DBKL area Projects ON HOLD, for example?
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 May 14 2018, 03:24 PM, updated 8y ago
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According to Malaysiakini
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/424774 DBKL will put HOLD on unapproved proposals, hillslope, and public space projects. Any idea which ones? This post has been edited by Babablacksheep: May 14 2018, 03:26 PM |
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May 14 2018, 07:03 PM
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i guess is ALL project in KL.
those worst hit are Aset Kayamas, JL 99 etc those 'very friend' with Tengku Adnan This post has been edited by forever1979: May 14 2018, 07:04 PM |
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May 14 2018, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ May 14 2018, 07:03 PM) i guess is ALL project in KL. akisama, pavillion ESPECIALLY, even tiu ma sing, OCRthose worst hit are Aset Kayamas, JL 99 etc those 'very friend' with Tengku Adnan  |
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May 14 2018, 07:55 PM
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Curb them supply
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May 14 2018, 08:31 PM
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Most likely AK projects since they very active in KL
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May 14 2018, 09:24 PM
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Yes, should stop it, over supply, all jam
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May 14 2018, 09:43 PM
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Omg... will AK proj affected?
Should stop Holmes 2 at Bandar Tun Razak; hijacked ppl football field! |
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May 14 2018, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ May 14 2018, 07:39 PM) akisama, pavillion ESPECIALLY, even tiu ma sing, OCR Y pavilion, already 50% |
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May 14 2018, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ May 14 2018, 09:43 PM) Omg... will AK proj affected? already built, the more they stop, the more Rakyat will suffer.Should stop Holmes 2 at Bandar Tun Razak; hijacked ppl football field! |
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May 15 2018, 01:24 AM
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those progressing over 50% should be non issues (I guess)
only those in planning stage should get the hit... |
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May 15 2018, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ May 14 2018, 07:03 PM) i guess is ALL project in KL. JL 99 straight away changed the signboard at the new taman there from I Love BN to I Love 99. those worst hit are Aset Kayamas, JL 99 etc those 'very friend' with Tengku Adnan Haha.  |
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May 15 2018, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ May 14 2018, 07:03 PM) i guess is ALL project in KL. JL99..the one that recently open the outdoor park one right?? wanted to go when free but damn jammed and no car park..those worst hit are Aset Kayamas, JL 99 etc those 'very friend' with Tengku Adnan |
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May 15 2018, 09:14 AM
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Wanna go JL99 outdoor park, take photo with big "I Love PM" signboard, misses it during opening .......
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May 15 2018, 09:29 AM
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That AK please close shop. At the same time investigate them kaokao and dig out all the hundreds of millions that are given under table
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May 15 2018, 10:07 AM
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Ini kalilah! Huehuehue
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May 15 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 15 2018, 08:06 AM) JL 99 straight away changed the signboard at the new taman there from I Love BN to I Love 99. Haha.  can share the photos? |
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May 15 2018, 11:05 AM
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Malton - TTDI land is very obvious kena liao
Others i'm not sure, especially PV, AK, JL 99 |
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May 15 2018, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 15 2018, 10:05 AM) Malton - TTDI land is very obvious kena liao Still got many! Please review and reduce all the plot ratio and density, especially those 40-50floors affordable house, sekian terima kasih, धनà¥à¤¯à¤µà¤¾à¤¦ ðŸ™ðŸ¼ !Others i'm not sure, especially PV, AK, JL 99 |
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May 15 2018, 11:26 AM
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Oh and stop building houses or high-rise on hill top already.
Those that are rich just wait to buy all the presales properties |
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May 15 2018, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 09:29 AM) That AK please close shop. At the same time investigate them kaokao and dig out all the hundreds of millions that are given under table How about PV? |
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May 15 2018, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 10:26 AM) Oh and stop building houses or high-rise on hill top already. Maxim, Mayland, Mah Sing, Binastra, Mitraland, Titijaya Land, Mayland, Ekovest and Metro Kajang, how?Those that are rich just wait to buy all the presales properties |
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May 15 2018, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(grim.fandango @ May 15 2018, 11:29 AM) How about PV? QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ May 15 2018, 11:30 AM) Maxim, Mayland, Mah Sing, Binastra, Mitraland, Titijaya Land, Mayland, Ekovest and Metro Kajang, how? You guys wanna compare the amount of projects launched within 2 years with all those developers you mentioned with AK? When was AK established and how many projects have been launched? |
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May 15 2018, 11:35 AM
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Is the River Of Life project under DBKL also?
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May 15 2018, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 11:34 AM) You guys wanna compare the amount of projects launched within 2 years with all those developers you mentioned with AK? My bad.When was AK established and how many projects have been launched? It is amusing seeing how AK buyer panas bontot now in property sub. |
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May 15 2018, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 15 2018, 11:35 AM) Is the River Of Life project under DBKL also? I think river of life is under ekovest |
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May 15 2018, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 15 2018, 11:35 AM) Is the River Of Life project under DBKL also? Yeah. And it's managed by ekovest |
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May 15 2018, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(grim.fandango @ May 15 2018, 11:38 AM) My bad. Cant blame them. They've thrown their cash to such property then expect something when things go downhill. Especially those developers that jilat BN kawkaw like all these newbies developers It is amusing seeing how AK buyer panas bontot now in property sub. I'm actually amused by those buyers who dare to buy from a developer that has zero track record. Not even a single project was finished in the last year except for that BJ one. But the prices have played the buyers well lol This post has been edited by Quang1819: May 15 2018, 11:43 AM |
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May 15 2018, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 11:39 AM) Yeah. And it's managed by ekovest Still on or canned? |
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May 15 2018, 11:46 AM
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Speaking of River of Life. I do think that this project creates a lot of potential if it is well managed, maintained and more fancy stuffs like more greens are added to it. The river can be dug deeper and put some fishes then add one some sampan sailors, more trees and flowers around with sustainable eco system. At the same time have some more shops built right beside it just like those European style river
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May 15 2018, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 15 2018, 11:44 AM) Still on or canned? So far still on-going and project expected to completes in 2020 |
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May 15 2018, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 11:48 AM) So far still on-going and project expected to completes in 2020 Good to know. Time to chase for payment. |
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May 15 2018, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 11:42 AM) Cant blame them. They've thrown their cash to such property then expect something when things go downhill. Especially those developers that jilat BN kawkaw like all these newbies developers to be fair their completed projects all in majority not too bad in quality compared to a 500k similar sized condo... and early completion also let the buyers saved alot of interest... they have few projects completed like pandanmas 1 and 2, parkhill, ppa1m, puchongmas, sentulmas... at least gt 5 liao... I'm actually amused by those buyers who dare to buy from a developer that has zero track record. Not even a single project was finished in the last year except for that BJ one. But the prices have played the buyers well lol but now no more AK in future also tak pe... rumawip programs will still keep going on under new gomen... haha... maybe will be getting better quality developers to build... but brand names comes at a cost also.... |
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May 15 2018, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(doggmeister @ May 15 2018, 11:48 AM) if only this will be done....i can say for sure this will never happen! People are too short sighted and only out for themselves, they wont think how much value this will add to KL.. yet Singapore knows the value of bringing nature and city life together in an amazing way. and i can speak to this as i have a unit in brickfields and have to see that awful river every day. I never consider it as a river. It's basically a huge drain for now, and for what AECOM has done, the drain only looks better during night because of the lighting and nothing else. They have never done anything designing other than putting some colourful led bars yet it costs half a billion for that small stretch of drain |
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May 15 2018, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 11:55 AM) to be fair their completed projects all in majority not too bad in quality compared to a 500k similar sized condo... and early completion also let the buyers saved alot of interest... they have few projects completed like pandanmas 1 and 2, parkhill, ppa1m, puchongmas, sentulmas... at least gt 5 liao... All those 5 completed in this year right? but now no more AK in future also tak pe... rumawip programs will still keep going on under new gomen... haha... maybe will be getting better quality developers to build... but brand names comes at a cost also....  |
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May 15 2018, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 11:55 AM) to be fair their completed projects all in majority not too bad in quality compared to a 500k similar sized condo... and early completion also let the buyers saved alot of interest... they have few projects completed like pandanmas 1 and 2, parkhill, ppa1m, puchongmas, sentulmas... at least gt 5 liao... All those 5 completed in this year right? but now no more AK in future also tak pe... rumawip programs will still keep going on under new gomen... haha... maybe will be getting better quality developers to build... but brand names comes at a cost also.... |
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May 15 2018, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 12:00 PM) All those 5 completed in this year right? pandanmas 1 one year earlier... the rest all on this year or even end of last year....  pandanmas 1 owners din complaint like what the MKH or MS buyers did on the social media.... |
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May 15 2018, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 12:02 PM) pandanmas 1 one year earlier... the rest all on this year or even end of last year.... Yeah I only remember PandanMas was completed last year. pandanmas 1 owners din complaint like what the MKH or MS buyers did on the social media....MS no need to say lah haha. Wait until they get one MCT, maybe they'll start appreciating MS abit by then |
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May 15 2018, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 12:20 PM) Yeah I only remember PandanMas was completed last year. oh yeah MCT.... another shit...MS no need to say lah haha. Wait until they get one MCT, maybe they'll start appreciating MS abit by then but in term of pro BN developers... the quality of skyworld and JL99 seems getting alot more beatings recently also... especially the complaints on skyawani and the lake park... |
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May 15 2018, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 10:46 AM) Speaking of River of Life. I do think that this project creates a lot of potential if it is well managed, maintained and more fancy stuffs like more greens are added to it. The river can be dug deeper and put some fishes then add one some sampan sailors, more trees and flowers around with sustainable eco system. At the same time have some more shops built right beside it just like those European style river The water spray help to reduce the surrounding heat, the plants help to purify the air, nice and solid bench to sleep, got music to release stress and improve health..I represent all the petaling street beggars to thanks them provide such a wonderful place This post has been edited by m0n0p0ly: May 15 2018, 12:53 PM |
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May 15 2018, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 12:23 PM) oh yeah MCT.... another shit... Hm... Skyworld awani? but in term of pro BN developers... the quality of skyworld and JL99 seems getting alot more beatings recently also... especially the complaints on skyawani and the lake park... Those are small time only. Big time ones like SP setia (forced to be GLC lol), naza and ekovest are the big licker of BN |
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May 15 2018, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 11:55 AM) to be fair their completed projects all in majority not too bad in quality compared to a 500k similar sized condo... and early completion also let the buyers saved alot of interest... they have few projects completed like pandanmas 1 and 2, parkhill, ppa1m, puchongmas, sentulmas... at least gt 5 liao... + Razakmas & Holmes.. VP May but now no more AK in future also tak pe... rumawip programs will still keep going on under new gomen... haha... maybe will be getting better quality developers to build... but brand names comes at a cost also.... |
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May 15 2018, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 12:23 PM) oh yeah MCT.... another shit... For Skyworld, I recall that their Ascenda turned out to be of good quality, and the same can be said of JL99's The Reach. They could've used different contractors for both Skyawani and Lake Park. but in term of pro BN developers... the quality of skyworld and JL99 seems getting alot more beatings recently also... especially the complaints on skyawani and the lake park... This post has been edited by DesRed: May 15 2018, 01:50 PM |
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May 15 2018, 02:48 PM
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Meanwhile... arte Cheras is in process of fencing & JKR workshop demolition while arte X is still silent...
