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 Michelin Primacy 4, Availability date in Malaysia?

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dudester
post Sep 5 2022, 12:52 PM

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How is Primacy 4 st to Continental UC 6? price wise i got quoted 450 vs 380 in klang.. wonder if i can save some money with UC6.
Looking for less noise and comfort.
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post Sep 11 2022, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Sep 5 2022, 12:52 PM)
How is Primacy 4 st to Continental UC 6? price wise i got quoted 450 vs 380 in klang.. wonder if i can save some money with UC6.
Looking for less noise and comfort.
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Now Conti came out with UC7 alrdy, supposed improvement over UC6.

Having move from uc6 to primacy (on different cars), for me primacy still far ahead.

What are your current tyres?
If not comfort tyres, uc7 will show some improvemnt.
Personally i would go for primacy everytime.
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post Sep 12 2022, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Sep 11 2022, 07:27 PM)
Now Conti came out with UC7 alrdy, supposed improvement over UC6.

Having move from uc6 to primacy (on different cars), for me primacy still far ahead.

What are your current tyres?
If not comfort tyres, uc7 will show some improvemnt.
Personally i would go for primacy everytime.
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post Oct 18 2022, 02:11 PM

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I’m still waiting for Primacy 4 + plus. Heard it gives better mileage and tread wear vs Primacy4 . Anyone knows when will launch here? My P4 on its last leg already 2.4mm tread depth
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Feb 25 2022, 01:30 PM)
Hey James, how's your Primacy 4 doing comparing to your prev PS4? Me too having dilemma if I should move to Primacy from PS4. PS4 is great no doubt wet and dry, probably best I ever driven on but the tire noise and the bumpiness is bad especially after half worn.

How much of the handling deficit compare to PS4 and how's the wet grip like?
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After switching from PS4 to P4 on both my cars. FF turbocharged Volvo ( done 20k km ) and FR NA BMW (done 45k km)

I feel PS4 is only 20 percent better in dry handling and grip and 10 percent better in hydroplane resistance and wet grip

P4 is much more Longer lasting ,Quieter , comfortable and Better value for daily driver.

Overall for average daily driver, Primacy 4 is more than good enough. Most drivers will struggle to find the limits of the P4 what more PS4. I only like PS4 and the new PS5 for its awesome looking side wall design. Wish the new P4+ will get that design too .

I find Michelin tyres as a whole are able to maintain its performance and grip level well until almost botak.

In my experience dry grip and handling actually improves as the tyres wears down ( last 1/4 tyre life) Rolling resistance also much reduced. Only rainy days have to be careful due to lower tread grooves.


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post Oct 18 2022, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(JamesLR @ Oct 18 2022, 02:32 PM)
After switching from PS4 to P4 on both my cars. FF turbocharged Volvo ( done 20k km ) and FR NA BMW (done 45k km)

I feel PS4 is only 20 percent better in dry handling and grip and 10 percent better in hydroplane resistance and wet grip

P4 is much more Longer lasting ,Quieter , comfortable and Better value for daily driver.

Overall for average daily driver, Primacy 4 is more than good enough. Most drivers will struggle to find the limits of the P4 what more PS4. I only like PS4 and the new PS5 for its awesome looking side wall design. Wish the new P4+ will get that design too .

I find Michelin tyres as a whole are able to maintain its performance and grip level well until almost botak.

In my experience dry grip and handling actually improves as the tyres wears down ( last 1/4 tyre life) Rolling resistance also much reduced. Only rainy days have to be careful due to lower tread grooves.
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I faced grip degradation upon reaching <30% of tread remaining (PS4). Needed to make more corrections while attacking corners.

For daily driving, I certainly agree. Performance is there until almost bald, and maybe for the mass market, P4 is more than sufficient.

But just to share an experience, my fronts had 2.4mm and rears 1.8mm remaining, so I rotated the tyres to use up the remaining 2.4mm on the rears before switching to a new set of PS5s, and on that very night before the date of replacement, I had a sidewall puncture on the front which I assume was caused by tyre overheating from constantly running at 190km/h+ for an hour due to a lack of tread dispersing the heat.

Separate topic: nice E36 btw, which engine is this? I see an M3 side door trim, but the side mirrors are non-M3s so I'm not sure what you have plonked in there haha

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post Oct 27 2022, 11:30 PM

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Sad... They have no plan to bring in P4+.

Msg from Michelin facebook page 3 weeks ago.
"Hi xxx, thank you for your interest. There are no plans to bring in MICHELIN Primacy 4+ tyres to Malaysia. You may check out our other range of MICHELIN tyres here : https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/home-auto
Thank you and have a great day!"
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post Nov 20 2022, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Oct 18 2022, 06:00 PM)
I faced grip degradation upon reaching <30% of tread remaining (PS4). Needed to make more corrections while attacking corners.

