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davidletterboyz
post Jun 12 2018, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jun 10 2018, 02:21 AM)
Here is some review, i have driven vw polo for 1 month while my polo gti in service center.
Pros:
1)more solid than jap car
2) quite spacious for 4 people
3) automatic window for all 4 door
4) cruise control

cons:
1)high service cost for this segment
2) roof still sound like milo tin
3) engine quite sluggish. If put S mode, it should be better. This is caused by too long gearing, for too small cc car..
4) Parts not long lasting. Proven by my colleague 1.6 polo. His ecu bracket broken & arm rest broken. Suspension, 60k km already got hissing sound. All not covered by warranty. VW said it is wear and tear part.
depends what u consider high cost?

normal service at service center, minimum rm600-700. Major service, can reach 1xxx. Service interval is 15,000km or 1 year..
VW is worth for daily usage if u dont mind cost of service and depreciation. The comfort and safety quite good ... 1 bad thing is warranty claim procedure, their process is very slow.. and some service center have reputation of being irresponsible.
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Been driving the 1.6 MPI model for 6 months. Agreed with what you said except that the gear ratio (is that what you mean?). Actually the gear ratio for 1st gear is extremely short, 2nd to 5th are moderately short, 6th is damn long. The reason the car is sluggish in D mode is because it tends to upshift too quickly resulting in low rpm low torque most of the time.

Nowadays they have 3-year free service or 45k km whichever comes first. RMA procedure is really slow and consume lots of time to go SC.

IMHO, the strength of this car is actually the chassis, in terms of welding and manufacturing process. The chassis is notably stronger than most Japanese cars (check Honda CKD welding). Not only that, the ride is also firmer due to the chassis rigidity.

However, for VW CKD models, some materials have been removed/changed. For example, the sound proofing material is totally absent in the boot area. The roof is only filled with cardbox material, that's why it sounds like tin kosong. CBU VW Polo had soft touch plastic.

The fuel consumption isn't that great to be honest. For town drive, no traffic jam but lots of braking due to lots of speed bumps (campus and housing area), the FC is not much difference than my old Persona Elegance: ~10km/l. However, for highway drive, it's much better due to more gears. I think Honda City still wins by ~15% for FC. Vento TSI on the other hand can easily get 20% better FC than 1.6 MPI.

QUOTE(soulmad @ Jun 10 2018, 09:50 PM)
jst drove 1 today
it's high torque and very fast reach 100
cabin size like myvi but very solid built and lower noise
steering smaller easier to operate
have some driving leisure
tyre bit bumpy maybe need change other brand

but I find when the speed reduce the transmission sometime till sluggish abit not sure it's common?
aircond is good

interior is mch like proton but better thought on the design
where button are easily accessible
I would recommend get a used car if u plan to get extra car
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The one you drove is TSI model? For the MPI model, the torque is not high actually. Coupled with the conservative GB mapping, it's actually very hard to overtake cars without changing to S mode or Shiftronic.

Aircond is not bad but nowhere near local cars' ability IMHO. Myvi cools the cabin way faster.
davidletterboyz
post Jun 13 2018, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2018, 11:30 AM)
I cannot stand the car in D mode. I almost always slot it into S whenever I drive and give fuel economy the middle finger.

If you are not too demanding, it can be abit of a hoot to drive it around corners. The chassis is definitely a cut above the Toyotas and Hondas peers.
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Hi dares. I did PM you six months ago before I bought the car, if you still remember haha.
Last month, I was loaned a courtesy car, a beaten up Polo Sedan 1.6 MPI which was an ex demo car. Guess what? It wasn't as sluggish as our Vento. In fact I could drive all the way with D mode. I suspect there are more than one ECU firmware versions out there.
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post Jun 13 2018, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 13 2018, 01:58 PM)
Er...would like some enlightenment on why hissing absorber sound is an issue. My car less than 40k also have this sound and the handling still the same.
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Mine less than 5k km already hissing haha. But only during cold weather/temperature. Handling still ok.

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2018, 02:06 PM)
Oh so you went with the TSI Vento? How is it?