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May 15 2018, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 15 2018, 01:49 PM) For Skyworld, I recall that their Ascenda turned out to be of good quality, and the same can be said of JL99's The Reach. They could've used different contractors for both Skyawani and Lake Park. yea... thats why no perfect developer unless the developer is main con itself... like binastra kenwingston etc... those who sub-con out...u will found out alot of quality issues from their projects... even for those big developer like SPS EW SDB.... no perfect developer when they dont do it themselves... |
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May 15 2018, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 03:48 PM) yea... thats why no perfect developer unless the developer is main con itself... like binastra kenwingston etc... those who sub-con out...u will found out alot of quality issues from their projects... even for those big developer like SPS EW SDB.... no perfect developer when they dont do it themselves... We do have perfect developer If in house quality control team is strong like gamuda brdb. |
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May 15 2018, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 15 2018, 03:36 PM) We do have perfect developer If in house quality control team is strong like gamuda brdb. You didnt know the Gamuda story. Those Gamuda purchasers purposely bought few shares to attend their AGM and complaints about their "quality". They toilet flush cant even flush~ This is what i heard from my friend of Auditors when they attend the AGM meeting for Gamuda. |
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May 15 2018, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Jszeon @ May 15 2018, 04:40 PM) You didnt know the Gamuda story. Those Gamuda purchasers purposely bought few shares to attend their AGM and complaints about their "quality". That one is thier design failure at thier early bandar botanic project. Gamuda though of think out of box. Start new design with European method. It is disaster.They toilet flush cant even flush~ This is what i heard from my friend of Auditors when they attend the AGM meeting for Gamuda. After that incident they are a bit conservative about imposed new design into thier township. You cannot judge one phase project and put the rest 100 over as quality inferior right? |
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May 15 2018, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 15 2018, 03:44 PM) That one is thier design failure at thier early bandar botanic project. Gamuda though of think out of box. Start new design with European method. It is disaster. I wld say Gamuda quality is not bad but not excellent like some overseas built homes.After that incident they are a bit conservative about imposed new design into thier township. You cannot judge one phase project and put the rest 100 over as quality inferior right? 1st glance, it was rather nice but after 6 months or so, you can see rain sipping thru windows, wall got water mark and etc. yes I was a buyer of Gamuda project. but generally it looks better than rest of top 10 developers in Malaysia. |
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May 15 2018, 04:37 PM
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how bout parking
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May 15 2018, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(pronester @ May 15 2018, 04:37 PM) how bout parking what parking??u mean the multi level parking projects mooted by Ku Nan previously? should be non issues I guess.. unless there's elements of corruptions involved  |
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May 15 2018, 10:29 PM
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what about the large development by country gardens in taman wahyu? does that fall under DBKL land too?
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May 16 2018, 03:31 PM
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https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2018/05/...h-rm428-billion
MACC report lodged against Ku Nan over land sale worth RM4.28 billion This time is real... This post has been edited by Babablacksheep: May 16 2018, 03:34 PM |
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May 16 2018, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 15 2018, 09:29 AM) That AK please close shop. At the same time investigate them kaokao and dig out all the hundreds of millions that are given under table AK in some deep trouble it seems. |
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May 16 2018, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Hofmann33 @ May 16 2018, 06:09 PM) AK in some deep trouble it seems. Same as EW that has given about 130M just for bribing the Johor chief minister |
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May 16 2018, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ May 16 2018, 03:31 PM) https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2018/05/...h-rm428-billion confirmed AK & Ku Nan having sleepless night today MACC report lodged against Ku Nan over land sale worth RM4.28 billion This time is real... jail waiting for them |
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May 16 2018, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ May 14 2018, 07:39 PM) akisama, pavillion ESPECIALLY, even tiu ma sing, OCR Akisama ..no wonder. No matter how we complained to dbkl pn how they cheated us .. no response no action. Nothing. I think now can try again to make report. |
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May 16 2018, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 15 2018, 11:55 AM) to be fair their completed projects all in majority not too bad in quality compared to a 500k similar sized condo... and early completion also let the buyers saved alot of interest... they have few projects completed like pandanmas 1 and 2, parkhill, ppa1m, puchongmas, sentulmas... at least gt 5 liao... bro, so indirectly you are saying; those who get rumawip prior to BN loss, is a win for them? haha but now no more AK in future also tak pe... rumawip programs will still keep going on under new gomen... haha... maybe will be getting better quality developers to build... but brand names comes at a cost also.... |
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May 17 2018, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(trust4you @ May 16 2018, 10:44 PM) bro, so indirectly you are saying; those who get rumawip prior to BN loss, is a win for them? haha Well, according to the edgeprop link being circulating around the different threads here about Lim Lip Eng lodging a report to the MACC regarding the RM 4.28b land sale, he specifically mentioned this:QUOTE “For RUMAWIP that are already completed [or still under construction], they can still proceed. Those are public housing for the benefit of the people, even though the whole procedure and transaction was wrong. So, let them proceed and complete and let the buyers get their houses. “What we are talking about is to go after the developers and person involved in this case. And we also want MACC and DBKL to stop those projects that have not started construction, such as the Taman Rimba Kiara project,†he explained. So that means those which are under-con will not be disturbed, but those which have yet to do any construction on it, then they're in trouble. Just have to refer to the list to see which RUMAWIP will be in trouble. This post has been edited by DesRed: May 17 2018, 09:06 AM |
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May 17 2018, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ May 14 2018, 07:39 PM) akisama, pavillion ESPECIALLY, even tiu ma sing, OCR Mah sing and OCR too? |
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May 17 2018, 09:21 AM
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i think projects that somehow bypass certain requirements because they are friends with the previous gov...development order was given by certain individuals for kickbacks...
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May 17 2018, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(trust4you @ May 16 2018, 10:44 PM) bro, so indirectly you are saying; those who get rumawip prior to BN loss, is a win for them? haha yeah... definitely... so far the rumawip delivery of AK is quite good... those that completed really earn jor... we wont know what will be the future rumawip launching be like... but affordable housing definitely wont be at the top of the list for current gomen... given alot of the lands will be part of MACC investigation... the market can now slowly digest all the current rumawip supplies first and most of them in good locations of KL... |
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May 17 2018, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 16 2018, 06:43 PM) Same as EW that has given about 130M just for bribing the Johor chief minister Oh mann. What a shake up. |
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May 17 2018, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ May 16 2018, 06:43 PM) Same as EW that has given about 130M just for bribing the Johor chief minister Sure the money went to Johor MB Just saying.... |
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May 17 2018, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 17 2018, 02:33 PM) Sure the money went to Johor MB And the... Nevermind. Don't wanna get locked upJust saying.... |
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May 17 2018, 08:18 PM
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Current half way project developer will be evil smile at the back since no new launch will be versus them
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May 17 2018, 08:20 PM
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Back to the topic, will it be good for current project which is running?
Personally think it will indirectly help current market to digest all the property that is empty and also will help in capital appreciation |
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May 17 2018, 11:39 PM
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How to build rumah mampu if land price expensive
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May 18 2018, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ May 17 2018, 11:39 PM) How to build rumah mampu if land price expensive I'm sure DBKL could've granted a lower selling price for the land for this particular purpose, the same case for a plot of land sold for religious purposes as I read in one article somewhere (can't recall the link, tho).But right now, Pakatan is focused on investigating the rampant sale of land by DBKL under Ku Nan's watch. The question is whether those sales which involves constructing Rumawips followed standard procedures or not. Have to wait for MACC to conclude their investigation. |
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May 18 2018, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 18 2018, 08:34 AM) I'm sure DBKL could've granted a lower selling price for the land for this particular purpose, the same case for a plot of land sold for religious purposes as I read in one article somewhere (can't recall the link, tho). normally subsidies the developer.But right now, Pakatan is focused on investigating the rampant sale of land by DBKL under Ku Nan's watch. The question is whether those sales which involves constructing Rumawips followed standard procedures or not. Have to wait for MACC to conclude their investigation. |
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May 18 2018, 05:39 PM
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hmm... if let say projects really on hold, how about buyers? n loans??
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May 19 2018, 12:32 PM
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De kunan speaks...
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May 19 2018, 12:42 PM
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Rumah percuma.. wow
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May 19 2018, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 19 2018, 12:32 PM) De kunan speaks... still using language that only kampong folks will fall for.
answer terus why dbkl using middleman buying off land from dbkl and made ton of millions baru sell to developers? why happens to the money middleman earned? give to kampong folks or poorer folks? |
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May 19 2018, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(Dinoboy @ May 18 2018, 05:39 PM) hmm... if let say projects really on hold, how about buyers? n loans?? They only stop projects that have yet to be given apporval. If you are already paying interest in your loan means the development already approve and under construction. Wont be out to halt. |
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May 19 2018, 03:08 PM
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Hahaha..
Ku Nan doing some damage control... Too late boss... Every shits is coming out soon.. U wait & see... |
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May 19 2018, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 19 2018, 03:08 PM) Hahaha.. he said i dun have any wrongdoing Ku Nan doing some damage control... Too late boss... Every shits is coming out soon.. U wait & see... |
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May 19 2018, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ May 19 2018, 04:29 PM) he said i dun have any wrongdoing Nsjib also said like that previously.. Now see what happens |
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May 19 2018, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ May 19 2018, 04:29 PM) he said i dun have any wrongdoing Ok, Ku NAN cleared himself of any wrongdoing. Najib and Apandi also cleared themselves. |
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May 19 2018, 07:13 PM
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Wa so Noble...must win Nobel prize
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May 19 2018, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 19 2018, 12:32 PM) De kunan speaks... Folks this is how a thick face person speak out when allegation throw at him.
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 02:35 AM) CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk! Geng! Must give your work many likes. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thank you very much! |
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 01:35 AM) CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk! Thanks very much for the detailed writeup. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  As for The Valleys @ SkySierra, I always thought that is under Setiawangsa, not Setapak. From my last visit, the sales staff stationed there pointed out that it is 1,300 units in total spanning across 4 blocks. Started doing the piling dy and out of the 1st 2 blocks launched, Block A nearly sold out while Block B is gaining momentum. The details seem to match SkyMeridien, but that is under Sentul and the density is just 780 units. Started doing the piling as well and only Block A launched, which I saw was more than 50% sold. |
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May 20 2018, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 01:35 AM) CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk! ðŸ‘🻠Thanks for sharing! So what going to happen for those projects that launched but no activity yet?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 20 2018, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 20 2018, 10:26 AM) Thanks very much for the detailed writeup. Yeah seems like i've mistaken, should be SkyMeridien instead of SkySierra. Will amend in next revision.As for The Valleys @ SkySierra, I always thought that is under Setiawangsa, not Setapak. From my last visit, the sales staff stationed there pointed out that it is 1,300 units in total spanning across 4 blocks. Started doing the piling dy and out of the 1st 2 blocks launched, Block A nearly sold out while Block B is gaining momentum. The details seem to match SkyMeridien, but that is under Sentul and the density is just 780 units. Started doing the piling as well and only Block A launched, which I saw was more than 50% sold. |
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 01:35 AM) CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk! Wah.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks for the info... |
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May 20 2018, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 01:35 AM) CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk! Thank you for the great effort. 100 likes for you.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 20 2018, 12:42 PM
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just be careful.
developers can charge you for defamation and lost of biz. that's why DAP never releases the name of developers. |
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May 20 2018, 03:32 PM
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they dare to LOD??
