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Convael
post May 17 2021, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(kananthen @ May 15 2021, 11:57 PM)
Guys, im kinda confused  rclxub.gif .

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/co...ison/db801a3326

Does the AU9000 series has a 120 Hz screen and supports VRR. For game mode seems to have a VRR function but there's no HDMI 2.1 port.

How does this work?
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VRR is not an exclusive feature on HDMI 2.1 .

They can exist on HDMI 2.0b without a problem , just not simultaneously with other features like ALLM , QMS over 4k 120hz .

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post May 17 2021, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 17 2021, 10:27 AM)
VRR is not an exclusive feature on HDMI 2.1 .

They can exist on HDMI 2.0b without a problem , just not simultaneously with other features like ALLM , QMS over 4k 120hz .
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well now it makes sense.

Thank you.
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post May 18 2021, 04:09 PM

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Hi,

My 4 years old 55" KS7500 suddenly with no power. No standby light or anything. Swap the power cord also same.

Contacted Samsung, and was informed it is most probably PSU board is dead. Expect to fork out around RM500 for replacement including service fee etc. Board itself is already RM300.

I managed to take out the board and noticed clicking sound on the PSU board, most likely capacitor or relays kaput already.

Googled and found one company can do PSU board repair but after several days inspecting the board, was quote RM600++!!.

Therefore, anyone know any company or personnel who can do PSU board repair? I expect to spend not more than RM100, else better get a brand new board from Samsung at RM300.

This TV is seldom used now as it is being replaced by newer 65" TV.

Appreciate the help.

Thanks.

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post May 18 2021, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(cym @ May 18 2021, 04:09 PM)
Hi,

My 4 years old 55" KS7500 suddenly with no power. No standby light or anything. Swap the power cord also same.

Contacted Samsung, and was informed it is most probably PSU board is dead. Expect to fork out around RM500 for replacement including service fee etc. Board itself is already RM300.

I managed to take out the board and noticed clicking sound on the PSU board, most likely capacitor or relays kaput already.

Googled and found one company can do PSU board repair but after several days inspecting the board, was quote RM600++!!.

Therefore, anyone know any company or personnel who can do PSU board repair? I expect to spend not more than RM100, else better get a brand new board from Samsung at RM300.

This TV is seldom used now as it is being replaced by newer 65" TV.

Appreciate the help.

Thanks.
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yesterday I was reading one of the thread, ada seorang kat sini buat repair, but cant recall it now.

maybe check it out at garage sales or service board. all the best
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post May 26 2021, 04:14 PM

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Bought a QN90A 55 inch earlier and it has been good except few problems which I find it to be poor on Samsung part. Review will be based on the quality and also the price point of the TV.

1. Good picture quality but halo effect still can be seen even with mini-led.
2. Minimal dirty screen effect for my batch. Which is good I guess with Samsung screen lottery.
3. Only ONE HDMI 2.1 ports. This is a 2021 TV yet with a 2020 problem.
4. VRR is buggy on NVIDIA graphic card as it is not G-Sync Compatible certified. Use it at your own risk if own RTX30 series.
5. Biggest gripe is review from other country is VA panel yet our Malaysia unit will have inferior ADS/IPS panel. The biggest switch and bait which until now Samsung Malaysia did not specify during the writing of this review. Photo as proof. Don't know what else Samsung did not disclose. Basically an QN85A with QN90A price.
6. Poor quality control as a foreign object can be seen between the screen and panel near the bezel as attached in photo.

Overall, for this price, it is an underwhelming experience.

p/s: Review blocked by Samsung Malaysia official page, so...

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Convael
post May 26 2021, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(y2ou @ May 26 2021, 04:14 PM)
Bought a QN90A 55 inch earlier and it has been good except few problems which I find it to be poor on Samsung part. Review will be based on the quality and also the price point of the TV.

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First of all , thank you for sharing the sub-pixel structure which is in line with my experience .

The un-even shape of the rectangles clearly shows this is an BOE manufactured ADS pixel structure , which means Samsung representative who claimed their TV is using VA panel is wrong about their very own product .
How pathetic .


At the same time , I have contacted Samsung spare-parts .This is the replacement product code they have given me which has once again proven they are wrong .

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is a MINI-LED , ADS / IPS based TV , not the VA type which was reviewed by Rtings.

And Samsung PR and CS or the technical team , please spend more time learning about your very own product .

To people who have accused me of being wrong , I hope the evidence is enough to clear up all the confusion .

