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firestater
post May 14 2007, 07:45 PM, updated 19y ago

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can some explain to me why MOD closed this topic.
[WTS] NEW RELEASE O3 818 Mobile Phone - Open by "hokano"

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post May 14 2007, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(firestater @ May 14 2007, 07:45 PM)
can some explain to me why MOD closed this topic.
[WTS] NEW RELEASE O3 818 Mobile Phone - Open by "hokano"
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try linking the closed topic here so people can refer and might tell you what is wrong
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post May 14 2007, 08:28 PM

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din see any wts thread from ts also ... kena delete totally liao ?
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post May 14 2007, 08:52 PM

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see topic #6 http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ighlite=release

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...6390&hl=release

This post has been edited by firestater: May 14 2007, 08:53 PM
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post May 14 2007, 09:01 PM

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post May 14 2007, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Jonyguy @ May 14 2007, 09:01 PM)
please guide me, i can find any clue.
is it consider under imitation?

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QUOTE(firestater @ May 14 2007, 09:11 PM)
please guide me, i can find any clue.
is it consider under imitation?
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Cant be sure because we can't see the thread
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post May 15 2007, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(firestater @ May 14 2007, 07:45 PM)
can some explain to me why MOD closed this topic.
[WTS] NEW RELEASE O3 818 Mobile Phone - Open by "hokano"
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The best way is create a thread at http://forum.lowyat.net/MainSiteForumFeedbackandHelpdesk and discuss about this matter.
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post May 15 2007, 05:21 AM

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Possibly imitation set. And that is not allowed in LYN.

Apart of that, the set is not warranted or distributed by any allowed distributor in Malaysia. Hence can be considered as Waterset. And waterset is not allowed in LYN too.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 15 2007, 05:21 AM)
Possibly imitation set. And that is not allowed in LYN.

Apart of that, the set is not warranted or distributed by any allowed distributor in Malaysia. Hence can be considered as Waterset. And waterset is not allowed in LYN too.
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just asking, if i went on vacation to China and purchased that type of handphone for personal used. After that if i wanna sell that particular handphone, then which categories that my handphone will be in. Underwater or over the water.

i dont think it's imitation, imitation to what brand?
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QUOTE(firestater @ May 15 2007, 07:12 AM)
just asking, if i went on vacation to China and purchased that type of handphone for personal used. After that if i wanna sell that particular handphone, then which categories that my handphone will be in. Underwater or over the water.

i dont think it's imitation, imitation to what brand?
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Waterset. Still considered as underwater set although it is second hand, brought in under personal effects (i.e. not for commercial sale)

Although it is not directly a imitation item, but the brand alone O3 is obviously having the intention of copying O2.

Just my opinion though.
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post May 15 2007, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 15 2007, 07:20 AM)
Waterset. Still considered as underwater set although it is second hand, brought in under personal effects (i.e. not for commercial sale)

Although it is not directly a imitation item, but the brand alone O3 is obviously having the intention of copying O2.

Just my opinion though.
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i dont think having the name O3 is a valid reason to delete the sales.. there are a few china branded product having same or almost same name as original..
besides, waterset only if the set is not warrantied.. if it is warrantied, the phone is consider AP set doh.gif u should noe better than i do..

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 15 2007, 10:49 PM)
i dont think having the name O3 is a valid reason to delete the sales.. there are a few china branded product having same or almost same name as original..
besides, waterset only if the set is not warrantied.. if it is warrantied, the phone is consider AP set doh.gif u should noe better than i do..
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I disagree with you, AP Sets comes with a SIRIM sticker and is warrantied by local companies.

Waterset = handsets without SIRIM and local warranty, even if it has local warranty and does not have a SIRIM is considered a waterset.
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 15 2007, 10:49 PM)
i dont think having the name O3 is a valid reason to delete the sales.. there are a few china branded product having same or almost same name as original..
besides, waterset only if the set is not warrantied.. if it is warrantied, the phone is consider AP set doh.gif u should noe better than i do..
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You seem to be the one who doesn't understand the term Approved Permit
As stated above, AP sets are fully legal brought in through customs and not simply identified by the warranty

I could bring in 1000 units of underwater HP and give them 1 year of KilJim's warranty plan but that doesn't make it legal
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 15 2007, 10:49 PM)
i dont think having the name O3 is a valid reason to delete the sales.. there are a few china branded product having same or almost same name as original..
besides, waterset only if the set is not warrantied.. if it is warrantied, the phone is consider AP set doh.gif u should noe better than i do..
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how about some brand in car accessories forum ? boschid ... is that borsh or what ?