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May 20 2018, 05:08 PM
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CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk!
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Unfortunately i'm just one of the many buyers whom is caught in this tangle of mess and hence decided to research in depth regarding this matter, in the meantime helping other buyers to clear the air if they had any queries whether their purchase is part of the list. It's basically just a compilation of all the information scattered and readily available over the internet for public access. I'm not alleging that all developers listed have wrong doings or are directly involved with DBKL in the land deals. Controversial doesn't necessarily mean guilty. That will be up to the authorities to investigate. P.s. Developers pls dun sue me tqvm... |
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 05:08 PM) CAUTION: Information Overload Contained Below, View At Your Own Risk! Top is Aset Kayamas follow by SkyWorld then probably Jakel further behind. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Unfortunately i'm just one of the many buyers whom is caught in this tangle of mess and hence decided to research in depth regarding this matter, in the meantime helping other buyers to clear the air if they had any queries whether their purchase is part of the list. It's basically just a compilation of all the information scattered and readily available over the internet for public access. I'm not alleging that all developers listed have wrong doings or are directly involved with DBKL in the land deals. Controversial doesn't necessarily mean guilty. That will be up to the authorities to investigate. P.s. Developers pls dun sue me tqvm... Aset Kayamas and SkyWorld understandable, coz they give back to the rakyat by building affordable homes. |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 20 2018, 05:14 PM) Top is Aset Kayamas follow by SkyWorld then probably Jakel further behind. If not paying the big nose, affordable home could be much cheaper.Aset Kayamas and SkyWorld understandable, coz they give back to the rakyat by building affordable homes. |
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May 20 2018, 06:16 PM
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I like no. 62 & 63.. hahaha
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May 22 2018, 07:56 AM
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wonder whats gonna happen to projects by Malton. seeing the shareholder made it to the news lately.
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May 22 2018, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 20 2018, 05:08 PM) Unfortunately i'm just one of the many buyers whom is caught in this tangle of mess and hence decided to research in depth regarding this matter, in the meantime helping other buyers to clear the air if they had any queries whether their purchase is part of the list. The other question is whether Lim Lip Eng (or previously, Tan KW, the Cheras MP as mentioned by Jagalat) raised this case as a genuine concern or for political mileage? The public at large will only be outraged if a green space or public space (football fields, playground, parks, etc.) have been converted to be turned into a commercial/residential project or the aforementioned is built without any improvements to the surroundings to mitigate the density of the project will add to an area such as road widening, walkways, parks, etc.It's basically just a compilation of all the information scattered and readily available over the internet for public access. I'm not alleging that all developers listed have wrong doings or are directly involved with DBKL in the land deals. Controversial doesn't necessarily mean guilty. That will be up to the authorities to investigate. P.s. Developers pls dun sue me tqvm... What will they gain by lumping those projects with no issues whatsoever with those which face objections from the surrounding residents? From what I see here, it seems like all it did is to make current and potential buyers panic and made them think twice about buying property either for investment or for own stay. Not to say I'm pro-developer or cases of corruption should be ignored or whatever. I'm just an average Joe looking for a place to stay and seeing this list when it first came out did raise some concerns, especially when some of the projects I'm looking at falls into this list. I also wonder if this list is just made so that out of the majority of the projects, maybe some will warrant special attention from MACC if they found any wrongdoing and those which are transacted normally will just be thrown out? Sounds a lot like throw everything and hope that some of them will stick, as what they say for those who file frivolous lawsuits. This post has been edited by DesRed: May 22 2018, 12:22 PM |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 22 2018, 12:20 PM) The other question is whether Lim Lip Eng (or previously, Tan KW, the Cheras MP as mentioned by Jagalat) raised this case as a genuine concern or for political mileage? The public at large will only be outraged if a green space or public space (football fields, playground, parks, etc.) have been converted to be turned into a commercial/residential project or the aforementioned is built without any improvements to the surroundings to mitigate the density of the project will add to an area such as road widening, walkways, parks, etc. You got your points, but MACC is not stupid either, if they probe without any reason, sure developer will fire back.What will they gain by lumping those projects with no issues whatsoever with those which face objections from the surrounding residents? From what I see here, it seems like all it did is to make current and potential buyers panic and made them think twice about buying property either for investment or for own stay. Not to say I'm pro-developer or cases of corruption should be ignored or whatever. I'm just an average Joe looking for a place to stay and seeing this list when it first came out did raise some concerns, especially when some of the projects I'm looking at falls into this list. I also wonder if this list is just made so that out of the majority of the projects, maybe some will warrant special attention from MACC if they found any wrongdoing and those which are transacted normally will just be thrown out? Sounds a lot like throw everything and hope that some of them will stick, as what they say for those who file frivolous lawsuits. :hmm: IMO, there is sure unknown reasons which only MACC and ex minister knew. Maybe MACC will announce the result after a certain period of checking. Only time will tell. |
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May 23 2018, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 22 2018, 12:30 PM) You got your points, but MACC is not stupid either, if they probe without any reason, sure developer will fire back. Agree with this. With so much uncertainty, only best to wait for further developments coz at this stage, it is akin to beating around the bush.IMO, there is sure unknown reasons which only MACC and ex minister knew. Maybe MACC will announce the result after a certain period of checking. Only time will tell. |
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QUOTE(selinix @ May 19 2018, 02:09 PM) They only stop projects that have yet to be given apporval. If you are already paying interest in your loan means the development already approve and under construction. Wont be out to halt. You are right but you forgot one more thing. How about those developer didnt get proper approval before start selling but already accepting deposits money.Some developer ask u to pay the deposit to their proxy agents or proxy lawyers and then ask u sign SPA but they didnt get it stamp for very long periods till now. Takkan ada wang boleh collect after stamp SPA, they dont want meh. Sure got fishy stuff. Then i checked and found two reason why developers dont want to stamp the SPA for these 64 land probed by MACC. 1) developer havent obtained Sifus (PTG) or APDL permit (KPKT) thus have no right to accept money from buyers & ask them sign SPA 2) developer try to delay the completion period by delaying sign SPA so that in the future dont need to compensate LAD to buyers if developers delays in work. For examples, 50 storeys condo need 4 to 5yrs period to build but SPA typical allow 3yrs only. So developers delay the stamping lo. |
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May 24 2018, 07:55 PM
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Here is compiled list on 64 land probe which widely circulating now.
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May 24 2018, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 24 2018, 07:55 PM) Here is compiled list on 64 land probe which widely circulating now. Already updated to revision 1.1 at my post above bro... Pls dun go around misleading people...[attachmentid=9822198] |
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May 24 2018, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 24 2018, 08:19 PM) Already updated to revision 1.1 at my post above bro... Pls dun go around misleading people... Ok, i delete. Now realise it was compiled from you. Good job bro |
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May 25 2018, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 24 2018, 06:25 PM) You are right but you forgot one more thing. How about those developer didnt get proper approval before start selling but already accepting deposits money. Legally developer cant collect deposit and presign spa b4 obtaining apdl. If got caught.....susah.Some developer ask u to pay the deposit to their proxy agents or proxy lawyers and then ask u sign SPA but they didnt get it stamp for very long periods till now. Takkan ada wang boleh collect after stamp SPA, they dont want meh. Sure got fishy stuff. Then i checked and found two reason why developers dont want to stamp the SPA for these 64 land probed by MACC. 1) developer havent obtained Sifus (PTG) or APDL permit (KPKT) thus have no right to accept money from buyers & ask them sign SPA 2) developer try to delay the completion period by delaying sign SPA so that in the future dont need to compensate LAD to buyers if developers delays in work. For examples, 50 storeys condo need 4 to 5yrs period to build but SPA typical allow 3yrs only. So developers delay the stamping lo. Unless u talk about collecting booking fee. If they do collect 10% deposit, you can enforce the spa date from the date of payment irrespective when u sign the spa. Stamping is another purpose alltogether. It has nothing to do with the validity of contract btw you and developer. |
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Looks like Hannah Yeoh's report combined with Lim Lip Eng's project <censored> list dy have the desired effect on Malton. Now they stopped the land clearing at Taman Rimba Kiara (link).
