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TSAcher13
post May 12 2018, 09:49 AM, updated 7y ago

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Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:49 AM)
Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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No
They dont
I have many pprt fren name putera puteri
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post May 12 2018, 09:51 AM

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not really


for example tengku Adnan is celup one and nothing to do with royalty
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post May 12 2018, 09:51 AM

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50/50 probability got royal blood

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post May 12 2018, 09:53 AM

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My office receptionist have the name as mentioned she said no relationship at all.
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post May 12 2018, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ May 12 2018, 09:50 AM)
No
They dont
I have many pprt fren name putera puteri
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So is just part of the name kan? hahaha

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2018, 09:51 AM)
not really
for example tengku Adnan is celup one and nothing to do with royalty
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lol, Tengku is not some commoner with title only ka? given by royal, macam nobility punya given title.
real royal use Tuanku kan?


ayam bad at this, wiki makes more binggung since they give official punya explanation as a title, not the given name to a person.
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post May 12 2018, 09:55 AM

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Putera puteri, no.

Raja, some of them yes they are part of the royal family but many of them only have lineage by history but no longer considered as royal family.
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:54 AM)
So is just part of the name kan? hahaha
lol, Tengku is not some commoner with title only ka? given by royal, macam nobility punya given title.
real royal use Tuanku kan?
ayam bad at this, wiki makes more binggung since they give official punya explanation as a title, not the given name to a person.
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Yes
Just a term
A name
Means nothing
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post May 12 2018, 09:56 AM

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Funny, my Indian friend name is "Raja". I need to ask him this question too.
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post May 12 2018, 09:57 AM

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Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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post May 12 2018, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ May 12 2018, 09:55 AM)
Yes
Just a term
A name
Means nothing
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So for example, my name is Bijan Razak, i can name my son Tengku Bijak bin Bijan Razak just for shits and giggles?
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QUOTE(Nafirii @ May 12 2018, 09:58 AM)
So for example, my name is Bijan Razak, i can name my son Tengku Bijak bin Bijan Razak just for shits and giggles?
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Exactly

U can even put raja putra baginda


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post May 12 2018, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:49 AM)
Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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50/50 is the correct answer.
Girls = Puteri

But not directly connected anymore to the royals. "saudara jauh"
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post May 12 2018, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:54 AM)

lol, Tengku is not some commoner with title only ka? given by royal, macam nobility punya given title.
real royal use Tuanku kan?
ayam bad at this, wiki makes more binggung since they give official punya explanation as a title, not the given name to a person.
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Tuanku is reserved only for the Sultan. Even his heir cannot use that title. And it is a title, not name.

Tengku is also title within the context of royalty and depending on state. Like Johor, it is Tunku. In Perak, it is Raja.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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Nasution is a 'marga'. Family name of Mandailing people of sumatera.
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post May 12 2018, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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Never know of this, interesting.
So Raja is reserved name only if ada lineage?
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QUOTE(BS8110 @ May 12 2018, 10:00 AM)
Tuanku is reserved only for the Sultan. Even his heir cannot use that title. And it is a title, not name.

Tengku is also title within the context of royalty and depending on state. Like Johor, it is Tunku. In Perak, it is Raja.
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cough..... tengku Adnan ... cough...
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2018, 10:01 AM)
cough..... tengku Adnan ... cough...
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That one, you know I know...
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post May 12 2018, 10:05 AM

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No such link, they have such names coz mom n dad like to watch drama melayu slot akasia..haha

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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:49 AM)
Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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NO.
patut ada undang melarang ini semua
buat orang ramai keliru
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QUOTE(iCare @ May 12 2018, 10:00 AM)
Nasution is a 'marga'. Family name of Mandailing people of sumatera.
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 10:01 AM)
Never know of this, interesting.
So Raja is reserved name only if ada lineage?
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Yes. When registering newborn, JPN will first check the lineage of the family on their database. If the lineage is proven, then only can the baby be named according to their lineage.
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post May 12 2018, 10:13 AM

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Can I name my future son Tengku Lee Teng Ku?
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post May 12 2018, 10:19 AM

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Another 1 is megat. But i cant remember why jpn doesnt recognize it as a special name. The megat family still appealing jpn to reconsider
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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Then raja bomoh how ? Celup punya ?
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 12 2018, 10:19 AM)
Another 1 is megat. But i cant remember why jpn doesnt recognize it as a special name. The megat family still appealing jpn to reconsider
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Megat is same like nik, wan, tuan (yes there is), puteri, dayang, awang.
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 12 2018, 10:19 AM)
Another 1 is megat. But i cant remember why jpn doesnt recognize it as a special name. The megat family still appealing jpn to reconsider
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what does megat really stands for? same as ydpt?
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post May 12 2018, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 10:21 AM)
what does megat really stands for? same as ydpt?
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Keturunan megat terawis. Its a name, not acronym

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post May 12 2018, 10:25 AM

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Just like any Lee in malaysia, related to Li Ka Shing?

