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post Aug 13 2007, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 12 2007, 04:08 PM)
Since when Blizzard copy the design of Hydralisk?It was made by Blizzard for SC1 and Blizzard include it in WC3's World Editor.

Ice Frog just use it in that stupid map and Ice Frog is not suppose to get anything.
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post Aug 13 2007, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Aug 13 2007, 11:29 AM)
Remember the movie scene where a few marines went to a station to bomb it?
There is one marine removed his headgear to drink coke, then the hydralisk mucous dripped on his head and he went screaming in pain.

I guess hydralisk's mucous is acidic.
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you watched too much aliens? his head got ripped off, of course hes gonna scream. well actually he didnt get to scream much either, cuz well, he lost his head.

acidic mucus = aliens
sc != aliens

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lol music gg typo

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post Aug 13 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 13 2007, 12:46 PM)
Ohh so those protoss and zergs are humans in suits?
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by aliens i meant the aliens you see in well.. aliens... or in alien vs predator's aliens.

blame them for naming the movie the very thing that it is about.
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post Aug 15 2007, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(TeckPeow @ Aug 15 2007, 10:53 AM)
OK. you guys are just biased towards the DotA players.

What a waste of time discussing with you guys..

I am not going to post in this thread anymore....
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good riddance


Added on August 15, 2007, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(hizperion @ Aug 15 2007, 12:05 PM)
user posted image

so much win
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epic win sir!


Added on August 15, 2007, 12:13 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 15 2007, 12:07 PM)
Is it?Damn,i have mistaken. doh.gif

I also have personal problem with those Dotards who go everywhere saying Blizzard made DotA and shit.It annoys me a lot.
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what annoys me most is that dota is NOT MADE BY ICEFROG OR WHOEVER THE f*** FROG IS.

it is MADE BY EUL, then RIPPED OFF BY WHOEVER AND NOW ICEW/EFROG.

srsly l2properlycreditpplz
damn dotards

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and just to keep on topic

I BELIEVE MASSING VIKINGS IS THE WAY TO GO FOR TERRAN RUSH KEKEKEKEKEK

lolz...

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post Aug 15 2007, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 15 2007, 12:25 PM)
Like i care but Eul is not making that damn map now.Now,it's only Icefrog making that crap.

Talking about ripoff,DotA is also a ripoff from a map call AoS in SC.So,now,who is the original creator?
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thats calling rip off of a genre of a map (aos style game play)

it could be as easy as calling sc a ripoff off the first ever RTS made lol. (lol inc warhammer fanbois?)

i dont care if eul is still continue'ing the map or not, what i do care (well actually i dont, but i did during my active war3 days) is how that retard, took the exact dota map, add in a buncha retarded heroes and items, and claims it for himself, without awarding any credit or whatsoever.

and dotards being the ignorant bunch as they are, tend to believe its ALL icefrog's work. despite its an exact copy of the original eul's dota, even the name also didnt bother changing, and the fact that its a map/mod based OFF blizzard's warcraft3 in which most dotard believes that either icefrog is a blizz staff or dota is a game by itself.


Added on August 15, 2007, 1:53 pm
QUOTE(redeye84 @ Aug 15 2007, 01:40 PM)
Ok THATS IT!!.. I know some of you all are purposely doing this to annoy people. Please stop.. later Mods come and close this thread.
Unfortunately thats life.. not everyone is taking the dota fad happily. They just hate it cos their fav games are overshadow. nuff said.

Yes please cos you are failing alot.
For those dotard, I hope u know your own game history also. Dota is created by EUL which later on the creator open his source to public creating many version of it such as Dota chaos, Dota allstars and etc. The current Dota people are playing now is Dota Allstars which created by Icefrog therefore the current Dota is indeed from Icefrog.
Viking massing??.. better do marine mass, Stims + medic ftw. Btw can SCV repair each other and get heal by medic in SC2?
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dude, they can TRANSFORM! what the hell can beat that? all they need is adding in a hero named optimus prime and thats a total win right there.

VIKINGS FTW! pew epw epwepwepwe

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post Aug 15 2007, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 15 2007, 02:22 PM)
Ok guys, you scared off the troll. Can we stop the needless bashing of DotA now?

Anyway, just to add for those blur DotA fans:
Everything (Yes, EVERYTHING) in DotA is based off available assets used in Warcraft 3. Everything from the map objects, heroes, logos and icons are all there in standard Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne. This is the reason why the map is ridiculously small for something that supposedly contains a lot of "content".

The team that made DotA merely changed the stats, abilities and appearances for each and so the game is rather unique in itself despite not having a single original art asset.

Can we just stick to talking about how Protoss talk to each other without mouths and whether hydralisks shot acids or needles? Pewpew FTW!
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omg does that mean we won?! THE BATTLE AGAINST THE DOTARDS HAS PREVAILED!!!!11!!11ONE

and protoss have mouths due to the intelligence level of human beings we are unable to see them. i think that is why they dont have mouths! (lol)


Added on August 15, 2007, 3:23 pm
QUOTE(hizperion @ Aug 15 2007, 02:42 PM)
aiyo H@H@ come also explain about dota lol wut

madness!

but Vikings are ugly

it should be less bulky to win the internets
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like gundam wing zero custom less bulky AMIRITE?!?!?!!