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5. Biggest gripe is review from other country is VA panel yet our Malaysia unit will have inferior ADS/IPS panel. The biggest switch and bait which until now Samsung Malaysia did not specify during the writing of this review. Photo as proof. Don't know what else Samsung did not disclose. Basically an QN85A with QN90A price.


Actually they did , via their spec sheets . Listed as " wide viewing angles " , VA is usually listed as " Ultra wide " . They took the whole specification from Samsung HQ of Korea and UK but their CS , Technical department , PR keep telling others it is VA because what they did was googling to rtings . They don't exactly know what is the difference between two . They have not even seen the TV I bet ya .


The 65 " I measured in homedec expo has a 2200 nits rating so it is a really bright TV . Unfortunately the black level still leave a lot to be desired .

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post May 26 2021, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 26 2021, 06:22 PM)
First of all , thank you for sharing the sub-pixel structure which is in line with my experience .

The un-even shape of the rectangles clearly shows this is an BOE manufactured ADS pixel structure , which means Samsung representative who claimed their TV is using VA panel is wrong about their very own product .
How pathetic .
At the same time , I have contacted Samsung spare-parts .This is the replacement product code they have given me which has once again proven they are wrong .

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is a MINI-LED , ADS / IPS based TV , not the VA type which was reviewed by Rtings.

And Samsung PR and CS or the technical team , please spend more time learning about your very own product .

To people who have accused me of being wrong , I hope the evidence is enough to clear up all the confusion .
Actually they did , via their spec sheets . Listed as " wide viewing angles "  , VA is usually listed as " Ultra wide " . They took the whole specification from Samsung HQ of Korea and UK but their CS , Technical department , PR keep telling others it is VA because what they did was googling to rtings . They don't exactly know what is the difference between two .  They have not even seen the TV I bet ya .
The 65 " I measured in homedec expo has a 2200 nits rating so it is a really bright TV . Unfortunately the black level still leave a lot to be desired .
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Brightness is blinding shocking.gif and the black level is great actually due to local dimming can't be turn off.

No other choice in terms of TV to choose from since I spend times using TV as monitor as well and don't want to risk burn-in using OLED panel. Yes I know there are a lot of safety precautions built into OLED but don't want to bother babying the TV, as the TV should work for me not the other way round hehe... Plus the games I play tends to have a lot of static image icon_idea.gif I believe ADS is good for my case since it is more suitable for reading text due to the sub-pixel arrangement.

Hopefully they will accept my second review as I want to help those who thought this is a proper VA and do not falls into Samsung trap. Shame on Samsung for rejecting my review which I believe is proper.

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post May 26 2021, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(y2ou @ May 26 2021, 08:51 PM)
Brightness is blinding shocking.gif and the black level is great actually due to local dimming can't be turn off.

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Well , the Mini-LED performs really well in a way it is much better than typical LCD and IPS monitors .

But on the standard of being a Samsung's 4k flagship , especially if you have seen the previous Q90R , they have much less blooming and deeper black than the QN90A .


Q90R can probably fool me as an OLED in a dimly lit room [not pitch black].

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post May 27 2021, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(y2ou @ May 26 2021, 04:14 PM)
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sorry for the noob question. What kind of DSLR camera lens/settings you use to take this sub pixel structure pic?
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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ May 27 2021, 06:47 PM)
sorry for the noob question. What kind of DSLR camera lens/settings you use to take this sub pixel structure pic?
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Just my phone with manual focus.
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QUOTE(Convael @ May 26 2021, 09:06 PM)
Well , the Mini-LED performs really well in a way it is much better than typical LCD and IPS monitors .

But on the standard of being a Samsung's 4k flagship , especially if you have seen the previous Q90R  , they have much less blooming and deeper black than the QN90A .
Q90R can probably fool me as an OLED in a dimly lit room [not pitch black].
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Wanted to get your opinion on a purchase Convael. Am offered a 55” Q95T for 5.5k and a 55” CX for 6.2k. Am leaning towards q95t because it’s a steal at the price + true HDR brightness. Is the PQ difference from q95t to a Cx worth rm700 more?
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post Jun 14 2021, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Jun 13 2021, 12:43 PM)
Wanted to get your opinion on a purchase Convael. Am offered a 55” Q95T for 5.5k and a 55” CX for 6.2k. Am leaning towards q95t because it’s a steal at the price + true HDR brightness. Is the PQ difference from q95t to a Cx worth rm700 more?
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The CX is a very versatile TV , Q95T is great performer in a bright room.


What we look for in HDR isn't just the brightness , we are looking the "Impact " , or the "Oomph" that convey realism in the picture .

