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 War40K: Dawn of War Winter Assault / Dark Crusade, Official Dawn of War Msia Thread (RTS)V4

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post Sep 19 2007, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Waba @ Sep 19 2007, 09:54 AM)
Then wat is this then?

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I really want Tyranids,not Dark Eldar.

Besides,heard that this expansion is not made by Relic.It's made by some third party developer.

I just hope they fix up all the DC's issues and patch the game more often after release of SS.
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post Sep 19 2007, 10:50 AM

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I just hope this one got better balance between races,get rid of lame spy and get some multiplayer online system that is not too hard to configure and improve the original 4 race's models and animation.

The original 4 race's models and animation looks terrible if you compare them to IG,Tau or Crons.

I was hoping for a community expansion than this.Something like what Epic did few years ago,add some stuff like new vehicles and maps into UT and put all the good mods made by the community into the disc.
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post Sep 19 2007, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 19 2007, 12:35 PM)
Well any news about Relic's opinion or say on this?
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Buggo have posted:

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Hi everyone, I've been asked to let you know more information is on the way. Sorry for the radio silence!


Source: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php...0&page=15&pp=15

Seems true to me.The screenshots look real too and looks much better the DE mod.
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post Sep 19 2007, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 19 2007, 02:04 PM)
Dude, seriously....you being one of the veterans of this game, i didnt expect to hear comments such as this from you.....atleast you could wait till it comes out to pass your pessimistic comments.......I honestly would like to see what else they could do n wait for it to come out before i pass my comments on this......atleast there are ppl out there that still see the value in DOW.......and there are also ppl out there that still play DOW for casual play.........

It just looks to me that youre becoming more EA.........thinking churning out games regardless whether they are good gameplay or not and just as long it has eye candy....ppl will buy.....
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For me,i dont really have high hopes on SS.I would prefer to have DoW2 than this.I guess THQ/Relic wants to bring all the main race to DoW before they move on to DoW2.Now,only the Nids arent in the game and it seems like they gonna bring it to the game in the 4th??? expansion.

The same cycle that WA and DC gone though will happen again.Initial release imba as hell,1 or more patches later,then stop patching while there are still some issues left to be fixed and it never be a perfectly balanced game.I think i still stick to balance mods and,hopefully beta test race mods.

Anyway,i do hope the third party developer will add some new graphical features like pixel shader and bump mapping to DoW because the engine had started to show it's age.Also,i would want to see them fixing DC imba issues and those no brainer bugs while keeping the DC race design in SS.I also hope that engine tools will come out when SS release.

I'll definitely still play SS when it comes out casually.Warhammer Universe is still interesting for me.
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post Sep 21 2007, 12:56 PM

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Haih,still no info on Soul Storm.
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post Sep 21 2007, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Kimballsos @ Sep 20 2007, 09:19 PM)
Horus Heresy: Collected Visions

Here is a book about everything you need/want to know about horus heresy. pretty expansive tough.
The novel's are a more detailed version of what happend. and this 400 over A4 pages are just the synopsis of what happend in the Horus Heresy...

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Where can i get this book?How much will it cost?

QUOTE(Waba @ Sep 21 2007, 01:23 PM)
We have no need to look it up.

We have an excellent forward scout: Cheesenium  smile.gif
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Since when i become the Scout of LYNK.
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post Sep 23 2007, 01:25 PM

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Ok,manage to scoop up something for SS.

1.SS is developed by Iron Lore Entertainment(developers for Titan Quest)

2.It will be released in March 2008.

3,All the race will have flying units.

Honestly,im not impressed.Titan Quest was a bad game for me and adding flying units will mean massive changes in balance and race design.GG to the DoWPro and DoWXP team.
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post Sep 23 2007, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Sep 23 2007, 03:24 PM)
Air units!! This might look intresting.

Hmm You can call a ThunderHawk!! Infinite OB!!

But iam worried having Air Battle  as it isnt in the T.T element. Having air units require you to have AA units which WH40K dont have much emphasive.
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Im not sure is it only for campaign or for skirmish/multiplayer games.Dont really sound impressive to me but i'll hold on till i see more.
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post Sep 24 2007, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Waba @ Sep 23 2007, 07:29 PM)
Air elements?

I will guess it will be like the strifing run in COH.
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Then,that wont be much difference than the current IG General's Strafing Run.

I think the air units will have a bigger role.


Added on September 24, 2007, 12:40 pmThere are shit loads of rumor in RN.One of them is there could be a 9th race.Could be the Tyranids or the Witch Hunters due to the disappearance of the mod.

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post Sep 24 2007, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 24 2007, 03:09 PM)
Ever since, we noticed you tend to dig out info from all corners of the globe to inform this thread.......we do appreciate it..
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Yeah,i tend to lurk more than playing games.Anyway,it's an honor to serve the Emperor.
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post Sep 24 2007, 05:32 PM

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Even though is a blur video,this trailer shows that DE are in SS.Purple colour fx(none of the current race use purple fx.Chaos use mostly red/pink,Crons are green and Tau use blue) and a Talos(a DE scorpion like skimmer).I think i can safely confirm that there is an expansion for DoW and DE is one of the new race.



