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TSdjandrew
post Jun 19 2018, 09:27 AM, updated 5y ago

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Hi guys as per title im figuring out which to choose, in my list for air cooler is (Noctua NH-D15) meanwhile for AIO cooler is (fractal design celsius S24 or Corsair H100I v2).
my mind keeps telling me to go for air cooler somehow. currently owning a cooler master AIO with 1 fan radiator and it perform so crappy! on my i5 8600k idle 38c default speed no OC......
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post Jun 19 2018, 03:02 PM

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Hi, those idle temps are OK, what are your load temps? I had a Hyper 212 Evo with stock 8700K and it works absolutely ok.
Are you trying to OC? If yes, what speeds are you trying to get? is your 1 fan AIO too loud?
if you hit your target OC speed, and load temps are OK, why not keep it?
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post Jun 19 2018, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(weilikler @ Jun 19 2018, 03:02 PM)
Hi, those idle temps are OK, what are your load temps? I had a Hyper 212 Evo with stock 8700K and it works absolutely ok.
Are you trying to OC? If yes, what speeds are you trying to get? is your 1 fan AIO too loud?
if you hit your target OC speed, and load temps are OK, why not keep it?
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my load temperature test with prime95 small fft test on stock non OC reading is about 68c (4.3ghz boost),
if play games etc one hour check back about 57c - 60c max (all in room non air cond temperature) with aircond wont see any much different maybe drop about 2c differences. my casing only have 1 front 140mm fan suck in.
my current 1 fan AIO is "cooler master lite 120"... not to say very noisy on full load.
i plan to OC a little but currently dare not cause have tested before on 4.7ghz prime95 small fft 5 minutes and the max temp on 1 of the core hits 83c, not even really start to final tweak vcore yet just roughly 1.27v, tried 1.26v failed prime test less than 5 min.
as i know AIO will gets more hotter after longer run this is only just the beginning so i just stop it lol. my past experience with air cooler so far seems like air cooler temperature is more constant and easy to catch of hold, also cooldown faster compare to AIO.
Im not familiar with these new intel 8th gen 14nm processor, as my last build was 8 years back intel Quad 9400 finally put to sleep last week sad.gif... that old processor idle at 32c so maybe im still not used to this 8th gen 6 core proc idle behavior...

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post Jun 19 2018, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Jun 19 2018, 02:41 PM)
thx for the info bro, seems like definitely wont regret tho noctua.
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post Jun 19 2018, 04:24 PM

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go for noctua D15 as many people recommended it.. between air vs aio coolers, well i'd go for air as in my case, i do a little oc'ing while love to maintain a steady temp with my cpu. currently using H7 quad-lumi, cheap & efficient..very satisfied with the performance so far, near-silent noise level when full load..temp very² nice, at 58-62C when full load..
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post Jun 19 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(RoyRF @ Jun 19 2018, 04:24 PM)
go for noctua D15 as many people recommended it.. between air vs aio coolers, well i'd go for air as in my case, i do a little oc'ing while love to maintain a steady temp with my cpu. currently using H7 quad-lumi, cheap & efficient..very satisfied with the performance so far, near-silent noise level when full load..temp very² nice, at 58-62C when full load..
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agree with u bro, i'm more concern towards long run and reliability issue, after 1 or 2 years for air coolers just take it out and wash the dust away. will get the noctua D15S for more better clearance height instead of D15 cause my casing seems very risky touching the side panel maybe couldn't close. By the way my casing is "be quiet silent base 600"
Anyway saw lowyat have selling "be quiet dark rock 3" "be quiet dark rock TF" air cooler, seems like not bad too, will google about it more first only decide smile.gif

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Jun 19 2018, 04:44 PM)
agree with u bro, i'm more concern towards long run and reliability issue, after 1 or 2 years for air coolers just take it out and wash the dust away. will get the noctua D15S for more better clearance height instead of D15 cause my casing seems very risky touching the side panel maybe couldn't close.
Anyway saw lowyat have selling "be quiet dark rock 3" air cooler, seems like not bad too, will google about it more first only decide smile.gif
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yes, if it fits your budget, noctua will not disappoint.. thumbsup.gif

dark rock pro 3 is also one of the good performer for air coolers out there..but i personally chose H7 quad lumi cos it's simple to install & have RGB lightings, price wise it fits my budget as well biggrin.gif
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post Jun 19 2018, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Jun 19 2018, 04:44 PM)
agree with u bro, i'm more concern towards long run and reliability issue, after 1 or 2 years for air coolers just take it out and wash the dust away. will get the noctua D15S for more better clearance height instead of D15 cause my casing seems very risky touching the side panel maybe couldn't close. By the way my casing is "be quiet silent base 600"
Anyway saw lowyat have selling "be quiet dark rock 3" "be quiet dark rock TF" air cooler, seems like not bad too, will google about it more first only decide smile.gif
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yeah man. that's the reason i got the D15S as well. tongue.gif
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post Jun 19 2018, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(weilikler @ Jun 19 2018, 05:26 PM)
yeah man. that's the reason i got the D15S as well.  tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif how is it so far using D15S? the weight very heavy right, about 1kg. can u feel it stressing the motherboard? cooling performance very great?
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post Jun 19 2018, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Jun 19 2018, 05:29 PM)
rclxms.gif how is it so far using D15S? the weight very heavy right, about 1kg. can u feel it stressing the motherboard? cooling performance very great?
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loving it. the mounting is very easy to work with. at first i was also not comfortable with the weight, but the steel back plate provides adequate support for the heft i guess, dont feel it stressing the motherboard.
Reason i chose D15s over the D15 is compatibility/future compatibility(less headache), 1kg instead of 1.3kg, and difference of 2 fans is like 1-2c.

