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post May 18 2007, 09:32 PM

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Here comes the demonic review thumbup.gif
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post May 18 2007, 09:46 PM

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He's in love with IM716, nothing could beat it sweat.gif
Maybe I should post the IM716 price here now, or organize an IM716 bulk.


Added on May 18, 2007, 9:55 pm
QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 18 2007, 09:21 PM)

Infact the M3 has this crazy good synergy with my recently acquired MS Zune. Thus paired, it does lose a smidgen of bass slam and exhibits this ever so slight mid/treble edginess (although only barely if noticeable at all), it gained a whole barrel of clarity and sparkle that keeps me enthralled. If Bill Gates (or whomever in charge of Zune marketing) ever hopes to kick Apple's Ipod's ass, all they have to do is to bundle the M3 with the Zune!
One day Bill gates will contact Uncle Wilson after he read this. rclxm9.gif

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post May 19 2007, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 19 2007, 12:04 AM)
ya its was pretty fun learning, discovering and describing what is to me, something i have not much knowledge of. but its good learning process and though im not sure i wanna do more of this, its was fun.

re. trying ES7, as i stated go try or if adi have tested a M3, just picture a more refined M3 with deeper a bottom end and you've essentially described an ES7.
ya the iM716 is good though not without its faults. it can be a bright and fatiguing and my ears still walks kangkang! but when its good its good. LOL! that said, the M3 is far more fun and useful coz of its comfort and convienence. i've brought it to the gym icon_rolleyes.gif

uncle wilson wont get the chance, i've adi made the appt. with bill laugh.gif
the only pics i have are labelled XXX and u'd hafta pay to see 'em rclxm9.gif  cool2.gif
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Oh ya, I havent seen your moded IM716. How is it look like?
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post May 21 2007, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ May 20 2007, 12:10 PM)
yo man...
such a fantastic reviews...
we are highly appreciate for uncle scottiebabie effort....
give u a kiss then.... blush.gif
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QUOTE(youliang @ May 20 2007, 11:24 PM)
1. = is the claimed reason for the existence of something
2.=An outstanding accomplishment
3.=its first appearance  -usually used in court..ahhaha
4.= which was to be demonstrated

its french and latin .
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Added on May 20, 2007, 11:25 pmwell, hope im right..hahaha
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post May 21 2007, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 21 2007, 12:26 AM)
on the iM716 mod, i just basically followed here after which i just heatshrink the joint. simple as that. come on dude, u can do it! your ears will thank me  rclxm9.gif
thankyou for your kind words and everyone elses that enjoyed my dumb ramblings doh.gif . errrr.....re. that kiss, u got a sister? i'd much rather get a smooch from her, no offence ya laugh.gif
at the risk of sounding like an oldman lecturing, i'l give u the contextual meaning as relevent to what i wrote. youliang had the right idea as derived from wiki and other dictionaries but there's a slight variation to the actual meaning.

1."raison d'être" literally translated from french means "reason to be". here it means "reason or justification for being or existing".

2."pièces de ré.sis.tance" again directly translated from french means "piece of resistance". here i meant it as "the defining highlight thats makes it unique and special".

3."prima facia" directly translated from latin means "at first sight". used in the context of this review, it basically means "the statement is evident at first sight (or listen in this case) without needing further proof".

4."Quod Erat Demonstrandum" again directly translated from latin means "which was to be demonstrated". in this context, it basically means "i'v just demonstrated it to be true".

dont mean cause any confusion but its been quite awhile since i had to write any papers that have used those particular words. i thought that since it applies to what i reviewed, i'd just put it in rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif


Added on May 21, 2007, 1:15 am

forgot to answer your question about comfort doh.gif . the ES7 is very comfy realy. the headband is bendable to suit the width of your head so u can adjust it to allow the cups to rest lightly on the ears. also since its not heavy (unlike some grados! nod.gif ) the pressure on the top of the head is light. i've had it on for a coupla hrs straight and its all good! the only nit i can pick is that its supra-aural (as in the earcups rests on instead of covering the ears). sometimes my ears can get abit irritated but i believe thats more pychological than physical. its best for you to find a pair to tryout but i cant help u there as i dont know which store carries it in KL (or M'sia for that matter). a coupla pls in silypore carries it though. goodluck bud thumbup.gif
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Oh he has a younger one, 11 years old you want that? LOL.
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post May 22 2007, 12:41 AM

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IM716 = my price RM450+-
Mylarthree = RM160
KSC75 = get it from coolerthings
ES7 = not sure gotta ask
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post May 22 2007, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 22 2007, 05:31 PM)
waaa...11 yrs old ah! i hear the punishment for being with underaged is like 10yrs jail and 50 rotans or something stupid like that! icon_question.gif  let me just borrow your GF la. only a smooch ma...how come malaysian guys are so insecure one??? whistling.gif  tongue.gif 
yup coobra is right ofcourse. IMO the 4 cans here are all top contenders in their respective classes. that said, IMO the ES7 and iM716 are technically superior and unsurprizingly so since they're both also priced the highest.