Some of the pics from a german mag:

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I hope the Tyranids are in too.

Me want Tyranids!!!
Me want Tyranids!!!
Me want Tyranids!!!
Me want Tyranids!!!
Me want Tyranids!!!
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post Sep 24 2007, 06:17 PM

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Thanks,redeye,for fixing the video.

As far as i know,no one has the proper video yet because THQ didnt release the video.

Im also looking for the video.It's very clear that DE is in the game adi but i still want to see more.



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post Sep 26 2007, 11:57 AM

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Scout reporting for duty...

I got more information about Soul Storm:

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From Games for Windows article:

"So that is the new playing field in SS: A star system called Kauvara, consisting of 4 planets and 3 moons spread out over 31 territories, in which gamers will now do battle."

"Joining the slaughter this time are 2 more races - the dark eldar and a yet-to-be named second race. The DE are the darker, eviler version of the elf-like eldar - agressive pirate raiders. Most crucially, they have the unique ability to consume souls. When infantry die, they leave behind a purple mist called "soul essence" that only DE players can see and then harvest as a 3rd resource, which they can then use to purchase powerful global abilities called soul powers."

"Further complicating the balance issues is the addition for the 1st time of air units. Every race is getting them in SS except fot the necron. Air units won't be affected by terrain, and therefore can go everywhere on the map. They won't be squad based, nor will they be able to capture control points - but they will be able to destroy structures built on them."

"Speaking at multiplayer, relic is introducing a Battlefield 2-style reward system for online play. The new system will award medals for a variety of archivements-such as winning 10 ranked games in a row, or winning a ranked game with a 5-to-1 kill ratio."

Stand alone expansion


Seems like all the current race get a balance and race design revamp.Love DE,though and hope the second race is Tyranids.

Hope they will get the balance right this time.

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post Sep 26 2007, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Sep 26 2007, 01:13 PM)
What could the 2nd race be??
As in real life football or Winning eleven?
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I hope it's the Tyranids.I want Tyranids and the Nids can fully take advantage of the flying units system.

I think it's Winning Eleven.Doubt that king_kong will organise real football tournaments.


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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 26 2007, 01:16 PM)
Thanks for the info.....however, i think balance will be worked gradually by the new dev teams....we just have to hope that they do it good.....
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Yeah,i hope they will get the balance right too.No more stupid imbas but how the hell they gonna balance 9 races?There are so many match ups to do and things to balance.Not to forget about the new air units which require more balancing.

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post Sep 26 2007, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Sep 26 2007, 01:38 PM)
9 races... O_o Interesting yet complicating... interesting in the sense that I can expand my hobby with 2 more different set of skulls, complicating in the sense of you need different skill set to get those new skulls....

What other race left to be added to this new expansion other than nids ??
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Having 9 races is like having a double edged sword.The game gets more fun and fresh but you have to suffer the horrible imbas.

The devs can add Tyranids,Squats(space dwarfs but dead now),Witch Hunter,or a proper Inquisition "race" and some other unknown race that i have never heard off.

I still want Nids.

QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 26 2007, 01:49 PM)
Think of it this way...this dev will not be spending most of its time making a new game but rather proving itself by patching the game that they have already done......still lets wait and be patient, in time all will be revealed......
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I hope Iron Lore will patch this game properly and fix the no-brainer bugs.Hope this time Relic really prove me wrong and they are actually good developers.

Anyway,im gonna be missing for a few days till monday.My com seems to have some booting problem again.It seems like it requires extermination to solve the problem.

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post Sep 26 2007, 07:36 PM

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Ok,Soul Storm is confirmed.There is a 3rd expansion for DoW.

Gamespot

Buggo's Podcast on SS

One comment so far,DE's units are really ugly.No wonder some people dont want DE in DoW.
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post Sep 27 2007, 09:42 AM

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It's actually Relic outsource Iron Lore to do the job.

I think this time is another different producer.
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post Sep 27 2007, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Sep 27 2007, 09:43 AM)
Are you sure ?? They are the developer for Titan Quest.. rclxub.gif Looks like another small studio....  they doesnt look any better than Relic to me though..
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Yeah,thats why im unimpressed with their work so far.The screenshots are bad and adding air units are unnecessary.
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post Sep 27 2007, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 27 2007, 01:59 PM)
It will still run on gamespy unless they change the network code and port it to relic servers...
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I have a feeling that they will still use GS.Dont think they got enough time to change GS's net code to Relic server's code.They have less than 1/2 a year now.
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 28 2007, 12:17 PM)
But still with the new dev, they may have the option to port it to relic's servers......increasing the value of DOW to the online scene......Maybe a little persuasion from the fans of the game would encourage them to do so.....if they do it.....it will be a huge patch....
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True,but the problem is is there enough time to implement all the features?We have air unit which needs lots of coding,2 new races,9 race's balance,a meta map campaign(hopefully it's good) and now if they want to port from GS to Relic Online.Dont you think there is lots of work to do in less than 1/2 a year's time.I really dont want to see bugs similar to HWT targeting bugs in SS.

I would rather prefer them to take out the meta map campaign and use the time to fine tune the balance and race design.Also,change to a easier to configure and stable online system.

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