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Sunshine Empire
Sunshine Empire
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May 15 2007, 09:11 AM, updated 19y ago
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Anyone heard of it be4?
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May 15 2007, 09:34 AM
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my friend join.....
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May 15 2007, 09:39 AM
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895 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: -- Alor Star, Kedah -- -- Gelang Patah, Johor -- |
my friend joins too... still receiving money every month
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May 15 2007, 11:05 AM
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sounds like another MLM
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May 15 2007, 12:22 PM
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May 15 2007, 01:09 PM
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From the ah beng name, its already a good bet to be a MLM company
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May 15 2007, 04:45 PM
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hahaha. why those ppl like to post their BLACKLISTED MLM here?
Please, ppl in LY is not as stupid as you all. Please get out from LY. Post some where else. go recruiter your member in the PASAR PAGI / PASAR MALAM. |
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May 16 2007, 10:59 PM
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m just asking ur opinions... m not trying to promote anything.. cause my cousin approached me and m thinking whther this is a goof business opportunity.. any people joined this company mind to share?
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May 17 2007, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 15 2007, 12:22 PM) I'm just wonder, why under blacklist from SC, but office is still operating at Malaysia? Because I work in that building, the office is just locates at the ground floor. |
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May 17 2007, 07:44 PM
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Hi there,
I have joined sunshine empire. I would like to clarify something here since nobody has. Listed does not mean blacklisted. It was due to some people promoting it as an investment which is illegal under the law. The actual fact is the company has been cleared by SC when the SC staffs went to the office few months back and found nothing wrong (dont believe you can call them directly to find out yourself), just because someone complaint to the SC, SC have to put it up there as a precaution. If you think about it, if SC found sunshine empire to be illegal, it would have shut down the office, freeze the bank account and company directors will be arrested immediately. BTW, tomorrow 18th May 2007, the international president, Mr. James Phang will be in KL office tomorrow evening to give us training. If you guys would like to meet him in person, feel free to do so. If you want to meet up to better understand what is going on feel free to contact me, PM or email. View my blog at www.mysunshine-empire.blogspot.com Hope it helps to explain to you guys. Have a nice day. This post has been edited by hengmun: May 17 2007, 07:45 PM |
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May 17 2007, 07:49 PM
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omg, is that versace logo?
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May 17 2007, 08:14 PM
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i think tht is the sunshine empire logo.. anyway,how long had u joined the company?
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May 17 2007, 08:18 PM
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It is Empire Group Alliance logo. Taken recently in Singapore office during a tour there. Sunshine Empire logo is quite similar, only the outer ring is different.
Joined since Jan07 This post has been edited by hengmun: May 17 2007, 08:19 PM |
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May 18 2007, 09:36 AM
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You guys may want to check out what their singaporean counterpart are talking about this company and its director, James Phang
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=forum_display&forum_id=14 |
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May 18 2007, 11:00 AM
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You may want to check out the real thing yourself rather listen to hearsay, people are hidden behind the computer with a nick can say anything they want. Why don't you bring this allegations to James Phang today? He will be in office. I bet you won't be bothered and yet lobby hearsay in other forums. I am not sure what is your agenda.
QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 18 2007, 09:36 AM) You guys may want to check out what their singaporean counterpart are talking about this company and its director, James Phang http://www.sgforums.com/?action=forum_display&forum_id=14 |
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May 18 2007, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(hengmun @ May 18 2007, 11:00 AM) You may want to check out the real thing yourself rather listen to hearsay, people are hidden behind the computer with a nick can say anything they want. Why don't you bring this allegations to James Phang today? He will be in office. I bet you won't be bothered and yet lobby hearsay in other forums. I am not sure what is your agenda. If the company is ethical, why did Securities Commission put it on an alert list? If you think that they have erred, why don't you call SC and ask them to remove the company from the list? |
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May 19 2007, 12:27 AM
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SC put it on the list because some people promoted it as an investment scheme, but if you were to really find out about Sunshine Empire, you will understand why people have misconception about it. They want the fastest and simplest way to promote it. The company has issued warning against this practices.
