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6UE5T
post May 16 2019, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Beogatts @ May 16 2019, 01:56 PM)
currently using v12e2 for 44k km now.
quiet, grip (wet & dry), handling = still ok

only negative side is.. Side tred worn out too fast.. 44k km 95% botak already.
middle thread still thick.

overall, i think my style of driving ( speeding+cornering ) only give 48k km by this donuts.

fleva i neva used..
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If you like to corner fast, the outer side blocks tread will always wear out faster because you're putting a lot of cornering load on them. Mine also like that no matter what tires I use, very often also with chipping like in case of PS3/4 and F1D5. You can try to compensate by using a bit higher tire pressure.
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post May 17 2019, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ May 15 2019, 02:37 PM)
Been quite a while since the last I updated this.

I've recently purchase another round of v12e2 for another vehicle. To my surprise, it wasn't as quiet as my first purchase in 2018. Also, it seems it's quite difficult to find tyre manufactured in this year 2019. Most of the stockist are giving 2018 or even worst 2017.

Anyway, I manage to get this year's tyres ie 2019. However, it's kinda more noisier than the first I remembered. Of course it may not be a fair comparison as I was using Primacy 3ST in this vehicle before I changed it to v12.

Anyhow, I'll need to monitor it further. Maybe it needs a little run in. Who knows...
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Tyre newer not necessarily better you should know that.. 2018 tires is good as the compound has stable make it more durable
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post May 17 2019, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(hafiez @ May 15 2019, 08:31 PM)
u just getting older laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
Tyre newer not necessarily better you should know that.. 2018 tires is good as the compound has stable make it more durable
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It’s the same v12evo2 tyres. Just that one was manufactured in 2018 and the other is 2019. Anyway, too soon to say. Maybe my ears just got hyper sensitive. Who knows..
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post May 18 2019, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
Tyre newer not necessarily better you should know that.. 2018 tires is good as the compound has stable make it more durable
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I don't get this statement. Shouldn't you get new fresh tires instead of last year's manufacture?
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post May 18 2019, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 18 2019, 03:26 PM)
I don't get this statement. Shouldn't you get new fresh tires instead of last year's manufacture?
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Myth: "This tyre old already, I give you 'new' one. Performance better."

Bridgestone says:
"Tyres with an earlier date of manufacture will perform the same as 'fresher' ones as long as they have been stored properly and are undamaged.

Sources: https://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=328

You should hear before that #TyresAreNotBananas by Michelin, Malaysian always assume that newer tires are better and even just last year manufacture tyres are not good.. Tyres don't work that way and this is Malaysian mentality
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post May 18 2019, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 16 2019, 02:03 PM)
If you like to corner fast, the outer side blocks tread will always wear out faster because you're putting a lot of cornering load on them. Mine also like that no matter what tires I use, very often also with chipping like in case of PS3/4 and F1D5. You can try to compensate by using a bit higher tire pressure.
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Now I know why my tyres wear out faster on the outer side block. Tyre shop guy say alignment problem, but after I told him I previously did alignment at his shop he said the road I travel was rough. 🤔
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post May 18 2019, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(zy93 @ May 18 2019, 06:20 PM)
Now I know why my tyres wear out faster on the outer side block. Tyre shop guy say alignment problem, but after I told him I previously did alignment at his shop he said the road I travel was rough. 🤔
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Hahaha many of them are clueless actually.
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post May 18 2019, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 18 2019, 05:50 PM)
Myth: "This tyre old already, I give you 'new' one. Performance better."

Bridgestone says:
"Tyres with an earlier date of manufacture will perform the same as 'fresher' ones as long as they have been stored properly and are undamaged.

Sources: https://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=328

You should hear before that #TyresAreNotBananas by Michelin, Malaysian always assume that newer tires are better and even just last year manufacture tyres are not good.. Tyres don't work that way and this is Malaysian mentality
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So you are saying if given you the choice of 2018 and 2019 manufacture tires, you’ll take 2018?
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post May 18 2019, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 18 2019, 05:50 PM)
You should hear before that #TyresAreNotBananas by Michelin, Malaysian always assume that newer tires are better and even just last year manufacture tyres are not good.. Tyres don't work that way and this is Malaysian mentality
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Technically, what you say is true.

But due to our weather and the mentality of business owners, i don't think the tyre shops really store it properly. I've seen shops where they throw tyres from upper floors down to technicians on the lower floor (employee safety is one thing, tyre manufacturers state to never do this), storing tyres outside, unknown storage locations, etc.