Long long long family tree....
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QUOTE(toughguy @ May 12 2018, 10:13 AM)
Can I name my future son Tengku Lee Teng Ku?
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If i am not mistaken, if you marry a woman (malay) with title raja, your sons and daughters will get tengku.

So if your name is low chi bai and u convert to islam marry a woman with Raja prefix, you can name your kids starting with tengku.
But i think it would be a first if your sons / daughters retain chinese name.. Like tengku low chew siao.. Maybe better if you put ur kids name like tengku adam chew siao bin ur name.

And if your marrying a woman with tengku title, you will get to name your kids name with Wan.

Like Wan Adam Chew Siao bin ur name.
I could be wrong though.

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QUOTE(BULLDOG26 @ May 12 2018, 10:21 AM)
Then raja bomoh how ? Celup punya ?
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post May 12 2018, 10:44 AM

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1 thing for sure they are descendant of Noah.
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JPN usually restricts some name/title through lineage, most kelantan people have wan, nik or tengku because of that lineage. Although I'm not sure how they check the lineage.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ May 12 2018, 09:50 AM)
No
They dont
I have many pprt fren name putera puteri
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Pakistani come to msia get ic also put Tengku in front. Now is umno treasurer... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:49 AM)
Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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yup as well as puteri and megat , far far blood relation

inb4 India also got Raja how ?
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QUOTE(azbro @ May 12 2018, 09:56 AM)
Funny, my Indian friend name is "Raja". I need to ask him this question too.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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why India can use Raja

Raja Gopal

inb4
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QUOTE(toughguy @ May 12 2018, 10:13 AM)
Can I name my future son Tengku Lee Teng Ku?
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u better put Duke Tan Ser LI

futer they either call Tan sri or Duke Sir at England
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QUOTE(azbro @ May 12 2018, 09:56 AM)
Funny, my Indian friend name is "Raja". I need to ask him this question too.
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Usually those royalty got some additional title on their name
Like YM(yang mulia)
My PT got this
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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How about Nik?
And who or which family would use Ambak?

QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 12 2018, 10:19 AM)
Another 1 is megat. But i cant remember why jpn doesnt recognize it as a special name. The megat family still appealing jpn to reconsider
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Who or what is family Megat?
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QUOTE(bereev @ May 12 2018, 11:02 AM)
why India can use Raja

Raja Gopal

inb4
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Because it is a traditional Indian name. There is no traditional Malay name begin with Raja. In Malay community, Raja is a title name reserved for the Royals.
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ May 12 2018, 11:06 AM)
How about Nik?
And who or which family would use Ambak?
Who or what is family Megat?
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I don't quite remember where Ambak came from. Some of our equestrian athletes are from this Ambak clan. They are also close to Pak Lah family.
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ May 12 2018, 11:06 AM)
How about Nik?
And who or which family would use Ambak?
Who or what is family Megat?
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Megat is the son of Raja , daughter will be Puteri
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so far ayam know “raja” is related to royal blood..

other just take 50/50...
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 11:09 AM)
I don't quite remember where Ambak came from. Some of our equestrian athletes are from this Ambak clan. They are also close to Pak Lah family.
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QUOTE(bereev @ May 12 2018, 11:13 AM)
Megat is the son of Raja , daughter will be Puteri
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Ah I see.
Quite interesting. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ May 12 2018, 11:44 AM)
Ah I see.
Quite interesting. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, kinda headache handling people with titles ni. Do you know there are some title like Megat that is only applicable in Sarawak, not the rest of Malaysia. Which is kinda weird considering there are many Megat here in the Peninsular.
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You can name your son Trump also
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:49 AM)
Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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Well those whose name is putera, puteri but without royalty blood are bcoz their parent suka hati put that name.

I can say that bcoz my wife is Sharifah, which is the true royalty blood.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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Well now those Wan, Syed etc are barred from your son/daugther name unless you are from the lineage.

I am entitled to Wan title because I am married to Sharifah but because of others who without royalty blood, I can't lol
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QUOTE(kirakosmos @ May 12 2018, 11:57 AM)
Well now those Wan, Syed etc are barred from your son/daugther name unless you are from the lineage.

