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babygrand123
post Aug 28 2020, 10:38 AM

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It happen to me before so no harm to let them background check !
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post Aug 28 2020, 04:22 PM

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Thanks for this guide. From my experience, one employer usually tell me that they will call my referee stated in the employment form to find out what kind of worker am I.
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post Aug 29 2020, 02:31 AM

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Some companies also doing Social Media Background Check. Careful what you write on Lowyat haha.
https://applya.com/employment-screening/how...ck-on-yourself/
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post Aug 29 2020, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(daisiesdontdoit92 @ Aug 29 2020, 02:31 AM)
Some companies also doing Social Media Background Check. Careful what you write on Lowyat haha.
https://applya.com/employment-screening/how...ck-on-yourself/
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How do they know if use different email & username?
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QUOTE(fapman @ Aug 29 2020, 03:45 AM)
How do they know if use different email & username?
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I'm sure they say that's trade secret, but one professional background search company wrote this on its website:

"Most nefarious individuals are adept at covering their tracks on social media. Their favorite trick is having multiple accounts under different names. Without detailed investigations, you can fail to detect the truth about them."

"At xxxxxxxxx, we have the tools for conducting exhaustive social media background checks. We cross-check all information across social media platforms and even non-social media sources. In the end, we provide you with a comprehensive review of an applicant." https://crimcheck.net/services/social-media...kground-checks/

Also when you sign up for one website you probably associate that with another email or phone # you use. They might connected together.
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post Oct 2 2020, 01:05 PM

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Hi, I feel so dumb now. Perhaps some may think this not ethical of me, regardless just wanna ask, how can an institute/ organisation tell if an individual is employed or jobless? I wanna enroll into a course but the course is free only to jobless individuals, I didn't think about that and declaredt that I'm employed, so can't get it for free. Felling so stupid bcz no way the institute can check right? 😭😭😭

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post Oct 2 2020, 02:29 PM

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I’m just curious how your employer can do a background check on you about your previous employment. What kind of info they can dig about you. Can they check whether you have been terminated from your job or resign? I’m curious because all these under PDPA. So, I’m not sure how far they can go in terms of background checking.
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post Oct 4 2020, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(cubicc @ Jun 15 2018, 01:42 AM)

Q2: Who and what does the future employer usually prompted when they have come in contact with my previous employment companies?
Ans: They will usually contact the Human Resource dept of your company or the director of the company (if it is a small company without HR dept) to verify your employment history as below;
- Base salary and allowances
- Employment period
- Character and work ethics
- Resignation/termination
- Any restriction on future employment set by the previous employer
- Will your previous company reemploy you in future?


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I feel like this is rather "mixed" tbh. On some employment forms when they hire you, there's a part where they asked if they can contact your previous employers (for any purposes regarding your work period with them). You can choose to tick the "no" option but who knows if they will or will not call them up. Still unsure about this tbh.
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QUOTE(fapman @ Oct 2 2020, 02:29 PM)
I’m just curious how your employer can do a background check on you about your previous employment. What kind of info they can dig about you. Can they check whether you have been terminated from your job or resign? I’m curious because all these under PDPA. So, I’m not sure how far they can go in terms of background checking.
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Exactly right? My last company wasn't able to pay our salaries in all honesty. But they want all of us to submit resignation letters so they don't have to pay severance benefits.

I told my new, current boss about this but I don't see what's the use of it when he claims that he's "good friends with my ex-boss and were ex-classmates since middle school". Its just him implying he can call him anytime and ask, even if they are out for limteh and whatever. They can always drop it during "casual talks".

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CtashKies
post Oct 20 2020, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(CtashKies @ Oct 2 2020, 02:05 PM)
Hi, I feel so dumb now. Perhaps some may think this not ethical of me, regardless just wanna ask, how can an institute/ organisation tell if an individual is employed or jobless? I wanna enroll into a course but the course is free only to jobless individuals, I didn't think about that and declaredt that I'm employed, so can't get it for free. Felling so stupid bcz no way the institute can check right? 😭😭😭
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Hi guys, I mean can an organization or institute tell if an individual is employed or jobless? If yes, they check from where? EIS? Any sifu or industry expert can enlighten me on this? Thanks cry.gif
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post Jan 3 2021, 05:47 PM

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Hi, what if I wish to set-up a startup company, and I wish to keep it as a secret from my employer? The startup company does not operate in the same field as my employer company, so there is no conflict of interest. It is required for all employee to disclose any side business to the company though, but I would like to keep it as a secret, would like to keep a very low profile and also wouldn't like to answer any question.