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 25 2018, 08:10 AM) Looks like Hannah Yeoh's report combined with Lim Lip Eng's project <censored> list dy have the desired effect on Malton. Now they stopped the land clearing at Taman Rimba Kiara (link). Most importantly is put DL and CT behind some steel bars. Bring T.A. as their cell mate.TTDI folks can rejoice to the max. |
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 25 2018, 08:36 AM) Most importantly is put DL and CT behind some steel bars. Bring T.A. as their cell mate. Well, to be fair, a lot of ppl are expecting AK's boss, King Kong, to get screwed pretty badly thanks to the close link to TA and this list, but wonder why the former two flew under the radar among most of the readership here. On thing to note, their subsidiary, Pavilion, did build up Bukit Bintang to what it is today and is one of the main developers uplifting Bukit Jalil. This post has been edited by DesRed: May 25 2018, 09:15 AM |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 25 2018, 09:02 AM) Well, to be fair, a lot of ppl are expecting AK's boss, King Kong, to get screwed pretty badly thanks to the close link to TA and this list, but wonder why the former two flew under the radar among most of the readership here. Vely true boss. On thing to note, their subsidiary, Pavilion, did build up Bukit Bintang to what it is today and is one of the main developers uplifting Bukit Jalil. But if v omit the grey area u ll find the answer to the WHY 👌👠|
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 25 2018, 12:03 AM) Legally developer cant collect deposit and presign spa b4 obtaining apdl. If got caught.....susah. legally developer cannot accept any form of money & can't even advertise their project name if no APDL.Unless u talk about collecting booking fee. If they do collect 10% deposit, you can enforce the spa date from the date of payment irrespective when u sign the spa. Stamping is another purpose alltogether. It has nothing to do with the validity of contract btw you and developer. |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 25 2018, 08:10 AM) Looks like Hannah Yeoh's report combined with Lim Lip Eng's project <censored> list dy have the desired effect on Malton. Now they stopped the land clearing at Taman Rimba Kiara (link). Good news..TTDI folks can rejoice to the max. The folk there's wanted to keep the green... Too much over development.... The people power... Happy to see the historical changes happen in the country... Now, those developer using "connection" & under table $$$, should face the law... |
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 25 2018, 11:48 AM) legally developer cannot accept any form of money & can't even advertise their project name if no APDL. booking fee is not illegal lah |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 25 2018, 12:04 PM) booking fee is not illegal lah yes it is illegal. I assure you. even proforma sale is illegal if you don't have apdl. I just checked with KPKT last week. |
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 25 2018, 12:19 PM) yes it is illegal. I assure you. even proforma sale is illegal if you don't have apdl. I just checked with KPKT last week. I recall for Parc3, before they got the APDL, they will accept the cheque for the booking fee upon selecting the unit, but will not bank it in until they receive the former. Most likely they put the cheques in one file while waiting for the APDL to be approved.Only when they receive the APDL are they then authorised to bank-in the cheques. Sounds like a grey area if you ask me. This post has been edited by DesRed: May 25 2018, 12:25 PM |
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 25 2018, 11:48 AM) legally developer cannot accept any form of money & can't even advertise their project name if no APDL. That's why they never accept your money in a form of cash. The "booking" is always done with using cheque / bank draft which they would not cash in until APDL is approved and all these booking cheques are always through a 3rd party and not direct to developer. Typical practice by most developers la playing around the law and legally they memang never accepted any booking fees from you.So going back to what you point out earlier that those who accept the money in a form of cash and without approval, you sure? i doubt a developer is so dumb to do this and put themselves with legal implications This post has been edited by selinix: May 25 2018, 12:46 PM |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 25 2018, 12:24 PM) I recall for Parc3, before they got the APDL, they will accept the cheque for the booking fee upon selecting the unit, but will not bank it in until they receive the former. Most likely they put the cheques in one file while waiting for the APDL to be approved. The initial plan was called the Weave and then they scrap it and go back to drawing board and came out with Parc3. All the cheque was return back to those who booked when they scrap the weave since the project haven receive APDL.Only when they receive the APDL are they then authorised to bank-in the cheques. Sounds like a grey area if you ask me. |
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 25 2018, 12:19 PM) yes it is illegal. I assure you. even proforma sale is illegal if you don't have apdl. I just checked with KPKT last week. if buyer is paying in trust with lawyer not directly into developers acc also illegal meh?OR developer only accept cheque but not bank in also illegal meh?????? lot of things in this world is not legal but it doesnt render them as illegal. one of them is airbnb. another one is discount and rebate given by developer. It this legal or illegal?????? |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 25 2018, 12:24 PM) I recall for Parc3, before they got the APDL, they will accept the cheque for the booking fee upon selecting the unit, but will not bank it in until they receive the former. Most likely they put the cheques in one file while waiting for the APDL to be approved. That one of course can as the money literally still in buyer's hand, haven't give to developer. Only when they receive the APDL are they then authorised to bank-in the cheques. Sounds like a grey area if you ask me. so booking fee if pay in cash or credit card is illegal. Meanwhile if pay in cheque & developer hold it not to bank in until APDL then you can say is so called "legal". BUT, there is the catch, without APDL, the cheque cannot write the developer's registered company name. Cheque must write to the so called developer"s proxy. This post has been edited by leslauliu: May 25 2018, 04:10 PM |
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QUOTE(selinix @ May 25 2018, 12:43 PM) That's why they never accept your money in a form of cash. The "booking" is always done with using cheque / bank draft which they would not cash in until APDL is approved and all these booking cheques are always through a 3rd party and not direct to developer. Typical practice by most developers la playing around the law and legally they memang never accepted any booking fees from you. If you read the post I was replying to Beancounter then you would understand. So going back to what you point out earlier that those who accept the money in a form of cash and without approval, you sure? i doubt a developer is so dumb to do this and put themselves with legal implications |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 25 2018, 01:32 PM) if buyer is paying in trust with lawyer not directly into developers acc also illegal meh? Please don't compare KPKT law with Airbnb law. totally different ma. Like I explained earlier in other post, OR developer only accept cheque but not bank in also illegal meh?????? lot of things in this world is not legal but it doesnt render them as illegal. one of them is airbnb. another one is discount and rebate given by developer. It this legal or illegal?????? there is the catch, without APDL, the cheque cannot write the developer's registered company name. Cheque must write to the so called developer"s proxy. And There is another catch, did you read the new amendment Strata Title Act approved last year JULY? even if buyer give money in Cheque/cash to developer's proxy such as lawyer or agent, THAT particular lawyer/agent cannot mentioned that this money is treated as booking fees/proforma sale for the project (without APDL) you are buying. lawyer will definitely say this money collected is between you (buyer) and lawyer. you put your money into lawyer's account at your freewill. So if lawyer lari with your money, you cannot claim back from developer. Beancounter, you can try ask the lawyer to check with this, till now many lawyers still do the 'OLD' way and didn't aware of this new amendment Strata Title act. I have a lawyer friend and he didn't even know until he double checked with PTG and KPKT. sebab banyak orang tak tau this law, so banyak lawyer still safe la practise the wrong 'OLD' way, now new government, most of our MPs all got degree in law, sooner or later, these so called scams would be eventually find out and will be taken action against. About discount and rebate given by developer is whole different matter, if you look at APDL permit normally shown at below advertisement of the project whenever you read in newspaper or magazine or etc, the developer must mentioned the minimum and maximum price to be sold for a unit. So if developer give rebate or discount, as long as SPA price doesnt go beyond the maximum and below minimum, then the developer is ok. BUT there is another catch, BANK. Bank DO NOT like developer give rebate or discount. Imagine you buy a 500k unit and bank approved 90 percent loan. SPA signed 500k but developer give you back 10 percent discount/rebates in the form of 'Credit Note'. Thus, you actually don't have to pay anything lo. Bank will cancel the LO legally if find out about this. If you ask why still bank give LO to purchaser even when many developers offer 10 to 20 percents in the current market especially projects in OLD klang road, many banker officer tutup satu mata, developer sudah "settle" with the bank officer. Chairmain and board of top management of many tak tau ma, they look mostly on big amount such as corporate loans. kena tangkap banker officer only kena pecat only ma, dont need to go to jail or to macc unless they are government servants lol. Banker officer give LO pun dapat so called commission punya. Got this kind of syndicate for past many many years and many banks already find out and fire them but didn't posted on news. not good for corporate image and their stock price. That's y Bank Negara Zeti last time found out the problem and give lots of restriction to bank to impose stricter conditions on these matters to purchasers. Now you ask around see anyone can obtain LO so easily or not. but again, "when there is the will, there is the way" lol. you see now many developer in OLD klang road want to give discount/rebates also not so obvious, you datang show room baru cakap verbally. Developers also clever not to post discount/rebates on any advertisement/borchures. This post has been edited by leslauliu: May 25 2018, 04:51 PM |
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May 25 2018, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 25 2018, 04:24 PM) Please don't compare KPKT law with Airbnb law. totally different ma. Like I explained earlier in other post, Thanls for the explanation.there is the catch, without APDL, the cheque cannot write the developer's registered company name. Cheque must write to the so called developer"s proxy. And There is another catch, did you read the new amendment Strata Title Act approved last year JULY? even if buyer give money in Cheque/cash to developer's proxy such as lawyer or agent, THAT particular lawyer/agent cannot mentioned that this money is treated as booking fees/proforma sale for the project (without APDL) you are buying. lawyer will definitely say this money collected is between you (buyer) and lawyer. you put your money into lawyer's account at your freewill. So if lawyer lari with your money, you cannot claim back from developer. Beancounter, you can try ask the lawyer to check with this, till now many lawyers still do the 'OLD' way and didn't aware of this new amendment Strata Title act. I have a lawyer friend and he didn't even know until he double checked with PTG and KPKT. sebab banyak orang tak tau this law, so banyak lawyer still safe la practise the wrong 'OLD' way, now new government, most of our MPs all got degree in law, sooner or later, these so called scams would be eventually find out and will be taken action against. About discount and rebate given by developer is whole different matter, if you look at APDL permit normally shown at below advertisement of the project whenever you read in newspaper or magazine or etc, the developer must mentioned the minimum and maximum price to be sold for a unit. So if developer give rebate or discount, as long as SPA price doesnt go beyond the maximum and below minimum, then the developer is ok. BUT there is another catch, BANK. Bank DO NOT like developer give rebate or discount. Imagine you buy a 500k unit and bank approved 90 percent loan. SPA signed 500k but developer give you back 10 percent discount/rebates in the form of 'Credit Note'. Thus, you actually don't have to pay anything lo. Bank will cancel the LO legally if find out about this. If you ask why still bank give LO to purchaser even when many developers offer 10 to 20 percents in the current market especially projects in OLD klang road, many banker officer tutup satu mata, developer sudah "settle" with the bank officer. Chairmain and board of top management of many tak tau ma, they look mostly on big amount such as corporate loans. kena tangkap banker officer only kena pecat only ma, dont need to go to jail or to macc unless they are government servants lol. Banker officer give LO pun dapat so called commission punya. Got this kind of syndicate for past many many years and many banks already find out and fire them but didn't posted on news. not good for corporate image and their stock price. That's y Bank Negara Zeti last time found out the problem and give lots of restriction to bank to impose stricter conditions on these matters to purchasers. Now you ask around see anyone can obtain LO so easily or not. but again, "when there is the will, there is the way" lol. you see now many developer in OLD klang road want to give discount/rebates also not so obvious, you datang show room baru cakap verbally. Developers also clever not to post discount/rebates on any advertisement/borchures. Thats why i said there is fine line btw not legal and illegal. Since we are on this matter can i pick yr brain on 1. How to determine the date of purchase of yr property especially when come to claiming LAD? 2. If a developer is given lest say 15% discount (9% off deposit), 5% off (next 10% billing) and 1% off next clain, what date is the date of purchase? Thank you. |
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May 25 2018, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 25 2018, 05:47 PM) Thanls for the explanation. What do you think? Let us hear yours first. Lol. Best knowledge is to learn from everyone. Need to know your opinion too.Thats why i said there is fine line btw not legal and illegal. Since we are on this matter can i pick yr brain on 1. How to determine the date of purchase of yr property especially when come to claiming LAD? 2. If a developer is given lest say 15% discount (9% off deposit), 5% off (next 10% billing) and 1% off next clain, what date is the date of purchase? Thank you. |
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May 25 2018, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ May 25 2018, 10:48 PM) What do you think? Let us hear yours first. Lol. Best knowledge is to learn from everyone. Need to know your opinion too. 1. Date of 10% deposit paid. Spa should be dated on the same day.2. The law says buyer pays 10%. If buyer didnt pay the 10% in full, do they have the right to insert the date of spa? |
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May 26 2018, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 25 2018, 11:43 PM) 1. Date of 10% deposit paid. Spa should be dated on the same day. From what i learnt, you are right until a court case over rule this .2. The law says buyer pays 10%. If buyer didnt pay the 10% in full, do they have the right to insert the date of spa? Ask your lawyer friends , there is a law suit case between developer from penang and buyers. Developer insists the Spa date should start right after buyer pay 10percent just like you said. Buyers insist the SPA date should start when they have gave deposit/booking fee/proforma. Guess what was the court decision? Court sided with the buyers . Meaning if you pay just RM1 as booking fees on that date, the legal period start counting until your project CCC. A lawyer friend of mine have confirmed this and so does from KPKT. Please correct me if i am wrong |
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May 26 2018, 03:27 PM
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According to him, some devs rushed to pay after GE14...
http://www.chinapress.com.my/20180526/隆å...”šè‡³æœªä»˜è²»/ |
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May 26 2018, 03:29 PM
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Please take actions on those car double parked at the busy roads!!
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May 26 2018, 03:33 PM
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Itu Bicycle Track Ada audit Ka?