Insecure? PCwork or yrh, borrow your gf to scottie and see will he agree? laugh.gif

FWIW, the ES7 is rated 1 of the best closed over the ears portable headphones at headfi.org. as for the iM716, can i just say that i sold my senn HD600 coz of lack of usage since i learnt how to use the triflanges (despite the discomfort)?? u do the math hmm.gif  nod.gif
buddie, u sold me! u can mod my ksc75 when u have the time thumbup.gif
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PCwork bradder I am looking forward for two male RCA cables for Aego.
KSC75 recable cost how much?
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post May 23 2007, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ May 23 2007, 08:04 AM)
Let me know anytime if you need the RCA-RCA. =)
or i can even consider to make it infront of you during the july gathering.
haha just worry i can't bring so many things there.
recable it will be around RM 40-45. very ex..
no choice, as the cable is imported.... =.=
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I need it now!!! nah, joking...
but the length I would prefer like the aegoM's length.
You can do it now or wait till july for a demo. Maybe we gather at scottie's/your house.
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post May 23 2007, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ May 23 2007, 12:29 PM)
so u have to bring 4 f-10 plug...and cable...and a lots more stuff....u can do it in my house if u need it. laugh.gif
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Yaya, the best is you guys gather at yuheng's house rclxms.gif
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post May 23 2007, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(:+:[J]erR[y]:+: @ May 23 2007, 05:23 PM)
I like my current Ksc75..  rclxms.gif
I am greedy.. Hope to get something better..  drool.gif
Wish to get a more comfortable yet portable one..

The iM716 have to be put really inside the ears right?  unsure.gif
I am scared with the feeling.. My ears will burst?  shocking.gif

One of the reasons that i enjoy the ksc75 is its big soundstage and i could feel different music instruments playing around my ears from many directions.. hehe..  rclxms.gif
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IM716 is also among my 'most loved' phone in my category. It's just that you want or doesnt want to spend that moneyflies.gif KSC75 yes it has wider soundstage but you dont have the 3D sound which IM716 is able to produced, more realistic...
Dont worry about bursting your eardrums, still a big distance from your tips to your eardrums even you poke them deep biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ May 23 2007, 06:44 PM)
Which make me feel rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  and decided not to get myself a Koss KSC-75. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 23 2007, 07:53 PM)
actually, the koss has the larger wider airy soundstage btwn the it and the M3 by virtue of it being an open fon and the M3 being closed. that said, i've never found ksc's soundstage to be a shortcoming-its one its strengths IMO.

u will definatly like the M3 if the koss bothers u. the M3 is less airy but has a meathier sound, bigger and deeper bass with a groovy fun presentation. except for classical (which i dont listen to), i've yet to find a genre that the M3 dont perform decently if not well.

another bonus for the M3 is that it also performs the best out of the 4 without an external amp (esp. for DAPs with weak mw output). i've the koss max out usually juz offa reg. headout but on the M3, 3/4 is already earsplitting loud. btw i listen LOUD (just ask brader PCWORK) laugh.gif . IMHO the M3 is definately for u if u dont like the koss thumbup.gif .

Q.E.D. (quite easily solved  thumbup.gif  ) No Need For  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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shocking.gif You can actually stand KSC75 with full blast? You should go for a doctor to check your hearings (too much pxb isnt good for you scottie tongue.gif)
Even now I treasure my hearings and the IM716 is just 75% maxed out, decent volume to hear the micro details of micro details. laugh.gif
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post May 24 2007, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ May 23 2007, 10:57 PM)
lol, relax guys. laugh.gif

What I was trying to say is that I feel like KSC-75 over emphasize on those instrument sound. The instrument sound is over emphasized compare to other sounds like vocal, some more it is a lot of different over emphasized instruments sound blended together with impact/slamming type bass to my ears; I just can't enjoy the songs. I prefer "soft"(not volume level kind of soft) and "deep" bass with well balance blended vocal and instrument; I prefer laid back and relaxing music instead of over emphasized instrument + impact/slamming type bass which is really making me feel rclxub.gif .