For daily driving, I certainly agree. Performance is there until almost bald, and maybe for the mass market, P4 is more than sufficient.

But just to share an experience, my fronts had 2.4mm and rears 1.8mm remaining, so I rotated the tyres to use up the remaining 2.4mm on the rears before switching to a new set of PS5s, and on that very night before the date of replacement, I had a sidewall puncture on the front which I assume was caused by tyre overheating from constantly running at 190km/h+ for an hour due to a lack of tread dispersing the heat.

Separate topic: nice E36 btw, which engine is this? I see an M3 side door trim, but the side mirrors are non-M3s so I'm not sure what you have plonked in there haha
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Thank you! Mine is just a stock std 325i (M50TUB25) straight 6 with 5 speed manual.


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QUOTE(JamesLR @ Nov 20 2022, 01:12 PM)
Thank you! Mine is just a stock std 325i (M50TUB25) straight 6 with 5 speed manual.
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Very nice! Credits to you for maintaining it in such a good shape
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post Nov 26 2022, 10:43 AM

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I'm planning to change all tyre to primacy 4. My question is do you get to trade in your old tyre? One shop I ask for 215/55/16 don't do trade in.
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QUOTE(razkal @ Nov 26 2022, 10:43 AM)
I'm planning to change all tyre to primacy 4. My question is do you get to trade in your old tyre? One shop I ask for 215/55/16 don't do trade in.
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shop are looking for resellable stock to trade.
if botak or strange size wont deal
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 27 2022, 12:22 AM)
shop are looking for resellable stock to trade.
if botak or strange size wont deal
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Ok thanks for the info.
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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Apr 9 2022, 08:49 PM)
What's the difference between Primacy 4 vs Primacy 4ST?
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Just came across this thread, and maybe got the answer for what being asked, the difference between Primacy 4 and Primacy 4 ST are:

-Both are designed for Asia Pacific Region's extreme road and weather conditions (bumpy road, potholes and thunderstorms).
-ST means Silent Tuned, available in Asia not in Europe due to drivers' prioritize less noise in Asia for apparent reasons.

As far as I concerned, verified with a tyre shop, for tyre size below 16 inches, there is no Primacy 4 for local market.
Some primacy 4 are parallel import from overseas. For this part, standard speech comes in, no warranty given by Michelin Malaysia.
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post Dec 27 2022, 12:22 PM

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my old primacy 4 have done 80K milage and 4 years time before retired overall the grip is still good on wet road but just tyre noise is abit higher as compared when new. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2023, 04:40 PM

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How much is the the P225/65R17?
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post Jan 27 2023, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 27 2023, 05:40 PM)
How much is the the P225/65R17?
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Bro, ur size is for SUV not passenger car tires.
Please go into michelin website and check the available model.
This tread is about Primacy 4, not SUV or PS4 SUV.
Besides that different area/location, shop also got different price.
Please check the official distributor also from the website and confirm with them.

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/browse-tyr...225/65/17/102/H
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 27 2023, 04:48 PM)
Bro, ur size is for SUV not passenger car tires.
Please go into michelin website and check the available model.
This tread is about Primacy 4, not SUV or PS4 SUV.
Besides that different area/location, shop also got different price.
Please check the official distributor also from the website and confirm with them.

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/browse-tyr...225/65/17/102/H
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Thank You. Yes. It is for SUV. blush.gif
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my 215/60R17 P4 is going to EOL soon, perhaps 10k more. Have been using it for 44k now, still have around 1mm thread depth from the indicator, grip still quite good in dry and wet surprisingly. The comfort and noise level hasn't change much though. Definitely would like to go back to the same tyre but the price is killing me for this size. It almost 600 per piece due to this odd size.
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post Mar 29 2023, 08:24 AM

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Trade in new stock tyres to Primacy 4 x 4 (215/50/R17) and now Michelin having Raya promotion were up to RM40 rebate per donut.

For 17 inch, there is RM30 rebate per donut and it cost me RM499 (before Raya rebate) for one, not too bad the price I would say since got rebate



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post May 21 2023, 09:58 PM

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Hi All

I really wanted to get the primacy 4 for my 2022 Iriz, but since I intend to keep the OEM rims I'd like the tyre to be 185/60 R15. Problem is primacy 4 doesn't come with 185s I believe. There's also the possibility of facing higher fuel consumption if I go for 195s.

Are there any other tyres that can fit the size and still be close in performance to the primacy 4? I appreciate the comfort and low noise but I'd like to still keep high wet grip (so I feel I should avoid CC6).

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