The BGR arrangement and subpixel pattern. IPS/ADS panel will be different

Look at the difference here (ADS QN85C)

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn85c-qn85cd-qled



You can also refer to the subpixel pic of the QN95B which is VA only as reference

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn95b-qled



BGR is a well known arrangement for CSOT VA panel

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 15 2023, 03:22 PM

standard mode

A quick review / feedback of my 65" QN85C after I've been using it for a week. Decided to do this since the model is the only Neo QLED miniled model to have 65 inch and above unless u decide to go for QN95C. (QN90C only have 43 and 50"). U can skip to bottom if TLDR

Some context, this is my first TV purchase for my new house. Never had any ownership experience with any brands or models before, but did a lot of study and research online and based on that Samsung was not my first choice initially (no Dolby Vision, Tizen OS etc). I've always been a fan of Sony and naturally wanted their TV as well based on mostly good feedback and reviews.

So how did I end up with Samsung? Initially I set my eyes on OLED (LG or Sony), but after careful consideration regarding budget and taking into account my usage, I decided to skip OLED and go for miniLED instead. However when it comes to miniLED the choice is very limited in our market. Long story short I decided the QN85C would be the best compromise when it comes to image quality and features for my budget (wanted QN95B but couldnt find one for my budget range)

Summary of pros and cons. Usage is mostly youtube and netflix

Pros
- Very slim and nice design, especially if you are wall mounting

- Almost complete feature set for a mid-high end TV including 4x 48gbps HDMI 2.1 (no other brands except LG provide this)

- Overall image quality is very good after playing around with the settings. It also gets bright enough during HDR scenes (~1200 nits). There's also very minimal blooming during dark scenes when I set local dimming to High (there's low and standard setting). 720 dimming zones + miniLED really helps. I can probably say there is almost no blooming (OLED like) unless i go and look for it. I use local dimming high for HDR content and local dimming standard for SDR.

- The sound quality from the TV speakers is OK, I would say above average after changing some settings. Definitely good enough for most users. One advantage for Samsung TVs is you get Q Symphony when u pair the TV with one of their good soundbars like Q990B/C which I plan to do in the near future.

Cons
- The Tizen OS. Its not as bad as I would expect actually. Like most complaints are regarding the usability, but I got used to it very fast and the 2023 version have a few improvements like the quick settings menu. Still once a while I get some lag or stuttering while navigating the menu and settings, also the available apps are not as much as Google TV for sure. The biggest issue was on the first day where my wifi would disconnect randomly and refuse to connect back eventhough my wifi is fine, only after i reset the network settings then it would work, but it would still disconnect after a few hours or next day. Googled and found out that its a common Samsung TV issued. Did a fix and now its no longer disconnecting so all good there, but I imagine this would put a lot of people off who just got their new TV.

- No Dolby Vision. I just included this here because it is what it is. But to be honest for me.... I dont think it matters nor you can tell the difference unless you are very used to Dolby Vision content until you can tell the difference or you have another similar range TV for comparison side by side. The image quality itself even without Dolby Vision already looks very good in HDR. Maybe its not accurate but who cares unless you do, then you are probably better off with Sony

- Content upscaling, motion handling may not be as good as Sony. Again I dont have a Sony to compare or owned a Sony before to know, but some 1080p or 720p videos from Youtube look exactly the same (as in you can tell its lower resolution). I'm not sure how well Sony does in this regard.

- Reflection handling is quite bad. This is probably the biggest con for me. My TV is near the sliding door to the balcony, and during day time the reflection is pretty bad especially during dark scenes. Fortunately for HDR it gets bright enough to overcome the reflection but you still can see reflections during dark scenes. If u plan to get this TV, make sure its not near any window or door openings for optimal viewing.







Conclusion I am very satisfied with the TV for the price (got it for 7.5k including wall bracket and installation). There's no better choice for miniLED in this price tbh unless u can find a new QN95B or go for Sony X90L/X90K but those are not miniLED. My heart is still with Sony though my next TV will most probably be Sony, hopefully can afford their QD OLED or miniLED by that time

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 15 2023, 08:29 PM

Thanks Sir for the review, after read your review I think I will go for Samsung Mini LED. Maybe i will going for Samsung QN90C either 43/50 inch for my small room. My purpose 100% for playing PS5.

At first want to take LG OLED 48 inch but scare for burn in issue in future

Nice review and TV.

Get the Apple TV 4K 3rd gen, it supports HDR10+ also. Still prefer Dolby Vision (dynamic metadata) or in your case HDR10+ instead of standard HDR10, where it will just throw a highest and lowest luminance level and apply it to the entire movie.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Aug 16 2023, 08:20 PM

QN90C should be good as a gaming tv. I think the reason Samsung Msia only brings in 43 and 50" is to target the gaming segment since it uses a ADS screen

Will consider it. But I'm not on Apple ecosystem.... maybe will wait for the next Chromecast with Google TV

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 16 2023, 09:50 PM

go for 50 inch

This post has been edited by GamersFamilia: Aug 19 2023, 06:04 PM

Hi anyone has this and wonder how is the experience?

https://www.samsung.com/my/tvs/qled-tv/qn95...qa75qn95cakxxm/

One of the best miniLED tv in our market now. Just go for it if you can afford it, and if you are ok with no Dolby Vision

I have the step down QN85C and is happy with it so far

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 20 2023, 12:29 PM

Miniled tv. Usually buyer in 70+ inch category choose miniled because they couldn't shelve 20k+ for OLED.

I got the QN85C from the Maxis broadband 500mbps 24mths instalment very good price. Rm6.6k. Now waiting for delivery.

Any need for special expensive HDMI cable to enjoy? 😬

Can’t afford for OLED. Hope it’s a good investment on QLED

I didnt even plug in any HDMI yet, just using the internal youtube and netflix app

You need to do some settings to get the best picture

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 20 2023, 05:46 PM

Anybody on S95C so far enjoying without issues? Too bad about DV no support until now though.

Maybe can consider A95L if you can afford it. A bit surprised Sony Msia decided to bring this model in. S95C is ok but the overall software experience and image processing wont be as refined as the Sony based on user feedback on other forums

The harvey dude I was liaising with also recommended me to wait for the new A95L series to come in because of the XR Proc and DV, however I'm just worried about the Sony timer urban legend stuff.
Of course the price for that model is much more expensive too.

Sony timer urban legend stuff?

Since u are getting QD OLED i assume you are aiming for the best image quality, might as well go all out for the best A95L vs S95C RRP is 5k difference, but I believe S95C can be had for a lower price now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_timer Ini bro.

Wonder those with access with Samsung's EPP can get the S95C at what price. Aiming for the best PQ comes with the best wallet pain too.

Pretty sure that is just what it is, an urban legend

Cant access EPP anymore since Samsung refresh and removed my sister account after she resigned from Grab.

The last time I checked was 13k for 65inch S95C IIRC. Impossible to get S95B dumping price. Back then really worth but too bad I hesitated. I think it was 8999 lastime and there is even a 5% off for first purchase. On top of that, Samsung had this RM1000 TNG offer for QD OLED. Final price is 7.5k or so after deducting everything but I just bought a X90J a year earlier. Tempted my parents to upgrade but they refused. Then their TV died a year later but no more offer liao. In the end, got a QN95B for RM6850 with RM600 TNG offer.