I am not sure if the over emphasized instrument sound got anything to do with the soundstage. But all above is how I feel when I first test out the KSC-75. I am just sharing my opinion on it here. I am not a true audiophile, please don't flame me but enlighten me if I am wrong. Thanks. blush.gif
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Then the upfront grado is not for u. Try the Senns instead.
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post May 24 2007, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 24 2007, 01:41 PM)
Ooo ya dude...im part of the original  TEAM "Go Big or Go Home!"  TEAM "When In Doubt..Gas It!" and TEAM "Pedal To The Metal - Foot To The Floor!" kinda guy flex.gif . Gatta have fun and blast it bud else..we'r just taking up space (and useless space at that cry.gif ).! laugh.gif

and about my hearing...ah aint deaf. im STONE COLD DEAF! rclxm9.gif  brader PCWork shud know - ask him how often i miss his calls shakehead.gif  shocking.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif !!!
hey no worries. as long as you're having fun and enjoying it, there aint no such thang as wrong. as we use to say..ITS ALL GOOD! do give the M3 a try though, i think u'll realy like it. I DO thumbup.gif
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Take care your hearing dude. That's your "2nd best enjoyment" brows.gif that you can even bring it to your elder age. As for your "1st enjoyment" you cant brows.gif.

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QUOTE(PcWork @ May 28 2007, 09:05 AM)
in your case, i really recommend you go for Audio technica headphone. not cheapo one. at least somethings not bad. they are well produce in the mid range. and quite balance.
else go for AKG series. i have the same taste as i love "soft" and relaxing sound from my headphone. too high impact make me feel annoying. such as Grado, so grado is a no no for me.
i understood that. ever since you love the feeling of IM716 rape your ear... then i will expect you seal urself off from the outter world..
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Scottiebabie just introduce me the correct way to rape our ears, and even since I quite like the feeling of it thumbup.gif sweat.gif
Kidding, but the after burned in IM716 is thumbup.gif . Some of the best sound I can get even from a portable. cool.gif
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Maybe the continuous burn in does helps a lot. Without shoving it deep it still sounds good?
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post May 29 2007, 05:26 PM

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WTH, I must go scottie's house a give it a good listen this time!!!
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post May 30 2007, 12:51 AM

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What's the initial impression? Lot's of improvement?
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post May 30 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ May 30 2007, 08:25 AM)
entertain??? day and night???? tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  walabies will be .... wub.gif  wub.gif

oh ya. brother scottie. ur KSC75 is done.
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I am not a g*y so I dont need him to entertain me, just his 'usual companion' at parties would be enough. laugh.gif Ops, cant do that cos wifey is following me icon_question.gif

QUOTE(scottiebabie @ May 30 2007, 12:48 PM)
well i only listened very briefly plus a mamak isnt the greatest enviroment for listening to an open fon like the ksc75. but i could adi tell the bass is much better controlled. give me a week or 2 with it and i'll do old ksc75 vs new ksc75 vs iM716 (my current reference) comparo. hint:i think brader PCWORK mite get realy busy soon icon_idea.gif
waaa...thats fast man. lets hope brader PCdude restricts his "fastgun" to modding and NOT to other "extracurricular" activities else wifey wont be a happy camper icon_question.gif . Oooopss i forgot...theres Viagr* nowadays sweat.gif . just kidding brader just kidding  laugh.gif  tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif . cya this sunday thumbup.gif
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He can use other stuff other than fastgun to do that...
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QUOTE(PcWork @ May 30 2007, 03:18 PM)
lol
only fast at modding.. hahaha
i am not fast in nocturnal activities dude.. wth i am talking..
see u sunday dude.
soldering guns????..... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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doh.gif You must show your energy at night. You cant always slow during the activity dude. thumbup.gif Later someone will be yawning during the 'activity' rclxm9.gif

Oh ya, I really need a RCA cable this time. So dont used up all the materials ah...
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post May 31 2007, 11:57 AM

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Nah, mine is the chapalang china brand cable. Dont wanna think about it again doh.gif
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post Jun 1 2007, 12:13 PM

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Hey, that splitter looks good, I may want that also...

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