If your purpose is a good people mover with great fuel economy and performance even when hauling full capacity, no brainer, Kia Grand Carnival is the best choice. That turbodiesel with all that torque is no joke.

https://youtu.be/Vb3X7MLE0Bc

If you need to bergaya for raya, then no brainer buy the Toyota Alphard/Vellfire. Look like VVIP.

Edit: in the video he compares it to the Honda odyssey and the Toyota Tarago (Estima’s name in Australia)

This post has been edited by Jason: Jun 18 2018, 01:01 AM