Sounds like a shit company.
It’s better you left that organisation before it become a cancer in your life.

This post has been edited by fapman: Sep 27 2019, 04:26 PM

Why CCRIS or CTOS is being checked for employment non related to banking sector.

How does this affect hiring process? People with bad credit score can't get a job or something?

This post has been edited by Vigilant: Oct 7 2019, 04:50 PM

Good topic here to discuss but seems like the TS is away?
By the way, any idea how to do a criminal background check such as their record, summon or even have crimical background as I'm trying to hire few lorry driver to work

I tot HR usually can check with the authority? But I'm not sure how they did it.

this
https://www.blueumbrella.com/

This one standard too high, we just small LLP company anyway thanks for offering

Probably will do a manual search with government agency such as

MYEG - Summon
Bankruptcy - Malaysia Department of Insolvency
Drug Abuse/Health Problem - Request simple medical check up
Criminal record - PDRM but how are we gonna do it manually?

* Just position for lorry driver

There was an user (ipohmali) who would call the HR of your current company to do a background check.. and of course, informing your HR that you are looking for a new job.

Be careful of companies as such.

That guy ipohmali70. My tered enough to make him abandon his 6 star 11 year account. Guess my tered that day too much for her to bear. Kinda sad now as i miss his HR advice

This post has been edited by kesvani: Apr 8 2020, 02:28 PM

Ya, though most of his advice was nonsense - he was a good at keeping the “jobs and career” segment alive.

But missed seeing him argue with fellow /k

Hi Expert here. Would like to ask.. in my previous 12 years of experiences in MNV never encounter to sign any PDPA before or after gotten the job. Right now , I go into a new MNC company for an interview and the interview went pretty well. Thus , finally this new company HR asking him to sign a PDPA form from the background screening company to check on my backgrounds. My questions is - I am not feeling well to allow them to check on mu background even I have nothing to hide.

My questions is - if I refuse to sign PDPA. Based on HR point of view , I will directly been drop from the new job offering ? Please share your expertise . Thanks.

In my POV, an ethical way to conduct a background check is when the consent is attained/PDPA form is signed OR prior to job offer. By contacting the HR (unless the candidate actually gave the consent in the form but you know most of the time, candidates are not usually aware of the consequences) when the candidate is still serving the company, it doesn't seem like an ethical decision. It's just not right to indirectly break someone's rice bowl before the putting an offer on the table.

Not an expert but I think it is not an issue for you to sign the PDPA form since you have nothing to hide. So why do you feel a sense of reluctance?

This post has been edited by Bearberry: Jun 9 2020, 09:08 PM

Some companies especially financial institutions are required to do a background check, this is a regulation from Bank Negara.
For some financial institutions even manpower companies may have to submit background checks for the contractors they provide.
They will then have your personal data after the background check which means they are again required by law to ensure that there is signed PDPA.

Unfortunately if you refuse then you cannot be hired. Again this is from the perspective of financial institutions in Malaysia only

Yes , For FIS ( Finance Company ) they have regulated the compulsory of background checking but in MNC it is first time requires that. If they confirm do offer job then they can do the screening after I joined but before gotten any offer it seems not right. haha!

yes, from HR you are not willing to sign mean u have something to hide. that's what they will think.

because it deviates from their standard of employees signing it. and background check is a must for them.

they will do standard background check, so dont worry if got nothing to hide

So it was you that exposed his a**? What a pompous douche. I respect the way he build up his business without a degree but maintaining it as a sole proprietorship, resting on his laurels and thinking he knows it all with only a DOSH Competent Persons certification and taking out his insecurities on interns doesnt strike me as leader material for me. Hope youre reading this Ipohmali.


I believe that companies did discreetly do a background check before the PDPA was enforced. Now that the Act is already enforced, MNCs are obligated to inform you I guess. Smaller companies might still sneakily do it behind your back. BTW if you are going to give consent may I suggest privatising your social media postings if you have not done so. I know a lady who told me the service provider her co engages actually screens social media activity.

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 10 2020, 01:03 PM

Exactly... but even without PDPA, people in the industry can easily find out your work history. Those who mention no need to tell the work history will definitely not be hired in Finance sector. Trustworthiness and integrity is the most important there.

I see no reason why as there is a need to hide work history. You may not want to reveal all, but sufficient info needs to be given. If I were the employer, I will definitely strike out people who are reluctant to provide job history. It's likely that person is fake.

Having said that, asking for EPF is really too much. Financial history is a complete different story. I personally disagree with the practice, but given that the industry is practicing it, the best one can do imo is to negotiate not based on it. Ultimately, HR will still request for it for "documentation purpose".

lately i interviewed with a company, and they use 3rd party to check my background (on criminal)

and i need to sign a letter for them to do it

i understand your feeling cos i experience some too

there is this company wanan do background check but on criminal part, ccris and ctos which i am okay