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post Aug 15 2007, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 15 2007, 03:35 PM)
Sigh, after the dotards left, here comes the spammers sleep.gif"

Actually, I noticed that the bulky style exist in every terran unit. Marines for example - even bulkier than their SC1 counterpart. Heck, the siege tank now looks like an artillery platform than an actual tank! Even the buildings gained some fat, but they look great.

The slim wraiths are gone, and the spiny Goliaths replaced with bulky vikings. What else? Ah yes, the reapers. Big arse jumpjets.

I guess that's the new theme for terrans? Bulk.

For the protoss it is much different. Their buildings look more delicate, and sophisticated (artistically). Heck even the colossus exudes style with its archaic built and spidery legs.

Good thing eh?
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im ok with bulk so long their "stats" matches. the siege tank isnt any stronger (or maybe even weaker? lol) than their sc1 counter part and being more bulky (which should mean either heavier firepower, or tougher armor platings) just doesnt reflect it, be it stronger on their atk or tougher on their hp/armor.

imho on reapers they dont really look bulky but... the design is just /headinhands imo. they look fat'ish, and twin toy gun laserzpewpew is just doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 15 2007, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 15 2007, 03:48 PM)
Well traditionally Protoss is the more durable race, and terrans coming close to seconds (marines with 40 HP vs technicians with 30 HP... and they dare call it power armor). I think the bulk refers not to their durability but to their inferior technology compared to the protoss. Same thing like overengineering things vs precise engineering.

It can be argued that the Protoss are durable only because of their shields, and it makes sense because with the shields giving them extra durability they wouldn't have needed extra metal to protect them right? Not so for the terrans. No shield means they need thicker armor plates. Hehe.
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problem is that the siege tanks (the most noticeble bulkiest change from sc1 to 2) still seem to die just as fast as they did in sc1, and their firepower doesnt seem to be improved. not that i know if the stats is being changed/scaled to sc2 etc etc, just from the viewpoint of watching the gameplay videos etc.
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post Aug 15 2007, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 15 2007, 04:10 PM)
Well it is still in its early stages now, we still don't know the various damage types vs armor types stats yet. In the first gameplay demo, the siege tanks were annihilated because the Immortals have anti-siege tank shields. This gives some indication to what Blizzard intends to do - to make SC a more varied game in which unlike SC1 where siege tank's firepower pwns all type of ground armor, now there are units that are unafraid of the siege tanks's archlite cannons.

I think an ideal way of portraying the siege tank would be to make it vulnerable to melee, strong against small arms and average against heavy weapons. Extra damage from air would be even better tongue.gif. All in all, I would like to see the siege tanks turned into more dedicated artillery units, needing protection from other ground skirmish units like the grounded vikings and thor.
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yea that is true, just have to wait for a more indepth stats insights on the terran units to see if the actual stats reflect the bulkiness of their new units or ugprades/different varriants from the old units.

and yea i agree, siege tanks should be more of an actual SIEGE tanks. and not lolturtlingmassdefense tanks. extra dmg to small units to counter masses and decent? or normal dmg to medium units and reduced dmg? to larger combatant units. but due to the nature of its sieging capabilities, EXTRA dmg to buildings!! drool.gif


Added on August 15, 2007, 5:19 pm
QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 15 2007, 05:12 PM)
So.. what the hell happen to the Goliaths? sad.gif
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they are now called viking, with the ability to transform into planes.

autocannons changed to gatling guns, and their rockets changed to air to air missles in plane mode.

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post Aug 16 2007, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 15 2007, 05:41 PM)
Then,how do they talk to the humans and Zerg?
They should be gone now,just like Firebats.Sniff~
That feature in bold is in the current SC2 now.I saw a screenshot of a Cobra's stats on the UI that says it does more damage against mechanical class unit.


Added on August 15, 2007, 5:43 pm

Dunno,i read somewhere that Viking are also anti-air a few weeks before Blizzcon.Now,they are not again.Robots can only shoot ground and plane mode can only shoot air.

I do hope the final SC2's Viking can shoot air units in robot mode.
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protoss uses on screen subtitles to communicate with terran/zerg! biggrin.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:33 am
QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Aug 15 2007, 06:15 PM)
Im sure protoss have some hearing organs. Just that it is not visible, hmm something like the reptiles.
If they can't listen, they could have just died from all kind of stupid scenarios. (Getting run over by a vehicle from behind, coz cant listen to its movement..etc)
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they probably uses sonar... but damn that would be hilarious seein a high and mighty toss suddenly got road killed LOL!


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:33 am
QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 15 2007, 06:23 PM)
Hearing is still a minor issue. How do the freaking protoss eat with no mouth, and most importantly, how do they procreate? Anybody here into protoss pron? tongue.gif
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umm. IV tubes like those in hospitals? and... artificial insemination!!!! lolz


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:35 am
QUOTE(redeye84 @ Aug 15 2007, 06:42 PM)
Protoss porn.. err Oh yeah? If iam Aldaris.. He always so cranky, He need to get laid.