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May 26 2018, 03:34 PM
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obviously the 16 pcs land is refer to AK
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May 26 2018, 05:39 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/Fahmi.Fadzil.1/pos...197152463643423
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May 26 2018, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jagalat @ May 26 2018, 03:27 PM) According to him, some devs rushed to pay after GE14... Nice article... English equivalent below:http://www.chinapress.com.my/20180526/隆ï...¿½è‡³æœªä»˜è²»/ http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ity-land-deals/ |
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May 26 2018, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 26 2018, 08:16 PM) Nice article... English equivalent below: Haha... This English article is brave enough to spell the developer's names.... http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ity-land-deals/ Almost half of the total items "belong" to three developers. |
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May 27 2018, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 25 2018, 08:10 AM) Looks like Hannah Yeoh's report combined with Lim Lip Eng's project <censored> list dy have the desired effect on Malton. Now they stopped the land clearing at Taman Rimba Kiara (link). Sounds like I was wrong after all. Memang Perkasa (a.k.a. Malton) is still going ahead with the project, regardless if the dilapidation survey is rejected by the Trellises Apt JMB or not:TTDI folks can rejoice to the max. http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/deve...man-rimba-kiara Looks like they've got deep pockets despite having a few of their properties listed in Lim's project <censored> list. Not to mention that the renovation of their Rio Pantai sales gallery near my condo is still underway as usual. This post has been edited by DesRed: May 27 2018, 10:27 AM |
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May 27 2018, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 27 2018, 10:27 AM) Sounds like I was wrong after all. Memang Perkasa (a.k.a. Malton) is still going ahead with the project, regardless if the dilapidation survey is rejected by the Trellises Apt JMB or not: That's quite ballsy of them. Means other project that is listed under malton from mp lim report would probably be carried out as well?http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/deve...man-rimba-kiara Looks like they've got deep pockets despite having a few of their properties listed in Lim's project <censored> list. Not to mention that the renovation of their Rio Pantai sales gallery near my condo is still underway as usual. |
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May 27 2018, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ May 27 2018, 06:10 PM) That's quite ballsy of them. Means other project that is listed under malton from mp lim report would probably be carried out as well? Well, I still see no activity at Duta Park up till this very day. As for the Rio Pantai sales gallery, the renovation works is still going on as usual, but not sure on the actual project progress as I seldom drive there. |
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May 28 2018, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 27 2018, 11:57 PM) Well, I still see no activity at Duta Park up till this very day. As for the Rio Pantai sales gallery, the renovation works is still going on as usual, but not sure on the actual project progress as I seldom drive there. Just passed by duta park last sat. Still no development but still alot of people visiting the showroom. |
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May 28 2018, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ May 28 2018, 11:37 AM) Just passed by duta park last sat. Still no development but still alot of people visiting the showroom. Hmm... maybe those folks assume that Lim Lip Eng's list will not impact this project? I remember after the launch, I also see lots of ppl visiting it, but from the comments on this project's thread here, it seems like the take-up is pretty slow, just like The Era @ Duta North. |
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May 30 2018, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ May 28 2018, 04:12 PM) Hmm... maybe those folks assume that Lim Lip Eng's list will not impact this project? A few of them pull out I think. Some of us are just stuck with the projectI remember after the launch, I also see lots of ppl visiting it, but from the comments on this project's thread here, it seems like the take-up is pretty slow, just like The Era @ Duta North. |
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May 30 2018, 06:24 PM
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KL MPs hope to retrieve 10 of the 64 dubious DBKL land plots sold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTnGAkvH_ec This post has been edited by seechin: May 30 2018, 09:42 PM |
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May 30 2018, 06:41 PM
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good..
at least 10 land plot from 64 is better than zero but I want more if possible... |
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May 30 2018, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(seechin @ May 30 2018, 07:24 PM) Anyone knows the names of 10 plots of land? Thx The article reported Ceras MP hoped to have the Ceras 2.5miles returned... Anyway 64-10=54 plots of land still out there cheap sale(understand some started construction). A bit disappointed at the land cheap sale (not about the projects and buyers). This post has been edited by Jagalat: May 30 2018, 08:40 PM |
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May 31 2018, 10:16 PM
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SkyWorld speaks out... Will Aset Kayamas follow suit?
https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1354836/sky...aid-accordingly |
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 31 2018, 10:16 PM) SkyWorld speaks out... Will Aset Kayamas follow suit? All of the lands were sold without open tender and most of them were transacted at below the market price at that time and without having gone through a valuation report,†he (Lim) had said in earlier reports.https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1354836/sky...aid-accordingly all lands that it had purchased were through proper valuation done by the government’s valuation department. (Skyworld) Who lie and where is the valuation report....haha |
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Jun 1 2018, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(seechin @ May 30 2018, 06:24 PM) KL MPs hope to retrieve 10 of the 64 dubious DBKL land plots sold 10 is just to little. Can't claim back the lands then find a way to squeeze those BN licker developers until dry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTnGAkvH_ec  |
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Jun 1 2018, 11:18 AM
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The Federal Territories Director of Lands and Mines Office Kuala Lumpur, Sharez Izuan Md Zaidi, says he has been instructed to freeze all transactions involving the transfer of land owned by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) since May 10.
For those developers who queue up to pay outstanding transaction and Premium for the lands, really GG this time. |
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Jun 1 2018, 11:30 AM
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Meaning those project jalan say 20% stage... Whats are the effects?
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Jun 1 2018, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Neoyo @ Jun 1 2018, 11:30 AM) Meaning those project jalan say 20% stage... Whats are the effects? you got buy such projects (project in 64 lands) ? if not, nothing worry about.This post has been edited by cutealex: Jun 1 2018, 11:42 AM |
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jun 1 2018, 11:18 AM) The Federal Territories Director of Lands and Mines Office Kuala Lumpur, Sharez Izuan Md Zaidi, says he has been instructed to freeze all transactions involving the transfer of land owned by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) since May 10. If not donations paid to bn politicians, affordable home could be even cheaper.For those developers who queue up to pay outstanding transaction and Premium for the lands, really GG this time. |
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Jun 1 2018, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Jun 1 2018, 12:42 PM) you got buy such projects (project in 64 lands) ? if not, nothing worry about. Walau... I wan learn le |
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QUOTE(Neoyo @ Jun 1 2018, 12:16 PM) Walau... I wan learn le CANNOT LEARN ..PAY FIRST =P |
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Jun 1 2018, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Neoyo @ Jun 1 2018, 11:30 AM) Meaning those project jalan say 20% stage... Whats are the effects? if construction work started but these companies have not concluded the land sale deals.....(meaning no paid yet)banyak kopi sessions kambing up loh…. nothing the mighty Agong notes cant solve de...…. Its all about money, money, money...…...  |
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Jun 1 2018, 04:42 AM) you got buy such projects (project in 64 lands) ? if not, nothing worry about. QUOTE(Neoyo @ Jun 1 2018, 04:30 AM) Meaning those project jalan say 20% stage... Whats are the effects? TR Residence is one of projects in this 64 lands.Maybe Neoyo wants to know more. Well.. I’m just guessing since his response to me is quite prompt in TRR thread. |
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Jun 1 2018, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ May 31 2018, 10:16 PM) SkyWorld speaks out... Will Aset Kayamas follow suit? So Skyworld Not affected!https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1354836/sky...aid-accordingly SkyWorld claimed that affordable housing is part of its corporate social responsibility (CSR) initiatives. |
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Jun 1 2018, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jun 1 2018, 11:18 AM) The Federal Territories Director of Lands and Mines Office Kuala Lumpur, Sharez Izuan Md Zaidi, says he has been instructed to freeze all transactions involving the transfer of land owned by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) since May 10. Good decision...For those developers who queue up to pay outstanding transaction and Premium for the lands, really GG this time. Better do that to clean up everything... Too much hanky panky involved.... DBKL also needed to be audited... They also misuses their powers in awarding contracts... |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 1 2018, 02:23 PM) Good decision... Hi, not only audited, just looking at this :-Better do that to clean up everything... Too much hanky panky involved.... DBKL also needed to be audited... They also misuses their powers in awarding contracts... "The Great RM4 million Bike Lane Debacle: Mayor says cycling path to be ‘re-audited’ amidst widespread complaint"  Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jun 1 2018, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(pinkdm @ Jun 1 2018, 02:50 PM) Hi, not only audited, just looking at this :- ahh yes.. the blue lane..."The Great RM4 million Bike Lane Debacle: Mayor says cycling path to be ‘re-audited’ amidst widespread complaint" seriously it's totally overpriced... bloody crony hike up the cost kaw kaw... then, redo back again  another extra cost   one of the example of DBKL misusing / abuse power & contract awarding... |
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Jun 1 2018, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 1 2018, 04:26 PM) ahh yes.. the blue lane... Go Money Got DBKL, maseriously it's totally overpriced... bloody crony hike up the cost kaw kaw... then, redo back again another extra cost one of the example of DBKL misusing / abuse power & contract awarding... |
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Jun 1 2018, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jun 1 2018, 04:39 PM) Go Money Got DBKL, ma DBKL is one of the richest local council in Malaysia.. everything can make $$$ |
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Jun 1 2018, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(seechin @ May 30 2018, 06:24 PM) KL MPs hope to retrieve 10 of the 64 dubious DBKL land plots sold DBKL land transfers frozenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTnGAkvH_ec This post has been edited by seechin: Jun 1 2018, 05:39 PM |
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Jun 1 2018, 12:01 AM) All of the lands were sold without open tender and most of them were transacted at below the market price at that time and without having gone through a valuation report,†he (Lim) had said in earlier reports. I side with the MP's. The report of 64 lands was mentioned in previous parliament session. Cannot be fake and comes with land sizes and price.all lands that it had purchased were through proper valuation done by the government’s valuation department. (Skyworld) Who lie and where is the valuation report....haha |
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Jun 4 2018, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 1 2018, 04:26 PM) ahh yes.. the blue lane... Including the award to O'Bike for the bicycle service? seriously it's totally overpriced... bloody crony hike up the cost kaw kaw... then, redo back again another extra cost one of the example of DBKL misusing / abuse power & contract awarding... I do recall that the bicycle lanes and O'Bike implementation were spearheaded in conjunction with the WUF9 forum being held for the first time here, but according to my wife who works around there, most of the people who used the bikes are either foreign workers or a handful of tourists. Locals rarely used them. Not to mention that as a result of the lane crossing towards the Maybank Tower, DBKL made the road exit to Jln Tun Perak narrower, worsening the jam there. So far I haven't heard about anyone from Pakatan raising a stink about the bicycle lanes, let alone, awarding the bicycle service to O'Bike tho.  |
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Jun 4 2018, 02:54 PM
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Almost 10 projects, worth about RM1bil, were stopped
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...-projects-axed/ |
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Jun 4 2018, 04:05 PM
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Jun 4 2018, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jun 4 2018, 02:54 PM) Almost 10 projects, worth about RM1bil, were stopped no list of the projects affected meh? https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...-projects-axed/ |
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Jun 4 2018, 05:23 PM
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http://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...1-bilion-177287
"Antara projek itu termasuk penurapan jalan dan mengurangkan bilangan tempat letak kereta. Selain itu, projek kelab sukan juga dibatalkan kerana pengambilan tanah belum diselesaikan. "Seperti projek River of Life dan Greater KL, ia merupakan projek kerajaan. DBKL cuma pemantau atau pengawas. Tujuan utama kita batalkan projek ini adalah bagi mengurangkan perbelanjaan selain kita rasakan projek bagi tahun ini sudah mencukupi," katanya. |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2018, 04:05 PM) let the picture speaks..... |
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Jun 4 2018, 05:47 PM
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River of Life gone with the wind?