I am entitled to Wan title because I am married to Sharifah but because of others who without royalty blood, I can't lol
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You are married to Sharifah but you are not entitled to a Wan. Your kids are entitled.
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QUOTE(J1g54w @ May 12 2018, 11:49 AM)
You can name your son Trump also
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Yes you can. Except that you don't want your kids to be a laughing stock.
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 09:49 AM)
Since is not my culture, help me add knowledge

If the guy punya nama ada "Raja", "Putera" or "Puteri" means ada related to any royal family by far family tree?
mohon pencerahan because never seen or meet anyone with "Permaisuri" or "Ratu" yet.

my kolik say so punya, but ayam skeptical lel.
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Can be, can also not be
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 12:02 PM)
You are married to Sharifah but you are not entitled to a Wan. Your kids are entitled.
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Ya I mean my kids. My bad but JPN wont allowed it.
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QUOTE(kirakosmos @ May 12 2018, 12:18 PM)
Ya I mean my kids. My bad but JPN wont allowed it.
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JPN won't allow what? You kids to bear the title Wan?

They will check the status of your wife first. If both or the father of your wife is Syed/Sharifah, then your kids are allowed to use Wan. But if only the mother of your wife is a Sharifah while the father is a commoner, normally, the lineage of your wife stop with her. JPN won't allow your kids to bear Wan in their name since it was broken during their grandparent time.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 12:42 PM)
JPN won't allow what? You kids to bear the title Wan?

They will check the status of your wife first. If both or the father of your wife is Syed/Sharifah, then your kids are allowed to use Wan. But if only the mother of your wife is a Sharifah while the father is a commoner, normally, the lineage of your wife stop with her. JPN won't allow your kids to bear Wan in their name since it was broken during their grandparent time.
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Yup. But then it is her grandmother wish, Tunku but alas JPN need the documents to say she is infact the bloodline of royalty which is troublesome. Then just leaves my daugther name as it is instead of having Wan

If not my daugther can become WAH smile.gif

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QUOTE(kirakosmos @ May 12 2018, 01:23 PM)
Yup. But then it is her grandmother wish, Tunku but alas JPN need the documents to say she is infact the bloodline of royalty which is troublesome. Then just leaves my daugther name as it is instead of having Wan

If not my daugther can become WAH smile.gif
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Yes. JPN will ask for a credential (letters etc).
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ May 12 2018, 09:50 AM)
No
They dont
I have many pprt fren name putera puteri
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what about tengku?,
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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ May 12 2018, 01:30 PM)
what about tengku?,
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ May 12 2018, 09:59 AM)
Exactly

U can even put raja putra baginda
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Tengku Putera Baginda Naruto? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 12 2018, 01:39 PM)
Tengku Putera Baginda Naruto? whistling.gif
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Exactly that biggrin.gif
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Ikut negeri
Those like Tengku, Puteri, Nik mostly from North or East

Owai mcm panai je ku ni
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QUOTE(ali_xpdc @ May 12 2018, 09:51 AM)
50/50 probability got royal blood
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This.. RPK is one of them
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ May 12 2018, 09:50 AM)
No
They dont
I have many pprt fren name putera puteri
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You win sir...srs...what so good about the name? Aigoo...
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There are also people without the raja but still royalty that works as commoners
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ May 12 2018, 10:21 AM)
what does megat really stands for? same as ydpt?
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 12 2018, 10:24 AM)
Keturunan megat terawis. Its a name, not acronym
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megat terawis is the first perak bendahara. only his male lineage got inherit the megat. same as meor.
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post Apr 22 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(status quo @ Apr 22 2019, 02:09 PM)
megat terawis is the first perak bendahara. only his male lineage got inherit the megat. same as meor.
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never know of any meor.. what is meor then?
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QUOTE(ali_xpdc @ May 12 2018, 09:51 AM)
50/50 probability got royal blood
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niama might as well dont ans
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ Apr 22 2019, 03:37 PM)
never know of any meor.. what is meor then?
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meor is like megat, mostly in perak. nobody knows where its origin from. but most reliable theory is it origin from Mir/Emir (arabic for king/ruler). in arabic letter it is spelled mim ya ro (M,Y,R). because of rumi conversion, the british misspelled it to mior or meor.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2018, 09:57 AM)
Raja is special name reserved to royal blood only.
Putera and Puteri can be use by anybody.
Some other special name reserved to certain clan or royal lineage are Wan, Syed, Megat, Nasution, Ambak, Syarifah, Tengku and Tunku.

This is according to JPN ruling
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How Raja Petra gets his name?
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Syed/syarifah, megat/puteri, wan, meor etc are not royalty but descendants from nobility. Only tengku/tunku are considered decendants of royalties even if they ate commoners now. If I'm not mistaken, the direct line up until 3rd/4th cousins are counted as royal families. That also depends on whether they marry into royalties or commoners.

Syed/syarifah is believed to be descendants of the prophet too.

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my friend got royal connection have raja name

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