Lampe Berger was on the list once, now its taken out, LB we know is MLM, why was on the list? Because LB members was promoting it as investment. Stupid isn't it? Wanna follow the SC list and think its accurate? And yet they keep amending it? Its not final or a death sentence to the company. Well if you think properly, when you do business, any business, u need capital right, u need to invest not only money, but time and effort to sustain a business. Can I put people doing business into SC alert list because they are "investing" money into their own business? Any return can guarantee with this investment? No right? If you think so highly of SC, and assuming SC put Sunshine Empire on the list because they found the company is not ethical and operating against the law, I don't see how Sunshine Empire office at KUB.com (Jln Yap Kwan Seng) can still have its doors open for business as usual..funny isn't it? I just came back from there. You can say its a matter of time only but I can let you know SC officers already did come to the office and found nothing against Sunshine Empire. Believe it or not. Do you know SC have the powers to freeze everything IF they can proof beyond doubt Sunshine Empire is unethical as claimed by you. Don't assume the real situation by just looking at the book cover. Read the book and understand, only make your conclusions, boy. It is not my job to call and inform SC to remove it, the management should be doing it but if u have nothing to fear why u bother about little misunderstanding, u only fear when you have done something wrong and do whatever you can to cover your illegal scheme. Why dont you call SC to close Sunshine Empire instead if you are so into SC...pls dont take use SC tactics, out dated already. QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 18 2007, 03:00 PM) |
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May 23 2007, 03:54 AM
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totally agree with hengmun. dun just listen to ppl. my friend also working in sunshine empire and he himself also got join. he really receive money every month till now.
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May 23 2007, 01:56 PM
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May 23 2007, 09:49 PM
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Sound like RPG games to me. But I think better dun join some fishy company. A lot of of MLM company also try to use new way to recruit people coz we all now know what is their tactic. Now preaching healthy lifestyle. Preach so many stuff....haiz...
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May 25 2007, 03:20 PM
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Ignorant people are those who refuse to find out about something in total understanding & truth first BUT yet believe what they feel is true.
To substantiate your claim that sunshine empire is a fishy company, show us what you all have got on sunshine empire that is fishy? You need to have hard incriminating evidence against sunshine empire only then you can say its fishy. If not then keep your baseless comments to yourself else u will be making a joke on yourself. I am not fighting all the -ve comments you raised, but just reminding that you should find out the facts first before u claim it to be fishy just because u FEEL that it is. I have nothing against your opinions but do find out first before u make a claim like this. |
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May 25 2007, 07:08 PM
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Please could you tell us what exactly is the business Sunshine Empire is doing?
I'm sure you understand that a many people are instantly cautious of the thousands of new fangled schemes (sadly most turn out to be cleverly disguised pyramid investment schemes run by shucksters). Maybe your case is different, if so, then enlighten us. I'm sure if all the stuff is above board you wont have an issue with that, right? Good chance to score yourself a couple of points on behalf of the company. The signature link turned out to be a 404. This post has been edited by limsk: May 25 2007, 07:20 PM |
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May 25 2007, 08:44 PM
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You can come out with whatever you like to say..I am not stopping you. But I can also have my say, so I WILL say, be responsible with your words or comments on any subject that you may want to discuss.