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Jun 4 2018, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 4 2018, 05:40 PM) Bila Aset Kayamas mau speak? tomorrow or next week...this ads sure would create some after effects on AK or others developers... |
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 4 2018, 05:47 PM) River of Life gone with the wind? QUOTE On projects like the River of Life, Mohd Amin said those were ongoing Federal-level projects and would not be disturbed. Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...4cqhgqZiKzCg.99 NOPE |
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Jun 4 2018, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2018, 04:05 PM) let the picture speaks..... |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2018, 06:25 PM) Pretty sure will have budget cuts. |
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QUOTE(IVL @ Jun 4 2018, 06:56 PM) LOL go join SkyAwani 1 fb group and see how GOOD skyworld is.. see it to believe it hehehehlater I go see it... |
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 4 2018, 06:59 PM) Pretty sure will have budget cuts. re-nego back the cost..cut those songlap cost |
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Jun 4 2018, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 4 2018, 02:06 PM) Including the award to O'Bike for the bicycle service? My family n me did use obike during monthly bycycle day.I do recall that the bicycle lanes and O'Bike implementation were spearheaded in conjunction with the WUF9 forum being held for the first time here, but according to my wife who works around there, most of the people who used the bikes are either foreign workers or a handful of tourists. Locals rarely used them. Not to mention that as a result of the lane crossing towards the Maybank Tower, DBKL made the road exit to Jln Tun Perak narrower, worsening the jam there. So far I haven't heard about anyone from Pakatan raising a stink about the bicycle lanes, let alone, awarding the bicycle service to O'Bike tho. Lots of non foreigner too. |
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Jun 4 2018, 09:11 PM
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 http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...tive-landscape/ This post has been edited by seechin: Jun 4 2018, 09:29 PM |
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Jun 4 2018, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2018, 07:25 PM) EKV should take a deep breath to feel relieving.... |
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Jun 4 2018, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 4 2018, 05:40 PM) Bila Aset Kayamas mau speak? It's beta to b a silent King Kong if hav no truth to review 😊 |
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Jun 4 2018, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(seechin @ Jun 4 2018, 09:11 PM) Still got land to build another mega high tower in KLCC area?  |
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Jun 4 2018, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 4 2018, 09:57 PM) Still got land to build another mega high tower in KLCC area? http://propsquare.my/2017/05/15/klcc-lot-l...ng-in-malaysia/Proposed Development: Phase 1: 6-storey retail podium Future Phase: TBA https://www.flickr.com/photos/28075095@N03/...57631965598597/ This post has been edited by seechin: Jun 4 2018, 10:03 PM |
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Jun 4 2018, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(seechin @ Jun 4 2018, 09:11 PM) what the hell...KL already over supply on office space.. now build more super high tower why didn't put 188 level |
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Jun 4 2018, 10:55 PM
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Side questions, is KLCC building office lots fully tenanted today?
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Jun 5 2018, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 4 2018, 05:40 PM) Bila Aset Kayamas mau speak? Don't forget Malton. They remain silent and yet they still want to raze down the northern part of the Bukit Kiara Park and they're still resuming the renovation of their Rio Pantai Sales gallery near my condo. Plus, someone at the Duta Park thread posted that they're dy sending in a shovel and a lorry, which may mean that they will start the construction soon.At least Skyworld come clean with it, and so far, I don't see Lim Lip Eng raising a squeak about them paying a visit to him for some clarification. This post has been edited by DesRed: Jun 5 2018, 12:11 AM |
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Jun 5 2018, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(seechin @ Jun 4 2018, 10:03 PM) http://propsquare.my/2017/05/15/klcc-lot-l...ng-in-malaysia/ Is the old news? Or currently being revived?Proposed Development: Phase 1: 6-storey retail podium Future Phase: TBA https://www.flickr.com/photos/28075095@N03/...57631965598597/ |
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Jun 5 2018, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE http://www.astroawani.com/berita-sukan/ase...ia-astro-177318 "Aset Kayamas akan mengadakan acara istimewa sempena perlawanan akhir Piala Dunia pada 15 Julai di Desa Sentral, salah satu projek yang dibangunkan mereka." http://news.seehua.com/?p=368382 "Aset Kayamas执行董事蔡文怀则宣布，7月15日世界æ¯å†³èµ›å½“天，在本身的å‘展项目Desa Sentral举办一个全日足çƒèŠ‚，並与çƒè¿·é€šè¿‡å¤§è¤å¹•ï¼Œè§‚看世界æ¯å†³èµ›ã€‚çƒè¿·ä¹Ÿå¯åœ¨çŽ°åœºï¼Œä¸€ç¹å‰æ‹œä»æ…•å°¼é»‘和曼è”åå®¿å“ˆæ ¼é‡Œå¤«æ–¯çš„é£Žé‡‡ã€‚" Thanks to brother seechin for above info. Instead of press release announcement (like Skyworld), Aset KAYAmas comeback by sponsoring Astro FIFA! This is just freaking epic! XD Btw, some "sources" claimed their cash flow got problem? Contractor payout delay? Project on hold? AK boss gonna run away? This post has been edited by LiNKInPaRk108: Jun 5 2018, 07:19 AM |
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Jun 5 2018, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Jun 4 2018, 10:55 PM) Side questions, is KLCC building office lots fully tenanted today? Noeven Microsoft Malaysia also move out to Menara Shell recently |
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Jun 5 2018, 06:43 PM
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Jun 6 2018, 11:57 PM
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Latest news on Aset Kayamas
https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1365600/ase...s-64-land-deals This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jun 7 2018, 02:13 AM |
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Jun 7 2018, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ Jun 6 2018, 11:57 PM) Seems like its regurgitating the news you posted two weeks ago (link)Outside of Skyworld, AK, Jakel and Malton remained silent on Lim Lip Eng's exposé. But Malton appears to be unfazed by it and still go ahead with the land clearing at the northern edge of Tmn Rimba Kiara and seem to commence some construction works at Duta Park plus the renovation at the Nova Pantai/Rio Pantai sales gallery near my condo. Funny that he remained quiet as a mouse when Skyworld responded. This post has been edited by DesRed: Jun 7 2018, 06:50 AM |
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Jun 7 2018, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 7 2018, 06:48 AM) Seems like its regurgitating the news you posted two weeks ago (link) Milton busy acquiring back their shares?Outside of Skyworld, AK, Jakel and Malton remained silent on Lim Lip Eng's exposé. But Malton appears to be unfazed by it and still go ahead with the land clearing at the northern edge of Tmn Rimba Kiara and seem to commence some construction works at Duta Park plus the renovation at the Nova Pantai/Rio Pantai sales gallery near my condo. Funny that he remained quiet as a mouse when Skyworld responded. |
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Jun 8 2018, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 7 2018, 06:48 AM) Seems like its regurgitating the news you posted two weeks ago (link) Please look at the news date and the date I posted and the link you mentioned.Outside of Skyworld, AK, Jakel and Malton remained silent on Lim Lip Eng's exposé. But Malton appears to be unfazed by it and still go ahead with the land clearing at the northern edge of Tmn Rimba Kiara and seem to commence some construction works at Duta Park plus the renovation at the Nova Pantai/Rio Pantai sales gallery near my condo. Funny that he remained quiet as a mouse when Skyworld responded. Is different. This link was an update from YB Lim Lip Eng. Please read and listen to both link I sent and you can see the differences. |
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Jun 8 2018, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ Jun 8 2018, 10:02 AM) Please look at the news date and the date I posted and the link you mentioned. I read both of them dy previously. No need to remind me. Is different. This link was an update from YB Lim Lip Eng. Please read and listen to both link I sent and you can see the differences. FMT's article dy quoted DBKL as revealing 16 out of the 64 plots of land are from AK, and in the Edge Property article, the author mentioned that Lim Lip Eng revealed the same thing. I just thought that its a repeat of the former revelation, with the latter being an update. Just sounds like Lim Lip Eng had an ulterior motive behind this revelation like what some have suspected. Probably to make himself look good in the eyes of the public as some anti-corruption fighter. Maybe he's eyeing for the post of MACC chief in the near future? |
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Jun 8 2018, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 8 2018, 10:32 AM) I read both of them dy previously. No need to remind me. Good you understand, previously in other topics, my this statement was blocked by admin for spamming.FMT's article dy quoted DBKL as revealing 16 out of the 64 plots of land are from AK, and in the Edge Property article, the author mentioned that Lim Lip Eng revealed the same thing. I just thought that its a repeat of the former revelation, with the latter being an update. Just sounds like Lim Lip Eng had an ulterior motive behind this revelation like what some have suspected. Probably to make himself look good in the eyes of the public as some anti-corruption fighter. Maybe he's eyeing for the post of MACC chief in the near future? I replied explaining that the link is different and this link was an update from YB Lim Lip Eng. Then my warning for spamming was removed from admin. |
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Jun 9 2018, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 8 2018, 10:32 AM) I read both of them dy previously. No need to remind me. ppl do good thing...then his intention is suspected.FMT's article dy quoted DBKL as revealing 16 out of the 64 plots of land are from AK, and in the Edge Property article, the author mentioned that Lim Lip Eng revealed the same thing. I just thought that its a repeat of the former revelation, with the latter being an update. Just sounds like Lim Lip Eng had an ulterior motive behind this revelation like what some have suspected. Probably to make himself look good in the eyes of the public as some anti-corruption fighter. Maybe he's eyeing for the post of MACC chief in the near future? lets make one thing clear....politicians are no angels. |
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Jun 9 2018, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 9 2018, 12:10 AM) ppl do good thing...then his intention is suspected. Agreed with you, but let's elaborate. applies not just to politician. Everyone of us are no angels too.lets make one thing clear....politicians are no angels. Secondly, if YB Lim Lip Eng doesn't uncover this scam. is there anyone do? you?me? without them, we won't know that our money paid for tax and to dbkl were being misused. With them now, we can recover a fraction of government land for us to use in the future as a public park or other public uses. if BN still win, our country will bankrupt soon knowing now new government have uncover so many public fund being siphoned out of the country. I would just mind my own business and think how to make profit only. and leave it to new government to run our country. I have no passion in politics lol.But again, Beancounter, what you said is right on " ppl do good thing...then his intention is suspected." No matter how good are you in whichever field, still have people will say u bad, happened even here in this forum. anyway, IMO, I still need UMNO to be the main opposition party. For examples, If only MAXIS existed, they monopolize the whole industry. When celcom came in with their gold plan, straight away 300000 maxis subscriber jumps then finally maxis drop their price. Same goes to UNIFI Telekom, now they not so cocky and drop their price once TIME came in. I am using TIME now and the speed is superb. I used to be using UNIFI. Hope you got what I meant.  This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jun 9 2018, 09:42 PM |
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Jun 10 2018, 04:17 AM
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Agree.