Cooling is phenomenal, it's one of the best air cooling solution on the market. easily 10-15c cooler than my hyper212, i think? i dont have the exact numbers because when i run 4.8Ghz 1.2v on hyper 212, all cores were like 85c, sometimes spiking to near 90c. so i didnt bother to continue.
now i'm running 4.7Ghz 1.18v all cores. 24c air-con, realbench stress test all cores 75-79c. maybe i'll delid in 1-2 years time to try higher clocks laugh.gif
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post Jun 19 2018, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(weilikler @ Jun 19 2018, 06:00 PM)
loving it. the mounting is very easy to work with. at first i was also not comfortable with the weight, but the steel back plate provides adequate support for the heft i guess, dont feel it stressing the motherboard.
Reason i chose D15s over the D15 is compatibility/future compatibility(less headache), 1kg instead of 1.3kg, and difference of 2 fans is like 1-2c.

Cooling is phenomenal, it's one of the best air cooling solution on the market. easily 10-15c cooler than my hyper212, i think? i dont have the exact numbers because when i run 4.8Ghz 1.2v on hyper 212, all cores were like 85c, sometimes spiking to near 90c. so i didnt bother to continue.
now i'm running 4.7Ghz 1.18v all cores. 24c air-con, realbench stress test all cores 75-79c. maybe i'll delid in 1-2 years time to try higher clocks  laugh.gif
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thats a very good temperature with it 4.7ghz @ 1,18v, sounds like a good chip, very low voltage at 4.7 thumbup.gif thx for the info man
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post Jun 19 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Jun 19 2018, 07:32 PM)
thats a very good temperature with it 4.7ghz @ 1,18v, sounds like a good chip, very low voltage at 4.7  thumbup.gif thx for the info man
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yeah.. but i need 1.22/1.23v for 4.8 Ghz else prime95 AVX will fail in ~15mins
anyway once you've decided on your cooler, buy it and enjoy the overclocking biggrin.gif
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post Jun 25 2019, 11:16 PM

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My Corsair H110 AIO have multiple corroded holes on the radiator channel after just 5 years usage. I'm so lucky the liquid isn't spill to my hardware.

In conclusion i will never go back to AIO especially those with copper block and aluminium radiator as this combi is prone galvanic corrosion.

Anyway, just change mine to EKWB P280 custom loop starter kit. Won't consider air cooler as well since all the surrouding components that in the air path will be very dusty after some usage period.
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post Jun 27 2019, 02:40 PM

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as a lot of people mention here, AIO is not 100% safe compared to Air cooler. That's the down side.

it really depends on your expectation, i'm using AIO myself but i expect it to only last for good 3years maximum and have to be replaced or else i know it will fail sooner or later.

when it comes to performance , AIO will give you great results. This is the reason why i switch to AIO even thou i know it is risky, i dropped for 70c to 45-50c max with AIO compared to air cooler. Which really helps a lot for gaming and video rendering
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post Jun 27 2019, 05:19 PM

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post Jun 28 2019, 09:00 AM

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1 year already since my first post, using corsair AIO H150i 360mm so far so good the temperature really still the same cool like the first day not even 1c difference, and very very less dust. 3 or 4 years will change again. keeps my delidded 8600k at 4.80ghz oc 62c max with very heavy task or gaming etc...very silent and zero rpm fan mode..the fan usually stays idle unless gaming only starts to turn on...

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QUOTE(djandrew @ Jun 28 2019, 09:00 AM)
1 year already since my first post, using corsair AIO H150i 360mm so far so good the temperature really still the same cool like the first day not even 1c difference, and very very less dust. 3 or 4 years will change again. keeps my delidded 8600k at 4.80ghz oc 62c max with very heavy task or gaming etc...very silent and zero rpm fan mode..the fan usually stays idle unless gaming only starts to turn on...
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Hi, may i know what casing you use? And which position you mount your radiator, top or front? What is your idle temperature?
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post Jul 13 2020, 04:54 PM

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I have bad experience with AIO especially corsair h80 and h80i v2 (rma from h80)

1st h80 (usage 2012-2016) rma due to ravving pump and the temperature didnt drop and maintain 75++
the rma h80iv2(2016-2020) die last week when the temperature sudden spike 80++ and the radiator didnt transfer heat to radiator

After that incident, I go back to air cooling and might try to avoid corsair brand if I wanted to go for AIO solution

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