QUOTE(hyalbert @ Dec 6 2022, 02:24 PM)
Astro installer came yesterday to replace PVR with Ultra Box but did not change the LNB Universal type to DCSS type. He informed that he was not supplied the DCSS to change at the satellite dish. Upon installation, my TV could receive the UHD transmission with HDR at channel 805 and the installer maintained that there is no need to change the LNB. He asked me to contact Astro CS if I still want to change to the DCSS LNB.
I then called CS and was informed that Ultra Box and 4KTV which is HDCP 2.2 compliant are only required to receive UHD transmission. I told her that would be the requirements for Plug and Play installation but as my case involved the satellite dish why no LNB change but she replied not necessary for the LNB change as my TV was already receiving the 805 transmission.
However later on in the day when reading the Ultra Box Installation Guide (the installer left it inside the carton box during his installation) I found out on Page 17 on Satellite Antenna Connection where the DCSS is specifically mentioned.
So why did the installer and CS staff still maintain no need to change LNB to DCSS? I give the benefit to the installer that he was not provided with the DCSS as it was not difficult for him to get to the satellite dish at my house as it was installed at the balcony area on the first floor and he could just sit there to change the LNB.
I have since written to wecare@Astro on this matter.
Like to check whether any of you have recently changed to the Ultra Box using satellite connection and was the the LNB changed ?
Also what are the problems if the LNB is not changed to DCSS type using the Ultra Box ?
QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Dec 7 2022, 02:47 PM)
DCSS LNB is no longer mandatory for Ultra Box installations?Since the official launch of Ultra Box in 2019, it's been a known fact that you need DCSS LNB to receive 4K UHD channels. If you're not using one, then the installers are supposed to use or replace to the DCSS LNB on your Astro satellite dish (except for those who've been using SatCR LNB prior to this).
But I'm not sure since exactly when, but it appears that Astro has been quietly change this rule, and now saying that the usage of DCSS LNB are no longer mandatory for Ultra Box, and you can continue using your existing conventional Universal LNB to receive 4K UHD channels. And that, I was so surprised...

Tbh I find it hard to believe, until when I go through the Satellite Settings on my Ultra Box, and I notice that "Universal" option has appeared as part of the "LNB Type" option, which is something that I never ever see before on Ultra Box...


Yes, you saw that correctly. Pictures you see above is from Astro Ultra Box, not Ulti Box ya.
Earlier, I tried to swap my Astro dish's LNB to my old Universal LNB (which I've kept it for spare), and upon selecting "Universal" as LNB Type, and I can confirm that I am able to receive UHD channel 805 like normal, and no SCNA message whatsoever...

So far I don't see this information being updated on Astro's support webpages (if you do, let me know), so I assume that this is a "secret" that they don't want too many people to know yet.
Anyway, I find this a very good news to majority of the users and installers out there, considering the technical difficulties in using DCSS LNB for some customers is now a thing of the past.
I've been digging some info from reliable sources, and I've been told that Astro will still continue using DCSS LNB in certain installation situations, especially for those who have Multiroom boxes (2 or more Astro boxes) at home.
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Don't forget: Signal conflict can occur when receiving channels from either low or high Ku band frequency range at the same time, with a cable splitter on a Universal LNB. Therefore, using DCSS LNB can avoid this problem.
Scenarios above applies for individual Astro satellite dish installations only (e.g. Astro dish install at your balcony, rooftop,...)
I believe for those who stay in apartment/condos/buildings that uses centralised dish, most likely you still won't be able to receive UHD channels on your Ultra Box even when you change the LNB Setup settings to "Universal".
So, it's either you continue persuade your building management to upgrade to DCSS LNB system, or install own Astro dish at the balcony (if your building management allows), or you'll just have to opt for Ultra Box Plug & Play instead.
This post has been edited by joshhd: Dec 10 2022, 11:06 PM