You got loaned a courtesy car so am I correct to assume it got tersadai in SC? sweat.gif
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No. I went for the MPI. Tersadai once because of broken CD player. Yes, you heard it right. VW SC's SOP for RMA is #(*$(*@(*@(. Need to diagnose once, second time to confirm which part, then only wait for parts and install. Three times at least for simple stuff like that. Seriously, even Proton is better in this front.

Basically, most Indian sourced wear and tear parts have very short lifespan and not covered by warranty. Another common issue is the disc brake material, would wrap easily when drastic change in temp. Again, worse than Proton here.


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post Jun 13 2018, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2018, 06:20 PM)
I already warned u in PM right?  laugh.gif car tersadai in SC 1 week to claim battery
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Ah well... I like the chassis and ride (vs other mainstream). But too bad the power delivery is lethargic. If given a chance to choose again, I should have bought a 208 Puretech and keep the old car. tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2018, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2018, 06:54 PM)
Pijot SC and VW abang adik je lah. Parts also don't last lol.

My rule of thumb of owning a European car....keep a spare local or jap car  biggrin.gif
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That's what I mean. Since they both are abang adik, might as well choose the higher tech and better designed one lol. 208 Puretech has a modern engine and much better FC.
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post Jun 14 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2018, 11:34 AM)
I am more afraid of pijots than VW. Even the 208 4AT 1.6NA also have issues.

But then so does the Vento. Maybe because I am abit more familiar with VW so I am not so averse to it.
Vento and City weight not much difference. The Vento 1.2 TSI has very noticeable turbo lag, which is why it feels so sluggish off the line. Heck I even felt the lag when downshifting to overtake.
I find the Vento interior fit and finish to be better than Vios and City (especially City). But the design is uncle-ish like most VWs lah.
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Hmmmmmmmmm unfortunately my Vento interior fit is not good. Rattling after a few weeks lol. I remember my Persona was rattle free for the first 3 years!
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post Jun 14 2018, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jun 14 2018, 12:13 PM)
Pugeout service center all hopeless... at least vw, some can pakai....
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Hahaha that's what I heard. But then VW SC is already damn lousy!
That's why I said I should have kept my previous car as a backup and get a 208 Puretech. tongue.gif "Adventurous" lol.
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post Jun 14 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(lazbuy85 @ Jun 14 2018, 12:01 PM)
Vento / Polo Sedan 1.6NA if drive gently (linear speed - uncle style driving) still ok. Remember, this model is a city car and not like Golf for spirit driving. Like most of Conti cars, pick up is slow and u will feel 1-2 seconds delay before pick up from 1st gear.
vento kerb weight is 1182kg while VIOS and City is almost like 1100kg only. City and VIOS might have better pick up speed from 1st gear.
Interior wise like most of VW cars with simple and mature finishing. You wont find those fancy shinning blinking gadgets like in City and VIOS.
In terms of interior space, Almera has the biggest interior space. City is at 2nd. Vento is on par with VIOS with bigger seat cushions.

Stay away from VW or any conti brands if you are really concern on RV and spare parts cost & availability. Nowadays, you can find a lot of conti dealers in the market especially Klang Valley with much cheaper maintenance cost (using genuine parts) compare to authorized SC.
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Actually it's not the 1st gear which is the issue. If you go manual mode and launch the car, it's actually not bad because the 1st gear ratio is damn short. The issue with this Vento is, it will switch to 2nd gear very quickly in D mode. Can say the 1st gear is only used to get the car moving from stationary. doh.gif By 60km/h it's already in 6th gear.
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post Jun 14 2018, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2018, 01:13 PM)
Stick it into S mode and press the throttle je lah.

Speaking of which, the throttle lag is also quite noticeable....almost Campro level kind of lag if not worse.
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Yes. Just a tad better than Campro IAFM only lol.
What kind of FC are you getting with your Vento?
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post Jun 14 2018, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2018, 05:23 PM)
It's my sister-in-law's car, she drives to KL to work everyday....averaging 12km/l I think.

She pump RON97 yo  laugh.gif
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Fuh...elitist haha.
Mine averaging ~10km/l only. doh.gif

 

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