We need check and balance. If YB is crossed the line i hope the opposition put him in check. So far no bn people even make a meow sounds on dbkl land sale. Am sure the ph gov will not jeopardised the home buyers but corruption is corruption. Need to punish the evils. |
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Jun 10 2018, 09:37 AM
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Surely therr is reason to suspect...so many lands go to these two developers...
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Jun 16 2018, 05:51 PM
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Kepong MP wants clarification on land sale to Umno linked company
QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR: Kepong Member of Parliament Lim Lip Eng has urged Chief Secretary to the Government (KSN) Tan Sri Dr Ali Hamsa to clarify a land deal in Taman Wahyu here, which was sold below market value to an Umno-linked company. Speaking to reporters at the Jinjang Flood Retention Pond here today, Lim said the 35.2ha land was sold to Maqamad Sdn Bhd (formerly known as Sun & Son Sdn Bhd) at RM68 per square feet (sq ft) on Nov 20, 2015, when the market value then was at least RM250 sq ft. "We are seeking an answer from Ali Hamsa because the Federal Territory of Kuala Lumpur Land and Mines Office is under his purview. "Besides, we all know that Ali Hamsa is merely a civil servant, so he has to tell us the person who approved the sale," he said, adding that he would also enquire officially with the KSN after Hari Raya. Lim said, in the 5A form dated Nov 20, 2015, and addressed to Maqamad, the Federal Territories Land and Mines Office indicated the land premium being RM237 million. He said while Maqamad has yet to finish paying the premium, it had sold the land to a Sarawak-based developer Perdana Park City Sdn Bhd. It was reported in April this year that Perdana Park was collaborating with China-based Country Garden Holdings Co Ltd. for mixed-use commercial development on the land consisting of a hotel, offices, parking, shopping mall, connectivity and apartments. Lim said that the development would result in traffic congestion and flooding problems to the area, as the retention pond was supposed to be used to mitigate floods. — Bernama Yet another land issue raised by Kepong MP... Location: Beside Mah Sing's Lakeville / RUMAWIP Seri Wahyu |
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Jun 16 2018, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Jun 16 2018, 05:51 PM) Kepong MP wants clarification on land sale to Umno linked company Officially lake city by country garden.Yet another land issue raised by Kepong MP... Location: Beside Mah Sing's Lakeville / RUMAWIP Seri Wahyu |
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Jun 16 2018, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Jun 16 2018, 05:51 PM) Kepong MP wants clarification on land sale to Umno linked company My my my, he really is upping the ante on this one. Taking on Country Garden and PPSB together? Yet another land issue raised by Kepong MP... Location: Beside Mah Sing's Lakeville / RUMAWIP Seri Wahyu Surprised that he haven't gone after YTL, MRCB, Sunway, Tropicana, IJM, IOI, Sime Darby and Malton yet. This post has been edited by DesRed: Jun 16 2018, 10:30 PM |
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Jun 16 2018, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 16 2018, 10:30 PM) My my my, he really is upping the ante on this one. Taking on Country Garden and PPSB together? No lah...he is after foul play by politicians in power using dbkl to enriched themselves.Surprised that he haven't gone after YTL, MRCB, Sunway, Tropicana, IJM, IOI, Sime Darby and Malton yet. We should support this. If develooers are paying market price for land and no hanly panky, no need to worry. Pavillion susah jor. |
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Jun 17 2018, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 16 2018, 11:15 PM) No lah...he is after foul play by politicians in power using dbkl to enriched themselves. I support any drive against corruption as much as the average Joe on the street and any investigation into public spaces (parts or whole) that DBKL, under Ku Nan's watch, single-handedly converted to be sold openly to any Tom, Dick and Harry developer(s) without any prior consultation with those who are living in the affected areas.We should support this. If develooers are paying market price for land and no hanly panky, no need to worry. Pavillion susah jor. What I do not support is jeopardising the buyers of those projects which are, unfortunately, happens to be listed in the 64 plots of land. Sure I'd love to see the Tmn Rimba Kiara land clearing to be stopped since it haven't started selling yet and I am also interested on the outcome of the investigation involving a large number of those lands being sold to AK and those responsible be brought to justice, but not at the expense of penalising the buyers who bought either the latter rumawips or private projects for the latter case. So far I have not seen YB Lim offering any further assurances to those buyers outside of saying that they are not against home buyers and projects and for those that are already under-con, just let it proceed, when he first filed this case to MACC. From the news articles I've followed closely relating to this case, part of me is surprised that so many plots of land with no complaints from the people living in the area are lumped in together with those which are controversial in nature such as the above cases and hope that those responsible will be brought to justice, but part of me wondered whether he is doing this as part of his ambition to climb up the political ladder without giving much thought for the buyers of the affected projects. Oh well, can only wait for the outcome of this case. |
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Jun 17 2018, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 17 2018, 12:11 AM) I support any drive against corruption as much as the average Joe on the street and any investigation into public spaces (parts or whole) that DBKL, under Ku Nan's watch, single-handedly converted to be sold openly to any Tom, Dick and Harry developer(s) without any prior consultation with those who are living in the affected areas. as politician and/or lawyer by practice, you need to declare all possible dodgy deals to strengthen the case, doesn't matter if its already completed, wip, started selling or still vacant land.What I do not support is jeopardising the buyers of those projects which are, unfortunately, happens to be listed in the 64 plots of land. Sure I'd love to see the Tmn Rimba Kiara land clearing to be stopped since it haven't started selling yet and I am also interested on the outcome of the investigation involving a large number of those lands being sold to AK and those responsible be brought to justice, but not at the expense of penalising the buyers who bought either the latter rumawips or private projects for the latter case. So far I have not seen YB Lim offering any further assurances to those buyers outside of saying that they are not against home buyers and projects and for those that are already under-con, just let it proceed, when he first filed this case to MACC. From the news articles I've followed closely relating to this case, part of me is surprised that so many plots of land with no complaints from the people living in the area are lumped in together with those which are controversial in nature such as the above cases and hope that those responsible will be brought to justice, but part of me wondered whether he is doing this as part of his ambition to climb up the political ladder without giving much thought for the buyers of the affected projects. Oh well, can only wait for the outcome of this case. the law of contract should apply. |
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Jun 17 2018, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Jun 5 2018, 06:48 AM) Thanks to brother seechin for above info. aset kayamas are also affected cause they r involved in this DBKL plan? Instead of press release announcement (like Skyworld), Aset KAYAmas comeback by sponsoring Astro FIFA! This is just freaking epic! XD Btw, some "sources" claimed their cash flow got problem? Contractor payout delay? Project on hold? AK boss gonna run away? |
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Jun 18 2018, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 16 2018, 11:15 PM) No lah...he is after foul play by politicians in power using dbkl to enriched themselves. Fully agreed.We should support this. If develooers are paying market price for land and no hanly panky, no need to worry. Pavillion susah jor. that y Akisama RC residences didnt kena probed because they very good offer to exsiting resident to move. Have to pay for the dbkl for the land based on market value plus building new condo for existing resident to move for FREE. Existing 400ft2 now their new condo is 800ft2. I also want ler. Lol But when i said that in RC residences thread, some netizen said i cyber trooper pula. Sigh. |
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Jun 18 2018, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 17 2018, 11:22 AM) as politician and/or lawyer by practice, you need to declare all possible dodgy deals to strengthen the case, doesn't matter if its already completed, wip, started selling or still vacant land. Fully agreed againthe law of contract should apply. |
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Jun 18 2018, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Shir L @ Jun 17 2018, 05:41 PM) wahhhh.. can hv a list of wat are the projects in involved in tis? Please read our previous post. Linkin park 128 already posted a pdf list. And among all prominent developers in klang valley, only Akisama didnt kena . |
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Jun 16 2018, 04:51 PM) Kepong MP wants clarification on land sale to Umno linked company Boss, you got watch Astro World Cup these few days? AK DesaSentral advertisements 996..sponsored World Cup leh..they r so kind and generous Yet another land issue raised by Kepong MP... Location: Beside Mah Sing's Lakeville / RUMAWIP Seri Wahyu |
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Jul 19 2018, 08:43 PM
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Latest update: https://www.malaymail.com/s/1653824/dbkl-te...8-plots-of-land
48 plots good to go, 16 plots still pending. This post has been edited by LiNKInPaRk108: Jul 19 2018, 08:45 PM |
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Jul 19 2018, 09:43 PM) Latest update: https://www.malaymail.com/s/1653824/dbkl-te...8-plots-of-land "In giving an example of how DBKL might lose out if the sale of the parcels of land went through, the mayor said it would still benefit DBKL to refund a 10 per cent downpayment of RM40 million and a pay a compensation of RM40 million for an aborted sale of 12.9 hectares of land to a textile retailer in Cheras"48 plots good to go, 16 plots still pending. Sounds to me the land and the dev are revealed. Isn't it? LOL... |
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Jul 19 2018, 10:49 PM
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textile retailer in Cheras?
heheheh... seems very familiar Tongkat & connection previously really did their job well... |
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Jul 20 2018, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Jul 19 2018, 08:43 PM) Latest update: https://www.malaymail.com/s/1653824/dbkl-te...8-plots-of-land All this time I had the impression that this YB Lim just main sandiwara by coming out with that 64 land plot exposé.48 plots good to go, 16 plots still pending. Turns out only 18 kena. I wonder what he'll concoct next just for another shot to climb up the political ladder. |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jul 20 2018, 08:57 AM) All this time I had the impression that this YB Lim just main sandiwara by coming out with that 64 land plot exposé. despite a lawyer by profession, YB Lim cant speak very well, not in Bahasa, not in England and don't how about Chinese. definitely not a good message deliverman.Turns out only 18 kena. I wonder what he'll concoct next just for another shot to climb up the political ladder. need to wait lah, dun kan cheong. the 64 pieces are suspected corruption and mismanagement involved. the 16 of 64 are apdl not issued or payment not fully received by DBKL, can cancel immediately. This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Jul 20 2018, 09:02 AM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 20 2018, 09:01 AM) despite a lawyer by profession, YB Lim cant speak very well, not in Bahasa, not in England and don't how about Chinese. definitely not a good message deliverman. means he is in more action then talk ?need to wait lah, dun kan cheong. the 64 pieces are suspected corruption and mismanagement involved. the 16 of 64 are apdl not issued or payment not fully received by DBKL, can cancel immediately. |
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jul 20 2018, 10:22 AM) means he is in more action then talk ? Hi, goe the full list of this "Turns out only 18 kena" ?! |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 20 2018, 09:01 AM) despite a lawyer by profession, YB Lim cant speak very well, not in Bahasa, not in England and don't how about Chinese. definitely not a good message deliverman. Oh, I can wait. No hurry on that. need to wait lah, dun kan cheong. the 64 pieces are suspected corruption and mismanagement involved. the 16 of 64 are apdl not issued or payment not fully received by DBKL, can cancel immediately. I'm interested to see what's he'll come up next since his so-called 'crusade' didn't turn out the way he wanted. 16 out of 64 under investigation and the rest are cleared? Now that's sad. I wonder if he'll admit that he got his facts wrong on the rest, but knowing human nature, he won't do so. Come to think of it, the 18 plots seem out of place, tho. Separate investigation from YB Lim's 64 plot 'exposé'? This post has been edited by DesRed: Jul 20 2018, 05:35 PM |
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https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...over-breach-of/
"Three council home projects with a combined value of RM359mil were also culled comprising Project Satu Mas valued at RM285mil, Wirajaya Wangsa Maju (RM34.5mil) and UOA Bukit Kerinchi (RM40mil)." |
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well cannot say YB Lim talk kok only.. he got some point, but didn't fully hit the target...