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post May 16 2007, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(Rlhh @ May 15 2007, 11:07 PM)
I disagree with you, AP Sets comes with a SIRIM sticker and is warrantied by local companies.

Waterset = handsets without SIRIM and local warranty, even if it has local warranty and does not have a SIRIM is considered a waterset.
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so, u r saying all the phones from oversea consider waterset lah?
i saw a few thread selling uk set or whatever set.. go ahead and close the thread smile.gif

QUOTE(KilJim @ May 16 2007, 12:39 AM)
You seem to be the one who doesn't understand the term Approved Permit
As stated above, AP sets are fully legal brought in through customs and not simply identified by the warranty

I could bring in 1000 units of underwater HP and give them 1 year of KilJim's warranty plan but that doesn't make it legal
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like it or not, not all ap set are bought in legally smile.gif
sirim sticker can be printed easily as there is no certain security in the sticker smile.gif

QUOTE(Bridgestone @ May 16 2007, 12:51 AM)
how about some brand in car accessories forum ? boschid ... is that borsh or what ?
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yeah, go ahead and close the thread
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 16 2007, 03:45 AM)
so, u r saying all the phones from oversea consider waterset lah?
i saw a few thread selling uk set or whatever set.. go ahead and close the thread smile.gif

like it or not, not all ap set are bought in legally smile.gif

sirim sticker can be printed easily as there is no certain security in the sticker smile.gif
yeah, go ahead and close the thread
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1st: If you see waterset is advertised in LYN, dont hesitate to click on the 'REPORT' button. We are not computer that can scan through every threads (hundreds made daily). And most of the time, it is member that bring us to such issue by using the 'Report' function.

2ndly: You are right that not all ap set it brought in legally, but that is out of our control. However if some set is brought into here illegally (or violating rules set in the board), and we do have the control here, and we will do the best to control it.

3rd: There is no security certainty in SIRIM sticker etc, in real world, in real market, but does that mean we can allow safety uncertified item in LYN too, where we can control?

4th: You really need to revise your posting manner. I failed to note your sarcasm.

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 15 2007, 10:49 PM)
i dont think having the name O3 is a valid reason to delete the sales.. there are a few china branded product having same or almost same name as original..
besides, waterset only if the set is not warrantied.. if it is warrantied, the phone is consider AP set doh.gif u should noe better than i do..
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The reason of the thread being closed is not because of the item is imitation (though reasonably doubt or consist intention of imitating), but considering it is waterset too. Beyond reasonable doubt and waterset give us enough reasons to doubt the validity of such sales in LYN.


Added on May 16, 2007, 5:54 am
QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 15 2007, 12:06 AM)
The best way is create a thread at http://forum.lowyat.net/MainSiteForumFeedbackandHelpdesk and discuss about this matter.
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This is a right place for such topic too. As this section does not deal as dispute resolution centre only but also tradezone helpdesk.

This post has been edited by youngkies: May 16 2007, 06:02 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 16 2007, 05:42 AM)
1st: If you see waterset is advertised in LYN, dont hesitate to click on the 'REPORT' button. We are not computer that can scan through every threads (hundreds made daily). And most of the time, it is member that bring us to such issue by using the 'Report' function.

2ndly: You are right that not all ap set it brought in legally, but that is out of our control. However if some set is brought into here illegally (or violating rules set in the board), and we do have the control here, and we will do the best to control it.

3rd: There is no security certainty in SIRIM sticker etc, in real world, in real market, but does that mean we can allow safety uncertified item in LYN too, where we can control?

4th: You really need to revise your posting manner. I failed to note your sarcasm.
The reason of the thread being closed is not because of the item is imitation (though reasonably doubt or consist intention of imitating), but considering it is waterset too. Beyond reasonable doubt and waterset give us enough reasons to doubt the validity of such sales in LYN.


Added on May 16, 2007, 5:54 am

This is a right place for such topic too. As this section does not deal as dispute resolution centre only but also tradezone helpdesk.
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ops, mod replied.. afaik, mod is the boss here.. okay then, logging out
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 16 2007, 01:03 PM)
ops, mod replied.. afaik, mod is the boss here.. okay then, logging out
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Yes exactly, if you reply insensibly and not reasonably, or cant accept ppl correcting/comment on your post, refrain from posting in the first place.
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are this also consider underwater http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/443113/+0&#entry11657281

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