth brush, but its easier said than done. The gag reflex is there for a reason. I do plan on getting waterpik. A lot of people recommend it for:
1) self cleaning for the teeth
2) works wonders removing tonsil stones via controlled water jet

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[url=[Malaysia Official Product] Waterpik Ultra Professional (Aquarius) WP660E2 https://www.lazada.com.my/products/malaysia...-s21042316.html]Waterpik WP660E2 Lazada Msia[/url]
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:09 PM

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You must have told them you have a good insurance plan.
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Hah that place, you plain fever pun they want to hold you overnight for 'observation'. If you agree pun you wont directly admitted, need to wait for other to check out from there then only you can get in..
Got check out check in time.
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:11 PM

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go gh don go prebet la
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 20 2018, 12:05 PM)
Tonsillectomy
A tonsillectomy is the surgical removal of tonsils. This procedure may be done using a scalpel, laser, or coblation device.

Performing this surgery for tonsil stones is controversial. Doctors who recommend tonsillectomy for tonsil stones tend to use it only for severe, chronic cases, and after all other methods have been tried without success.
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WOW.

in that case I wonder how such specialist can simply recommend that procedure for removal of tonsil stones?
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:15 PM

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I was seeing ths very famous Eunology near Sunway and the bill is Rm25k. I found out another friend do that same operation is only cost Rm1.5 at HUKM cheras



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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jun 20 2018, 12:08 PM)
lulz, must be the gag reflex.
I did tried the DIY method using chopstick, plastic spoon, the buttend of my tooth brush, but its easier said than done. The gag reflex is there for a reason. I do plan on getting waterpik. A lot of people recommend it for:
1) self cleaning for the teeth
2) works wonders removing tonsil stones via controlled water jet

Attached Image
[url=[Malaysia Official Product] Waterpik Ultra Professional (Aquarius) WP660E2 https://www.lazada.com.my/products/malaysia...-s21042316.html]Waterpik WP660E2 Lazada Msia[/url]
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Looks expensive. I use toilet water bidet, aim roughly at the spot and blast full power nose also the water come out. Totally not recommended laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Jun 20 2018, 11:36 AM)
First day engage specialist meh?

Of course they wanna chop you kao kao la.. They pay so much and suffer so much to get the specialist ma.. If not how to live up to the doctors lifestyle
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specialist aiming for rm 8k op ? if that is ur friend, ask him change field better ...
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QUOTE(NyOx @ Jun 20 2018, 12:06 PM)
if you dont mind. which GH did you refer in USJ? address?
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It is the family doctor, his has good biz, now i know why so many ppl in his clinic day in day out.

USJ Taipan beside Pizza Hut, Klinik Lxx and Wxxx.
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jun 20 2018, 11:29 AM)
Hi guys,

Just wanna share my experience and unleash my anger about my simple medical experience with some specialist.

I had a simple and small "tonsil stones", i can see with my bare eye, but i could not get it out myself, so i went to Sunway Medical to seek consultation and treatment with one of their very re-known ENT Specialist.

During the consultation, the ENT confirmed is tonsil stone, but refused to remove it for me. Instead, he is asking me to do Tonsillectomy (in plain english, surgical removal of my tonsil). Quoted me RM8000, and keep asking me to do it. I requested him :why don't you just remove my tonsil stone first, then i decide the op in other time. But he refused. I end up walking out Sunway Medical with a RM209 medical bill without a real treatment. WTF.

Yesterday, i went to see general doctor in USJ, show him my tonsil stone, the general doctor took out a metal stick from his tool box, inserted to my mouth, and get the tonsil stone out in just 5 seconds. I walked out the clinic with a happy face and RM25 medical bill.

I just wondering what the hell the ENT has done. I have been thinking they are more interested to do lot of surgical op to get good money.

This is very unprofessional.

Yet, he is so famous in USJ and Sunway area.
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Can pm both drs names. Thanks
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:20 PM

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yes sunway medical are like that, i got simple case of gastric, go to see their specialist, straight away ask me to do scope from top and bottom. In the end nothing found, just normal gastric. Jilaka
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jun 20 2018, 01:17 PM)
It is the family doctor, his has good biz, now i know why so many ppl in his clinic day in day out.

USJ Taipan beside Pizza Hut, Klinik Lxx and Wxxx.
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thanks bro.!!
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Maybe he recommended the op because there are many crypts on your tonsils that can be a nidus to stone formation.

/bersangka baik
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can send in complain to MOH for unethical treatment

of course the specialist want the RM8k, but it's not right
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:32 PM

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Lesson of the day. Refer to GP first before cutting your own throat. These specialists are in private sector for a reason, money.


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post Jun 20 2018, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ Jun 20 2018, 01:30 PM)
Maybe he recommended the op because there are many crypts on your tonsils that can be a nidus to stone formation.

/bersangka baik
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maybe. Specialist are suposed to see more than what normal doc would, with their better diagnostic equipment. my last ENT visit 9 years ago their put a scope down my throat luckily nothing malicious . rm200++ also, for peace of mind.





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post Jun 20 2018, 12:37 PM

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Do anyone knows what is the famous question specialist doctors usually asked?
Do you have medical insurance?
Which ins. companies?
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post Jun 20 2018, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ Jun 20 2018, 12:30 PM)
Maybe he recommended the op because there are many crypts on your tonsils that can be a nidus to stone formation.

/bersangka baik
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Nope, there is nothing except a small tonsil stone.

No infection, no fever, no redness, nothing.

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