I'm sensing He doing this for exposure of his political life in DAP.. well plan strategy actually.. fight for people and also for own survival.. 1 stone 2 bird |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 20 2018, 06:37 PM) well cannot say YB Lim talk kok only.. he got some point, but didn't fully hit the target... YB lim indeed doing more action than talk. Like beancounter said, dont kan cheong first.I'm sensing He doing this for exposure of his political life in DAP.. well plan strategy actually.. fight for people and also for own survival.. 1 stone 2 bird Please bear in mind, only 2 months plus since new government formed and imagine you need to learn every single thing in matter to push for any decision. Give them some time. 18parcel taken back is good progress. We all knew some of the remaining land already tansfer to companies. And in order to take it back, new govenment need to sue them in court and to sue them, they need time to obtain any form of hard evidence such as corruption and misconduct. Yes , we all know mesti ada misconduct since previous government sold these lands so cheap but kena cari those evidence. Previous government are not going to hand over these hard evidence so freely and new government were working out to find them. 2mths plus period and already can obtained back 18pieces of lands. I think it is a marvelous efforts. Dont you all think so? This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jul 21 2018, 02:27 PM |
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Jul 21 2018, 09:13 PM
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anybody knows status of the puduraya project?
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Jul 22 2018, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(earshore @ Jul 21 2018, 09:13 PM) anybody knows status of the puduraya project? you mean Plaza rakyat? |
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Jul 22 2018, 01:16 PM
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Yes, the plaza rakyat.
Recently they drained the pool. Now I can see the water coming back up So, what's the status? |
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Jul 23 2018, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(leslauliu @ Jul 21 2018, 02:26 PM) YB lim indeed doing more action than talk. Like beancounter said, dont kan cheong first. Yeah, but the mayor himself even forsee that buyers of the 3 plots of land out of the 18 plan to sue, and one of them is Jakel. Maybe the gov't/DBKL will win the case, then celebrate and move on. If they lost, then be prepared for taxpayers' monies to be used to compensate the 3 developers including Jakel.Please bear in mind, only 2 months plus since new government formed and imagine you need to learn every single thing in matter to push for any decision. Give them some time. 18parcel taken back is good progress. We all knew some of the remaining land already tansfer to companies. And in order to take it back, new govenment need to sue them in court and to sue them, they need time to obtain any form of hard evidence such as corruption and misconduct. Yes , we all know mesti ada misconduct since previous government sold these lands so cheap but kena cari those evidence. Previous government are not going to hand over these hard evidence so freely and new government were working out to find them. 2mths plus period and already can obtained back 18pieces of lands. I think it is a marvelous efforts. Dont you all think so? Then the pressure will be on DBKL to develop those lands they recovered in order to earn back those monies they lost to lawsuits from the buyers/developers. As for the 'anti-corruption fighter', YB Lim, he might get sued by the developers for defamation/libel for the 48 land plots out of 64 which were cleared by the MACC once the details of those projects are revealed. He should've crossed-checked the details in DBKL files (since Pakatan won GE14) before coming up with that 'broad' 64 land plot expose. I'm eagerly waiting to see how this unfolds. |
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Jul 23 2018, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jul 23 2018, 10:23 AM) Yeah, but the mayor himself even forsee that buyers of the 3 plots of land out of the 18 plan to sue, and one of them is Jakel. Maybe the gov't/DBKL will win the case, then celebrate and move on. If they lost, then be prepared for taxpayers' monies to be used to compensate the 3 developers including Jakel. Out of 18, the rest diam diam accept except 3 might sue. They are looking for trouble really.Then the pressure will be on DBKL to develop those lands they recovered in order to earn back those monies they lost to lawsuits from the buyers/developers. As for the 'anti-corruption fighter', YB Lim, he might get sued by the developers for defamation/libel for the 48 land plots out of 64 which were cleared by the MACC once the details of those projects are revealed. He should've crossed-checked the details in DBKL files (since Pakatan won GE14) before coming up with that 'broad' 64 land plot expose. I'm eagerly waiting to see how this unfolds. Anywhere even if they sue and won, dbkl will pay back deposit +penalty, its still way cheaper than continue w contract w dirt cheap price. |
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Aug 23 2018, 04:14 PM
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Oct 7 2018, 06:49 PM
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...A305asLkOLv9.01
Any idea which project will affected due to this buy back? |
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Oct 8 2018, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(twentyfour24 @ Oct 7 2018, 06:49 PM) https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...A305asLkOLv9.01 Your guess is as good as mine, but just like the 48 out of the 64 plots which are cleared, both DBKL and YB Lim are not forthcoming on the project and developer info (awaiting for MACC clearance, the latter said). I suspect that at this pace, we will not know in a very long time. Any idea which project will affected due to this buy back? As for that RM 120 mil of taxpayers' monies used to buy back those 10 plots, DBKL had better put those plots to good use. |
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Mar 4 2019, 09:40 AM
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https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...going-to-court/
while reading above statement, we all know which developer that refused to negotiate and want to sue DBKL based on previous news. |
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Mar 4 2019, 11:27 AM
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Our taxpayers' monies gone down the drain.
Hopefully Khalid will agree to an 'out-of-court' settlement to reduce the losses if the court rules in favour of the developer, since the latter already received a DO to develop that land. And since the 95 plots are cleared, will they reveal the details of those affected projects or 'wait for MACC clearance' like the last time? This post has been edited by DesRed: Mar 4 2019, 11:27 AM |
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Mar 4 2019, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Ed007 @ Mar 4 2019, 09:40 AM) https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...going-to-court/ sorry ... you mean AK?while reading above statement, we all know which developer that refused to negotiate and want to sue DBKL based on previous news. |
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Mar 4 2019, 03:54 PM
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seems like AK
because they one got many projects under previous regime... all in strategic location in WPKL |
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Mar 4 2019, 08:39 PM
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it's not AK..if it's AK, why the heck is Khalid launching AK's project jalilmas while smiling with AK boss Tan Sri Chai Kin Kong ..
settle backdoor one, cuz AK's alegedly bribe Ku Nan 2milion and still get away with it...meanwhile the other fella, forgot his name alegedly bribe Ku Nan 1 million got kena in court |
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Mar 4 2019, 08:44 PM
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So which one??
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Mar 5 2019, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(n3ar @ Mar 4 2019, 08:39 PM) it's not AK..if it's AK, why the heck is Khalid launching AK's project jalilmas while smiling with AK boss Tan Sri Chai Kin Kong .. Selective prosecution. Same old tactic this PH gov't adopted from BN.settle backdoor one, cuz AK's alegedly bribe Ku Nan 2milion and still get away with it...meanwhile the other fella, forgot his name alegedly bribe Ku Nan 1 million got kena in court Well, whoever the landowner is, it wasn't named at all. I recall reading an article some time back when this 'dubious' land transaction case was still hot, Khalid did mention that one or two of the landowners wasn't happy with the compensation when DBKL seized back their respective land plots and decided to settle it in court. |
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Mar 5 2019, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Mar 5 2019, 04:15 PM) Selective prosecution. Same old tactic this PH gov't adopted from BN. whoever they are, they are certainly not AK...not when they got khalid launching their rumawip rebranded as residensi wilayah everywhere...Well, whoever the landowner is, it wasn't named at all. I recall reading an article some time back when this 'dubious' land transaction case was still hot, Khalid did mention that one or two of the landowners wasn't happy with the compensation when DBKL seized back their respective land plots and decided to settle it in court. meanwhile they screw their buyer with charges & nonsense when wanna VP... there are a few unnamed developers who got those land but have not started on their project |
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Jul 10 2019, 10:18 AM
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Latest update on the now DBKL 97 plots saga (jump from 64 plots initially) MACC approves 64 of 97 DBKL land deals under scrutiny:
QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR (July 1): The Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) has approved 64 Kuala Lumpur City Hall land deals under 97 transactions scrutinised by the city hall's new administration. The Kuala Lumpur City Hall is also known as Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL). According to news reports, the land sales were conducted by DBKL during former federal territories minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor's tenure, for a value of around RM5.63 billion. Federal Territories Minister Khalid Abdul Samad told the Parliament today that out of the 97 transactions, 33 deals do not "principally" require the MACC's investigation. Khalid, who was responding to a question by Tumpat MP Datuk Che Abdullah Mat Nawi, said out of the 97 transactions, DBKL has allowed 81 deals to continue. "However one [out of the 81] was brought to court, not by the developer but by third parties," Khalid said. According to Khalid, 14 of the 97 deals have been cancelled via mutual agreements between DBKL and the respective developers. He said DBKL also intends to cancel the remaining two land deals, one of which is under mediation because the developer refused the cancellation. DBKL is waiting for a response from the developer on the other deal. For the full proceedings, read the Parliament Hansard dated 1st July. No squeak from Lim Lip Eng, Hannah Yeoh or even Tan Kok Wai on the above. Even C4 did not follow through on their so-called 'revelation' on the Taman Rimba Kiara corruption findings. |
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Jan 5 2020, 10:25 AM
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Khalid: Review of dubious land transactions secures RM481m for DBKL in 2019
QUOTE PUTRAJAYA (Dec 31): The Federal Territories Ministry secured RM481 million for Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) this year, as a result of a review of 97 dubious land transactions. Minister Khalid Abd Samad said all negotiations undertaken currently by the ministry and its agencies are made in accordance with a clear policy and regulations, based on valuations done by the Valuation and Property Services Department. "There is no special offer or low price or a price that is higher than the valuation. What took place in the past will not recur because the ministry has put in place strict procedures in connection with all land transactions", he said at a press conference here yesterday on the achievements of the ministry and its agencies throughout 2019. The minister also talked about the effectiveness of a Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) programme in which private construction companies which undertake upgrading works for existing facilities, are given the opportunity to 'adopt' a housing scheme for underprivileged communities (Program Perumahan Rakyat) to improve the quality of life of such residents. "The problem before is that developers gave a lot of donations but it is not known where these donations went to. This is based on information from developers themselves," he said, advising that donations should be made through CSR programmes such as efforts focused on maintenance, repairs, beautification and interacting with residents "so that the cycle of poverty does not continue". On the achievements recorded by Putrajaya Corporation, Khalid said 212 international events had been organised, attracting up to six million visitors, while in Labuan, the first edition International Kite Festival 2019 attracted 34 foreign entries from Germany, Australia, Japan and Sweden, among others. Business as usual, eh? Wonder what happened to a few land owners who threatened to sue. Already settled behind closed doors? This post has been edited by DesRed: Jan 5 2020, 10:26 AM |
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