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Khairy Jamaluddin kena pulau, The last hope.
Khairy Jamaluddin kena pulau, The last hope.
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May 21 2018, 05:12 PM
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May 21 2018, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 21 2018, 05:06 PM) He only blend with young people. There are still sizeable voters other than young people. I think most people in UMNO still cannot forget his reputation as the 4th Floor Boys of Pak Lah. They still believe that their current downfall should be traced back to failure of Pak Lah.People still see him as protege of Pak Lah which is not in a good way. His influence within UMNO is pretty low and you can't make it past PRU15 if you estimate BN will lose it again. Here is my take of how BN/UMNO can survive. Abandon UMNO. It is a rotten name. Consolidate all parties into a single party, BN. Work out from there. Be the multiracial party everyone want to see in Malaysia. Be a smart opposition in the parliament. Time for Malaysian politics move forward. We want to have Republican & Democrat style of fight here. Both as viable alternative to each other. |
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May 21 2018, 05:13 PM
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May 21 2018, 05:15 PM
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No need to open tered on this guy already lah....they are all old news.
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May 21 2018, 05:15 PM
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May 21 2018, 05:18 PM
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he can join parti kunci
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May 21 2018, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ May 21 2018, 05:11 PM) KJ? if not due to 3 corners flight in rembau.... he can kiss his MP post good bye... u think zahid and hisammuddin will let him to get the top post so easily while all the old dogs patiently waiting for so long.... Bagus....UMNO wont be able to reform with old dogs in control. Cukur. |
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May 21 2018, 05:24 PM
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lol
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May 21 2018, 05:28 PM
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May 21 2018, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 21 2018, 04:53 PM) UMNO is still trapped feudalistic ideology of how a political party should works. The top brass are still 'aristocrats' of politics, including KJ. it's asian politics le. You cannot, and will not, escape some form of feudalisms and aristocrats in any SEA countries. for you to break the status quo is almost impossible.Point is, Malaysian politics is moving towards people centric mindset while UMNO still thinks the power is their inheritence. Just listen to all so called leaders in UMNO. They talk as if people robbed them their rights. I predict the demise of BN in the next GE and the slow and painful death of UMNO after that if all current leaders are still there, including KJ. mamakthir-mukhriz anwar-izzah lks-lge royalties etc look at most asean histories. anybody who people thought were good, in the end, turned to shit. any SEA countries. it's never about just malaysian politics. it's just our politics. thai, pinoy, indon, sama la. from top to mid gomen, all same. |
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May 21 2018, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(lulz @ May 21 2018, 05:11 PM) Lol, thats not moving forward. Its pretty much Republican vs Democrat all this time here in malaysia. Err, he was clearly taking about the freedom of criticizing parties and the government, the neutrality of the EC, the freedom of the media to express support/disdain for parties. In case you haven't noticed, we've only just left a party that's been ruling for 5 decades, one of the longest, with an iron clad grasp on the media, the EC and the courts.Also, even now, the government in question is a coalition, something that doesn't exist in the two-party system ala in the States, for better or worse. This post has been edited by DeerCollision: May 21 2018, 05:30 PM |
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May 21 2018, 05:29 PM
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KJ, if the elders don't want to change, you can be Mahathir 2.0 and invoke UMNO 3.0.
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May 21 2018, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ May 21 2018, 05:29 PM) not enough capital and manpowerwhy do you think these parties all got scandals? because running a party is fking expensive. if it's too early nanti jadi semangat 46 la. he knows that. |
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May 21 2018, 05:33 PM
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Padan mukak
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May 21 2018, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(DeerCollision @ May 21 2018, 05:29 PM) Err, he was clearly taking about the freedom of criticizing parties and the government, the neutrality of the EC, the freedom of the media to express support/disdain for parties. Where have you been? Freedom to criticize is already here, online. People used fb.whatapps, freemalaysiatoday, mkini, malayinsider,etc for a long time already more than mainstream news. There are gerrymandering in the usa too. Two party in america is same shit like here, better a coalition than some monolith shit in my opinion. |
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May 21 2018, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Bleauet @ May 21 2018, 03:12 PM) ![]() BN dah jatuh. Walaupun selepas kalah teruk dalam Pilihan Raya ke-14, ramai pemimpin atasan masih lagi belum bangkit dari mimpi. Mereka masih rasa cara mereka relevan. Tapi di antara pemimpin atasan Barisan Nasional, hanya ada seorang yang dah buka mata dan nampak. Dan bersedia untuk berubah. I give PH 2 terms before they will fall. People in PH will start fighting for position. Whoever does not get what they want, will sabotage the one who get. Due to too many inexperience in PH, we can see many bad judgement by them. Syed Saddiq will become history, yes he can debate well, but with no experience in real life industry before, at age of 25, there is not much he can do. So by 10 years, Umno would have changed a lot. People will be looking for new alternatives and PAS will of course be out of equation. And during that time, with election that is no longer rigged, i believe Umno will win back Malaysia. With a few newly formed party, mostly dropouts from PH, MCA and MIC. Khairy Jamaluddin ain't saint. But so does Tun.M and Anwar. I believe he got what it takes to become the 9th Prime Minister of Malaysia. Should Khairy Jamaluddin choose to contest in Umno leadership, i will give him my utmost support. In cyber arena or in real life. |
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May 21 2018, 05:35 PM
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too bad . the apple is already rotten. better jump to a fresh apple. KJ
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May 21 2018, 05:35 PM
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May 21 2018, 05:35 PM
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May 21 2018, 05:36 PM
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