If iam not mistaken Protoss are created like test tube babies or something.. Damm i need me manual.

I am not really sure yet but i assume protoss talks though telephatic. We dont pick their voice though sound, It comes from our minds.

Does anyone have their SC manuals, Please check it out for me
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xel'naga, but im DAMN SURE that the xel'naga left them with something to make babies! i mean, you have to!

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 16 2007, 10:25 AM)
No they live long enough so that the xelnaga can come back and see their advancement no babies needed dead toss just gets cloned back or made in to dragoons.
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i thought xel'nagas died off or something, anyone found lore that have any mentions about their whereabouts?
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 16 2007, 10:49 AM)
And whats with the duo blades make it look so crapy how can energy blades be bent, minimised size of gundam?  shakehead.gif
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gundam wing deathscythe... lolzwin
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post Aug 16 2007, 12:52 PM

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yea toss-zerg hybrid is def. in. and its jim raynor tongue.gif
jimmy for short
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post Aug 16 2007, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Aug 16 2007, 01:45 PM)
Jimmy is the toss-zerg hybrid??
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no, just the name correction.

samir duran is the lil fag behind the scene
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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 16 2007, 02:30 PM)
Calling him a fag is a little understating his gayness. Damn, first I thought he was a wussy, then thought he'd be a good drag queen, and then when I saw him with the Hybrid I thought - hey, this guy screwed everybody and nobody knows anything about it. Then I thought - damn, this guy is good! tongue.gif
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lmao you do have a point...

i mean, i thought sarah kerrigan was the big player, till the samir duran stage... and like... "oh..."
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post Aug 20 2007, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(TeckPeow @ Aug 19 2007, 01:41 PM)
nothing new really...

Anti-mage Magina also dual blades what...
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why the eff are you still posting here doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


Added on August 20, 2007, 10:12 am
QUOTE(Cyrus2k @ Aug 19 2007, 08:47 PM)
doh.gif Stop all that pls. SC and WC are 2 different games, you compare for what? Somemore you say DotA is cool coz the heroes cast magics and stuffs, what the heck, all heroes in WC3 can cast magics, even some normal units also can cast magic/buff/debuff! DotA merely copy those skills/magics and modified it before implement it into their heroes. doh.gif

The name is illadan, the core image for your ub3r-l33t Anti-Mage Magina. doh.gif Illadan > Magina.
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bro if you wanna correct someone make sure you got all your facts straight first.

ILLIDAN STORMRAGE.

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despite the fact that dotards spawned outta wc, i beg to differ that wc(ur not even mentioning wc3, rather generalizing the whole wc franchise) is a disaster. assumingly ur talking bout wc3, it definitely isnt a disaster as:

1) there are still a LOT of player base on bnet
2) its sales chart easily toppled sc

while it is true that it isnt as "legendary" as sc, (i mean cmon, how could it be? it indirectly revived a country's economy[south korea], coming from a game, that is huge. not to mention the fact that a 1998 game that is still widely played until this very day vs a 2002? or 2003 game? forgot when wc3 was out) but by no means it is a disaster.
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dur, its the same warcraft franchise, lore ring a bell?
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post Aug 20 2007, 11:53 AM

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its kewl, dotards tend to drive people crazy anyways. as proven in this thread. even the fake dotard trolls managed to stir up so much shit lol


Added on August 20, 2007, 11:58 am
QUOTE(hao @ Aug 20 2007, 11:52 AM)
Actually WC3 is a nice game, released back in 2002 IRC, but it was ruined by Dota. There's hardly anyone playing melee game eversince.

Btw, SC2 will be released next year (hopefully) and I wonder will it be a big hit to CnC3 which will also release an expansion.
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nah theres still a lot of melee'ers and i doubt its really ruined by dota tongue.gif

in fact, i just played 4 melees on sunday, as a lvl0 scrub ROFL!
first game fought a lvl7, 2nd game a lvl20, 3rd game lvl28 and last game, lvl30... this one in particular, called me a hacker cuz i was a lvl4? beating a lvl30 lmao.

all 4 games i won despite the lvl difference and the fact that ive never played war3 melee ladder for a LONG LONG time since ive moved on to world of warcraft. after checking their win ratios, i guess its no surprise, im a 59-60% win ratio player bullying a 40-50% win ratio player sweat.gif

best thing ive gotten from the ladder matches is that i somehow managed to random ALL 4 races in a shot /happyface

then later on! i moved on to custom games and found a new 300 game... omg epic spartan battle rclxm9.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


/endofftopic

but enough offtopics, back to sc2 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Aug 20 2007, 02:21 PM)
... Just wanna ask from the look of the Game. Do you thing we need an uber rig to play. I dont think we need such a poweful rig to play.

The graphics isnt as great as COH. nor they isnt extreme massing of troops.

With low physics = less processing.
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they did mention that it will be using a very scalable engine to cope with a wide range of machine specs, so chances are even if you have a low end spec machine (not too low of course sweat.gif ) then it should be ok. and of course with better machine you get better effects.

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