I am not interested in debating competition here with you just because u like it. Good luck to your mentality. My reply on SC issue has been answered, I shall not repeat myself just because u want to bring it up again. Besides you have no credibility to accuse anyone or any company as fishy just because you FEEL it is. Have a nice day. QUOTE(fookiatchong @ May 25 2007, 06:24 PM) tell you what.. I say what I feel.. I don't need to find out because you know what? I'M NOT INTERESTED.. i just came in, thought that the name is funny for a company.. then read all you guys post and I come out with this conclusion.. its fishy. its all my opinion.. so sue me.. and please I don't need to give you evidence or anything because ITS MY DAMN FEELING!! and its MY DAMN OPINION.. anything against that? well.. I guess you are fishy after all. Added on May 25, 2007, 6:25 pmoh.. I'm enjoying the tongue lashing if you wanna know.. just glad that somebody are making it a big mess out of NOTHING!! and your statement about ignorant people.. well.. its just bull shit I tell you.. Added on May 25, 2007, 6:51 pmand while you're at it.. do visit this site http://www.sc.com.my/ENG/HTML/licensing/in...Alert_list.html Added on May 25, 2007, 8:46 pmGo to www.mysunshine-empire.blogspot.com and you can get all your information there, all explaining has been done there. QUOTE(limsk @ May 25 2007, 07:08 PM) Please could you tell us what exactly is the business Sunshine Empire is doing? This post has been edited by hengmun: May 25 2007, 08:46 PMI'm sure you understand that a many people are instantly cautious of the thousands of new fangled schemes (sadly most turn out to be cleverly disguised pyramid investment schemes run by shucksters). Maybe your case is different, if so, then enlighten us. I'm sure if all the stuff is above board you wont have an issue with that, right? Good chance to score yourself a couple of points on behalf of the company. The signature link turned out to be a 404. |
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May 26 2007, 12:38 AM
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Do you comprehend that I have replied to the SC issue already in this thread? Or you are just plain stupid to comprehend it? Pls ask your primary school teacher to teach u how to spell too.
Good luck boy QUOTE(fookiatchong @ May 25 2007, 10:09 PM) |
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May 26 2007, 09:19 AM
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Very well, one so called smart spanish chinese boy is continuing blowing hot air
QUOTE(fookiatchong @ May 26 2007, 12:43 AM) haha.. boy.. This post has been edited by hengmun: May 26 2007, 10:20 AMI don't blame you since you don't understand spanish... but do visit here http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=comprende and for someone who speak sms-lingo, you have no right to correct my language. the SC issue, is just beating around the bush.. like what I say early in the first post.. the more one explains and clarify, the more fishy it sounds.. now i repeat.. comprende? haha |
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May 28 2007, 01:04 PM
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www.mysunshine-empire.blogspot.com
That address is correct? HTTP 404 - File not found |
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May 28 2007, 07:00 PM
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May 28 2007, 07:12 PM
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Please enlighten us why we can't just directly invest in emcom rather than put money in a shell company which inturn invest in emcom...
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May 28 2007, 09:36 PM
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Sunshine empire is not a shell company, it is a MLM company.
I would rather explain to you on MSN rather than here. Hope you understand. QUOTE(jessril @ May 28 2007, 07:12 PM) |
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May 28 2007, 10:35 PM
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I go to your blog. All the features of your company point to MLM. You're caught red handed. The most obvious feature that scream your company is MLM is the way you promote your company.
Surprise!!!! My SE payout is here!!!!! This morning, Sunshine Empire is especially good for me...... Just checked my bank account and viola! I see $$$$$$$$, nothing beats getting paid consistently every month, right? http://mysunshine-empire.blogspot.com/2007...ut-is-here.html You know, this is the lamest thing I've heard from MLM company. Everytime the people from MLM talk to me, I'll sure hear this kind of crap. Come on. Be creative. Showing me you get money does not mean anything. I can ask someone to send me money. Don't post something this lame. Conclusion:- Sunshine Empire is a MLM company. |
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May 29 2007, 12:26 AM
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Yes, it is a MLM company, I never denied it was. Not sure what you are trying to bring up? Care to explain?