Can the employer check if I am the shareholder of any company or if I own any company through any channel?
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post Jan 3 2021, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(ShuaiDoi @ Jan 3 2021, 05:47 PM)
Hi, what if I wish to set-up a startup company, and I wish to keep it as a secret from my employer? The startup company does not operate in the same field as my employer company, so there is no conflict of interest. It is required for all employee to disclose any side business to the company though, but I would like to keep it as a secret, would like to keep a very low profile and also wouldn't like to answer any question.

Can the employer check if I am the shareholder of any company or if I own any company through any channel?
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Of course can check. Just buy SSM infor for 25 already can know who owner or director
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post Jan 4 2021, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jan 3 2021, 10:41 PM)
Of course can check. Just buy SSM infor for 25 already can know who owner or director
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But that is if the employer knows my company name isn't it?
Search SSM for company name and receive info for that particular company details.
Can the ssm search individual name and check if that individual is the owner or director of any company?
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post Jan 4 2021, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(ShuaiDoi @ Jan 3 2021, 05:47 PM)
Hi, what if I wish to set-up a startup company, and I wish to keep it as a secret from my employer? The startup company does not operate in the same field as my employer company, so there is no conflict of interest. It is required for all employee to disclose any side business to the company though, but I would like to keep it as a secret, would like to keep a very low profile and also wouldn't like to answer any question.

Can the employer check if I am the shareholder of any company or if I own any company through any channel?
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How long have you been with this company?
If you have been there for quite some time, you can ignore if there’s no obligation for you to declare your side business to your employer.
But if you’re in a banking line, be very careful though & they might find about it coz they will check all of their employees background thoroughly either new or old employees.
They’ll know if you are a shareholder in another company or you have a case in court.
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post Jan 5 2021, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(fapman @ Jan 4 2021, 09:48 PM)
How long have you been with this company?
If you have been there for quite some time, you can ignore if there’s no obligation for you to declare your side business to your employer.
But if you’re in a banking line, be very careful though & they might find about it coz they will check all of their employees background thoroughly either new or old employees.
They’ll know if you are a shareholder in another company or you have a case in court.
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How do they know if I am a shareholder of a company? Is there a channel they can find out?
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post Jan 5 2021, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(ShuaiDoi @ Jan 5 2021, 02:51 PM)
How do they know if I am a shareholder of a company? Is there a channel they can find out?
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For banks, I’m not sure but my sis-in-law works in banks & she got call up by her employer regarding her business partnership and they require her to remove her name from SSM.
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post Jan 5 2021, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(fapman @ Jan 5 2021, 06:23 PM)
For banks, I’m not sure but my sis-in-law works in banks & she got call up by her employer regarding her business partnership and they require her to remove her name from SSM.
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Wow, that is some serious shit.
Perhaps her business partnership is operating in the same field as her employer? Does her business have something to do with credit line? and hence there is a conflict of interest?
If not, what gives the the right to force your sis in law to remove her name from SSM?
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QUOTE(ShuaiDoi @ Jan 5 2021, 10:12 PM)
Wow, that is some serious shit.
Perhaps her business partnership is operating in the same field as her employer? Does her business have something to do with credit line? and hence there is a conflict of interest?
If not, what gives the the right to force your sis in law to remove her name from SSM?
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Not in the same line. Totally different industry.
Some companies especially banks have a very strict guidelines for their employees. It’s simple. If you want to work with them, do as they say. If you still wanna continue with your side business, you may as well please to resign. I believe it’s written in the black & white documents when you accept the job offer. That’s why they have the rights to require this kind of thing since you already accepted their t&c to work there. And nothing much you can do if you are fired from the job even if you take it up to the court.
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Hi can anyone pls help me to answer this:

1)When usually the background check will be done? Before the company give the offer letter or after?
2)What if I lie during my application e.g. I put my current salary high
3)Can future employer check about my current salary/epf record. Or when I joined them, can they track my past epf record?
4)Can my HR disclose my payslip if future employer contact my current employer?
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QUOTE(phil- @ Feb 15 2021, 03:56 PM)
Hi can anyone pls help me to answer this:

1)When usually the background check will be done? Before the company give the offer letter or after?
[Larry] Yes, your employer may perform background check on you before or after offer letter.

2)What if I lie during my application e.g. I put my current salary high
[Larry] You must be able to prove to the employer that you are worth the salary you are asking for.
Yes, the employer is able to request for your pay slip from your previous employment, however it is up to you to decide whether to disclose your previous pay information.

My advise, don't lie.


3)Can future employer check about my current salary/epf record. Or when I joined them, can they track my past epf record?
[Larry]The answer to your question is written on the 1st page of this thread.

4)Can my HR disclose my payslip if future employer contact my current employer?
[Larry]The answer to your question is written on the 1st page of this thread.
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Answer above.

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