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 MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.

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mroys@lyn
post Jun 4 2018, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2018, 11:27 AM)
Actually HSR is good if we have the right population.. Let's say 80mil or 100mil...

Then I sure HSR is sustainable.... Can cover the cost & have good riderships numbers....
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based on report minimum combined population is 20mil. kl & sg is projected to have 20mil population in 2020. make more babies please.
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post Jun 5 2018, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jun 5 2018, 10:20 AM)
I agree that using public transport will definitely save lots of money and also time to travel to work. It is true the crime rate is one of the most concern of people who taking public transport. There is a robbery case where I have a friend his neighbour's daugther die after being attack when she walked out of the train station. Some of the train stations are located in quiet place where during off peak time there were very few people around the station and the walking distance to the nearest bus stop will take 5-10 minutes walk. For example like KTM station Wahyu, Batu Kentonmen, or Batu Caves, during non-peak hour time it feel not safe to walk from outside to the station. Hope the new government will enhance the safety to encourage public to use public transport.

It is true that the MRT3 circle line will help to increase ridership, but with current economy situation the new government may have to delay the project and recover the debt first. Hopefully the MRT3 or equivalent connection between the MRT1 and 2 will resume after couple of years.
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you mean the debts can be recovered in 2 years time? then it's not serious, why cancel the projects?
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post Jun 7 2018, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(King Gor @ Jun 7 2018, 11:31 AM)
What r the main reasons our MRT ridership can't meet the target?

Fares too expensive?
Station build at the wrong location?
Not convenient at all?
Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)?
Interchange station badly design, walk too far?
Ticket machines not user friendly?
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not yet met the ridership due to incomplete network ie mrt2 & mrt3
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post Jun 12 2018, 04:12 PM

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hahaha.... must be having good 'deal'
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post Jun 13 2018, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 13 2018, 08:15 AM)
My opinion, HSR is not value for money due to the followings:-

Due to its high construction cost, the fares will be very high. And when there are existing cheaper alternatives, most people would resort for cheaper alternatives unless for something more urgent. The train will not be frequented by normal passengers but for the rich. It might be full during festive season but not the normal days. So in the end, HSR is only good for urgent business dealings, richer travellers and festive season. When alternative options allow you to arrive at your destination the same day, the faster HSR is not so attractive. Dont forget one needs to first travel to HSR station first. and for the trains with multiple stops, its going to take longer time.
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hahaha... build train station in front of your door? there's kl-sg express has no stop in between smile.gif
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post Jun 13 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 13 2018, 11:36 AM)
Aiya, manyak public infrastructure tak untung 1. But the hidden profit manyak mah. Also help manyak other business mah especially sme, also attract more investors mah. When business good pipu can cari Makan then gov can collect more tax mah. Rugi this pocket but can untung more in another pocket mah.

Ru see singland sibeh pandai. Tak kisah rugi. Sponsor manyak $ to North Korea leader to singland meeting with trump.

You sees singland gov spent liao too manyak $. But the huge hidden profit and future profit sibeh kao kao good. Sibeh good investment, return sibeh kao good. When Business growing and sibeh good then Good for gov can collect more more tax mah.

This pocket out another pocket even more in mah. Why always want to to get the $ back to the same pocket?
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I pening reading this even though you're not spinning
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post Jun 14 2018, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jun 14 2018, 03:01 PM)
This is good article on some questions need to be understand about KL-Singapre HSR.

happy reading
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2018/06/14/...ed-rail-dilemma
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First question is questionable, doubt about writer's knowledge. Got KL-SG express maa...

First, the proposed 350km HSR track between Bandar Malaysia in Kuala Lumpur and Jurong East in Singapore includes six stations in between – Putrajaya, Seremban, Air Keroh, Muar, Batu Pahat and Iskandar Putri.
Will the short distances between some stations allow the HSR to move continuously at high speed? High speed is usually defined as a rate faster than 250kmh.


This post has been edited by mroys@lyn: Jun 14 2018, 04:20 PM
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post Jun 18 2018, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(junbow @ Jun 18 2018, 10:54 AM)
RM50bil cheaper alternative to KL-S'pore high speed rail by upgrading the present infrastructure

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...r-only-rm20bil/

Seem not bad..this idea
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own one line instead of two. to expand in future will cost more. example bakun, you will never build it now if you had not started it 20 years ago.
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post Jun 18 2018, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jun 18 2018, 01:13 PM)
90 mins vs 130 mins. not much difference to me.
The most important is cheaper and more affordable train tickets.
https://www.train36.com/ktm-route.html

Looking at the route. Looks like places like Bandar Tasik Selatan, TPM (planned new KTM station at Maju KL), Kajang etc may benefits if they go ahead with the new plan.
They may still build a station at Bandar Malaysia as planned?
Looks like Singapore side will still end at Jurong East.
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it's not 90vs130, we are talking about economy booster or game changer. Fortune favors the bold.

This post has been edited by mroys@lyn: Jun 18 2018, 01:39 PM
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post Jun 18 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jun 18 2018, 01:38 PM)
The BN's HSR plan  is not bold enough. It's old tech.
To me to be bold is to build a second generation maglev line or a hyperloop line.
But at this moment , those technology is not mature enough and we dont have the $.
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this is your opinion
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post Jun 18 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jun 18 2018, 01:38 PM)
The BN's HSR plan  is not bold enough. It's old tech.
To me to be bold is to build a second generation maglev line or a hyperloop line.
But at this moment , those technology is not mature enough and we dont have the $.
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this is a public forum. please don't give misleading opinion. you knew the techs are not mature yet you are proposing them. when we wanted to embark any new project, it must be feasible. pre-EIA study has brushed off both maglev and hyperloop options. the facts/reasons are given in the report.


 

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