I never talk to you about this, u went to my blog yourself, no one asked you to go. If you are not interested then so be it, I dont have to call someone lame just because you dont agree the way I put it. You have your way, I have mine, this is life, like it or not, i accept your opinion and respect it, i hope you return the favor as well. I dont need to prove anything to you. Believe it or not. QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 28 2007, 10:35 PM) I go to your blog. All the features of your company point to MLM. You're caught red handed. The most obvious feature that scream your company is MLM is the way you promote your company. Surprise!!!! My SE payout is here!!!!! This morning, Sunshine Empire is especially good for me...... Just checked my bank account and viola! I see $$$$$$$$, nothing beats getting paid consistently every month, right? http://mysunshine-empire.blogspot.com/2007...ut-is-here.html You know, this is the lamest thing I've heard from MLM company. Everytime the people from MLM talk to me, I'll sure hear this kind of crap. Come on. Be creative. Showing me you get money does not mean anything. I can ask someone to send me money. Don't post something this lame. Conclusion:- Sunshine Empire is a MLM company. |
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Jun 1 2007, 02:19 AM
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It does not matter, so long it works for me and many of those who believe. I dont envy where and what you are now.
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Jun 1 2007, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(fookiatchong @ May 29 2007, 12:58 AM) well.. not every MLM company is a scam.. MLM does not equal to a company that cheats people money.. its just that the way how a company market their products/hope that makes the company a MLM scam. I do agree that its lame to post something so positive, showing that the company is in tip top condition and ultimately the whole idea is working. Only noobie will get hooked with that kind of show off. |
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Jun 1 2007, 08:35 AM
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it's my turn now,heng mun.
how much to join member?how much to join member?Sell what product?How you sell product? http://www.emallempire.com/index.php?cPath...32cbffbe770595c looks like pasar malam china brand here read this and see this Super Torchlight E-point is ur company 1 E-point = rm 3.70 1 M-point = rm 3.70 the super torch light cost rm 103.60 for 28 e-points and cost rm 2968 for 800 M-point this torch light is free when i buy my rm 100 engine oil and cost less than Rm 10 studio traffic did pay its member everyone till it went bangkrupt... compare to LB...i buy LB more than this sunshine empire altho im anti-LB. This sunshine company comfirm is another MLM ,member buy and sell member stuff those E point and M point is just a product to abuse the government loophole to prevent it looks like a 100% pyramid scheme... ignorant is bliss when u keep earning money from it. I advice u to do tat as side income only. |
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Jun 1 2007, 11:44 AM
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Its okay boys, this is a free country right? I can do what I want so long it is not against the law.
I am also thought to respect other people's opinions, so I will not dispute nor want to start a debate nor defending if this is what I am doing full time or part time. It is my life and I do what I want. You can do what you want. Agree?? I never promote it day in day out, just because I have a blog that I update quite frequently, I am only interested to talk to those who wants to know more. Share with them what I have experienced with Sunshine Empire aka a MLM company. Maybe it will improve their lifestyle and achieve their dreams, who knows. This can go on and on without any ending, I will leave this message until someone is interested to know more, only I will come out to help them understand. Have fun debating guys. Good luck. |
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Jun 2 2007, 05:11 PM
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These sunshine empire is a waiting time bomb dear fellows. The main reason of this is mainly after I went to the office and follow their program and introduction, there are a few questions they cannot answer.
1. Why the contract agreement does not have reference number, uses photocopy A4 paper, terms and condition of contract only mentioned and support the company and none for buyers but why the company did NOT stamp or signed each agreement ??? 2. Where are the terms and condition that support or right? None. Why only 1 party sign contract agreement (us) so how can you claim this agreement when 1 party? 3. They company could close and declare bankrupt and we have no rights to claim anything worst if SC also dont support us then how? 4. If its a profit making machine in this superspeed then why not just grab IPO??? or atleast take loan from international finance banking and pay lower interest then paying to the people at super high interest? There many points they cannot answer my dear friends so becareful take your risk okay cause if they closed down out of sudden (ie earth quake destroy their facilities) you cannot take into court because there are no AGREEMENT, sign by both parties, stamped and honoured by legal. I conclude this with as A Stupid Risk Taker Investor of the Year 2007. TQ |
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Jun 2 2007, 05:22 PM
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If you even failed to explain properly and keep beating around the bush, it's rather clear what this all says.
To everyone else, do take note that this is a black listed company in SC, so proceed at your own risk. Topic closed. |
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