The best bet is newer is better to be on the safe side.
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post May 19 2019, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 18 2019, 09:54 PM)
So you are saying if given you the choice of 2018 and 2019 manufacture tires, you’ll take 2018?
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Yep, I always do

QUOTE(wkc5657 @ May 18 2019, 11:13 PM)
Technically, what you say is true.

But due to our weather and the mentality of business owners, i don't think the tyre shops really store it properly. I've seen shops where they throw tyres from upper floors down to technicians on the lower floor (employee safety is one thing, tyre manufacturers state to never do this), storing tyres outside, unknown storage locations, etc.

The best bet is newer is better to be on the safe side.
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Actually, you can't blame the mentality of the business owner, it all started off from the customer who always wants newer tyres then making owner unable to sell older tires hence always resulting them asking for newer tires from distributor/manufacturer. The cycle is like that, and I guess 95% of Malaysian have this problem not knowing the myth even manufacturer always create awareness. Malaysian just like to hear an opinion from their friends & family rather than the seller.
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post May 21 2019, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ May 19 2019, 03:37 AM)
Yep, I always do
Actually, you can't blame the mentality of the business owner, it all started off from the customer who always wants newer tyres then making owner unable to sell older tires hence always resulting them asking for newer tires from distributor/manufacturer. The cycle is like that, and I guess 95% of Malaysian have this problem not knowing the myth even manufacturer always create awareness. Malaysian just like to hear an opinion from their friends & family rather than the seller.
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Not to sound sarcastic but it's good to know you'll be taking the stocks which most Malaysians don't prefer.
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post May 21 2019, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 21 2019, 01:08 PM)
Not to sound sarcastic but it's good to know you'll be taking the stocks which most Malaysians don't prefer.
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What I can say is Malaysian nvr learns even research has been done proven and educated by the tyre manufacturer 🤦🏻‍♂️

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post May 24 2019, 02:12 AM

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Between a 2018 and 2019 tyre, the difference can be in the selling price, tyre shop give slightly more discount for 2018/manu tyre because of perceived older tyre but there's nothing wrong with tyre in between 3 years of manufactured date...if deep pocket then go for new minted tyre, for bargain hunters 2017 tyres with good price is not a crime, and degradation is minimal to impact the integrity of the tyre
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post Aug 27 2019, 10:10 PM

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anyone know which shop that provide good price for V12evo2 for 195/50/r16 with free balancing and alignment? i plan change my michelin xm2 to try this out.. what is the total mileage this v12evo2 can do? 40k before next tyre change?
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post Aug 27 2019, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 27 2019, 10:10 PM)
anyone know which shop that provide good price for V12evo2 for 195/50/r16 with free balancing and alignment? i plan change my michelin xm2 to try this out.. what is the total mileage this v12evo2 can do? 40k before next tyre change?
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V12E2 doesn't have your size.
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post Aug 27 2019, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 27 2019, 10:43 PM)
V12E2 doesn't have your size.
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damn,.... so sad want to try this tyre out so badly..so less rim 16 size..
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post Aug 28 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 27 2019, 11:38 PM)
damn,.... so sad want to try this tyre out so badly..so less rim 16 size..
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You can try 205/45/16 if you dont mind slightly undersize.. 🙂
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post Aug 28 2019, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ Aug 28 2019, 12:03 AM)
You can try 205/45/16 if you dont mind slightly undersize.. 🙂
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i wont try 45 as it will be too bumpy and not comfort ride... slim depth tyre for more acceleration and 205 width not that optimum.
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post Aug 29 2019, 01:03 AM

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Any sifu here know the pros/cons for v12e2 vs ps4 for 215/45/17. Currently need to replace all 4 of my conti mc5. V12e2 seems like everyone's favorite over here, definitely would like to try it out. Only thing is mostly out of stock, supplier only quoted me the hankook v2 at rm220. The ps4 is at rm400. Other tyre prices are Yoko advan v701 rm285 and re003 rm330.
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post Aug 30 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(RoTH86 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:03 AM)
Any sifu here know the pros/cons for v12e2 vs ps4 for 215/45/17. Currently need to replace all 4 of my conti mc5. V12e2 seems like everyone's favorite over here, definitely would like to try it out. Only thing is mostly out of stock, supplier only quoted me the hankook v2 at rm220. The ps4 is at rm400. Other tyre prices are Yoko advan v701 rm285 and re003 rm330.
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I'm currently using V12Evo2 for 215/45/R17. Satisfied with dry and wet performance with price of rm290 per pc. This tyre side wall is soft, so I pumped 36psi for all. Tyre noise is acceptable for me.

Haven't had a chance to use PS4. Performance sure way much better and more expensive than V12Evo2.


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