As the title indicates , High Dynamic Range is measured from the deepest black to the brightest peak a screen can display .
Therefore , the contrast of the screen should also give you an idea how a TV will perform .


Q95T : 0.025 ~ 1500 cd/m2 = approx. 15000 : 1 contrast rating
CX : 0 [True black] ~ 700 cd/m2 = approx. 1000000 : 1 contrast rating , potentially infinite in a dark room .


Due to the nature of human eyes , we see more details in the darker side than in the brighter spectrum .
Therefore in terms of sheer HDR impact CX will almost always be the winner , the dimmer your room environment is .

But if you got a lit-up room particularly one with sunlight breach , the Q95T will serve you better .

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2021, 11:16 AM)
The CX is a very versatile TV  , Q95T is great performer in a bright room.
What we look for in HDR isn't just the brightness , we are looking the "Impact " , or the "Oomph" that convey realism in the picture .

As the title indicates , High Dynamic Range is measured from the deepest black to the brightest peak a screen can display .
Therefore , the contrast of the screen should also give you an idea how a TV will perform .
Q95T : 0.025 ~ 1500 cd/m2 = approx. 15000 : 1 contrast rating
CX : 0 [True black]  ~ 700 cd/m2 = approx. 1000000 : 1 contrast rating , potentially infinite in a dark room .
Due to the nature of human eyes , we see more details in the darker side than in the brighter spectrum .
Therefore in terms of sheer HDR impact CX will almost always be the winner , the dimmer your room environment is .

But if you got a lit-up room particularly one with sunlight breach , the Q95T will serve you better .
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Thanks for the reply. Sounds like I need to buy both, a CX for the bedroom and a q95t for the living room sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Jun 13 2021, 12:43 PM)
Wanted to get your opinion on a purchase Convael. Am offered a 55” Q95T for 5.5k and a 55” CX for 6.2k. Am leaning towards q95t because it’s a steal at the price + true HDR brightness. Is the PQ difference from q95t to a Cx worth rm700 more?
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Hi, where to get above offer ya?
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QUOTE(wai_lok @ Jun 14 2021, 11:12 PM)
Hi, where to get above offer ya?
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I chatted directly with a Desa Home sales rep and enquired. Pulled the trigger on the q95t with 0 panel hours.

Also quick review for anyone interested in a q95t , it’s definitely made for a room with lots of sunlight. Reflection handling is superb.

Conversely because the default movie HDR/SDR settings is relatively ‘bright’ by default, I needed to adjust the local dimming/brightness/contrast enchancer whenever the room is dim/dark as it can be quite glaring for the uninitiated. My panel also had noticeable DSE when panning across uniform shots like the blue/gray skies in 1917 (HDR10+ supported). The dark scenes was handled good with barely any noticeable blooming and detail for me was kept well.

Oh one other thing. Tizen OS sucks. Couldn’t get Samsung’s Plex version to work with my local server and all the other apps appear outdated/clunky. Used my google tv chromecast in lieu of, miles better.

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anyone owns a AU9000 TV?
I'm thinking about getting the 55" tv but I keep reading reviews that the sound quality is not that great

any feedback on that? thanks
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Hi, anyone did a test on Samsung TU8000 vs Q60A vs Q65A? Wondering how these 3 TVs perform against one another? I am looking at 55" and these are what I am currently shortlisting.

TU8000 is cheaper than the other 2 and not QLED. Is it worth to fork out the extra money for QLED? I would love to have a look it in store but it's FMCO now. Got a voucher code from their online store that's going to expire by end of this month so gotta ask online.

I can't find any youtube review on Q60A vs Q65A. Wondering what's the difference.

I am planning to play some games on the TV that I will be buying, steamlink from my PC for now and might get a PS5/xbox to play later.

Edit: lol I went through the spec between Q60A vs Q65A, apparently the difference is only the front bezel color. And a couple page back someone mentioned Q65 for Q symphony.

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post Jun 28 2021, 09:35 PM

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Can anyone confirm that the 85-inch QN90A is a VA panel? Gonna buy soon.
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post Jun 29 2021, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(dhouseng @ Jun 28 2021, 09:35 PM)
Can anyone confirm that the 85-inch QN90A is a VA panel? Gonna buy soon.
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No one makes 85 " IPS Panel in the industry . They have to be using VA .

Even their spec sheets listed " Ultra Viewing Angles " , an indication of them using VA plus wide angles screen filters .


If these aren't enough evidence , refer to the Samsung spare parts table which I have posted a while ago.

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