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 ILLEGEAR Onyx Discussion Thread V1, Illegear's first Bazel-less Notebook

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ZM Fong
post May 5 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(hshern95 @ May 5 2019, 09:12 AM)
Yea, and I already undervolt around -100mA. Any ideas to reduce the temp?
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1. Repaste - but I think it has Kryonaut applied out of the box
2. Lift up the back of the laptop by a bit (don't block the intakes)
3. Try lower down PL1 limit (eg 45W, original is 70W), maybe reduce all core clock speed (eg 3.6GHz instead of 3.9)
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post May 5 2019, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ May 5 2019, 12:20 PM)
dota2 doesn't require much CPU to game on anyway
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It's CPU dependent game, higher clock speed does make a difference
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post May 9 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Star_knight79 @ May 9 2019, 01:53 PM)
How about the keyboard typing experience?

I saw some reviews mentioned that the Keyboard is rather erratic.
Key registered sometimes with a gentle touch and sometimes don't even register after a full touch
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Solid feel

The issue you mentioned above is there, but it doesn't happen often. At least from my testing
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post May 9 2019, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Star_knight79 @ May 9 2019, 02:37 PM)
Thanks for the info. How about the key button? Are they wobbly?
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Nope. Keycap in Selenite is wobblier

Shouldn't be an issue if you used to press key very hard. I type very gentle so that's why I can feel the wobbliness more

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post May 9 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 9 2019, 10:25 PM)
Keyboard "issues" used to happen more with the Blue switches and older keycaps, and it's more of the former (registering accidentally with light touches). TBH, I have NEVER experienced the other "don't even register after a full touch" thing you're describing, with either keyboard configs.

With the newer Brown switches and V2 caps, there's not so much of even the "light touch mis-register" thing even, so that's that.

That said, the overly compact layout (thanks to the numpad) does lead to a bit more typing errors to those used to a bit more space between their keys.

Advise you drop by the Illegear showroom to test if possible.
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post May 13 2019, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 06:43 PM)
Nah. Onyx RTX2060 with i7 8750h . I abit regret going for Onyx because the 17 inch screen look so much better for gaming. Plus quite abit better temps.  Plus Selenite support Windows Hello face authentication. Onyx dont hv this. Both models no fingerprint reader.

You read ZM Fong's review. I think quite similar to wat i find. The only thing i dont like about Selenite is the all plastic chassis. Onyx whole chassis is metal except the bottom cover.
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Personally I also like Selenite more. I prefer 17 inch (must have thin bezels) and it has better cooling. I don't think the plastic build is a big issue since the chassis is sturdy. Onyx is also good, but 15 inch thin and light don't have much cooling room.
QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 07:04 PM)
I prefer the older Zephyrus since the RTX version has only 1 RAM slot, another 8GB soldered onto the motherboard. I really hate this. Throughout my 10 years working in IT industry , i had so many RAM failures. If soldered RAM kaput, i have to change whole motherboard which is ridiculously expensive. I like its innovative cooling solution though.

Most thin and light laptops like Onyx and Zephyrus has ways to cut power to the CPU to reduce heat and fan noise. The Onyx has office mode which will cut max tdp to 35W if you think the fan is too noisy. If you max out both GPU and CPU running AVX instruction set, the Onyx will hit upwards of 95C on the CPU. Gaming is no issue at all though, it has good temps.

A few years ago i had an Asus A42JC laptop. Motherboard kaput after a year. Sent back for warranty. Took 2 months only come back. Got scratches some more when return to me. I was so pissed and never ever buy an Asus laptop .
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Hmm what do you work?

Personally I don't like Office mode even though it has customizable fan curve which might help to reduce fan noise. IMO the more effective method is reduce clock speed (not disable turbo) with undervolt (or turn down PL1? never tried that before though, probably won't work)

Asus warranty...don't want to comment on this anymore

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post May 13 2019, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 08:58 PM)
Maybe its only me. But the feel of touching a metal chassis does feel more premium to me since these things are not cheap at all. But then i like the Selenite keycap. It looks unique.

I am an IT innovation and technology analyst in education line. The office mode is good to watch movie or just Youtube. I get much better battery life ( 30% battery bar drop per hour at 1080p Youtube with 128mV underclock). That is with a touch of a button. That button is max fan for the GTX Onyx but Office/Gaming mode for RTX Onyx.  I know you can fiddle around with XTU but how many clicks do you need to set it. Undervolt do work concurrent with office mode. Plus you have to be aware that starting version 6.5 ,XTU will not work with locked CPU like 8750H or 9750H.
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Haha I prefer Onyx keycap more. Less wobbling

I always use Throttlestop, XTU is a pain to use IMO.

Perhaps we can have a chat together in future? brows.gif
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post May 15 2019, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(aomerodi @ May 15 2019, 05:31 PM)
I had thoughts of an unboxing and quick review/look around video.
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Why not. User experience/sharing is important. Looking forward to that
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post May 19 2019, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(wookp @ May 19 2019, 12:14 AM)
Quick check on the Onyx. I have the RTX2060 but i ccan't seem to turn on G-Sync. Help please?
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This model doesn't have GSYNC
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post May 20 2019, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(wookp @ May 19 2019, 10:28 PM)
Not even when i connect it to a free sync monitor?
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This one not sure but should work
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post May 20 2019, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(wookp @ May 20 2019, 12:34 AM)
Well I am connecting it to a freesync monitor but no g sync option available.
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You're referring to the new GSYNC thing that enables GSYNC in some freesync monitor?
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post May 30 2019, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ May 30 2019, 08:56 AM)
Anyone upgraded battery on Onyx 8750h and 2060? How's the before and after battery life?
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Tested - expect ~5 hrs of YT 720p video playback (force iGPU)
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post Oct 1 2019, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Oct 1 2019, 01:58 PM)
could be hotter with 9750h
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8750H is slightly hotter actually due to minor differences in manufacturing, even though specs look similar
QUOTE(KillerActual @ Oct 1 2019, 03:03 PM)
I'm using the model with the 9750H onboard. Really surprised me as I'm not used to temps this high, thanks for the input.
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Can help you go through some testing if you want to

 

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