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 Modenas Dominar 400, cheapest 400cc bike

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lowpro
post May 2 2019, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 29 2019, 04:31 PM)
Huhu. Ok what single cylinder? Torque really nice. Just the vibration is emmm... Nutt shaker. Hahaha
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Yup, the Dominar is a bit of a nut shaker but it is oklah if you're comfortable with it biggrin.gif But I really wonder what is Bajaj's plan for this bike. It handles pretty well and I believe that the bike has so much potential. They could plonk the 2-cylinder Ninja 400 engine into the Dominar if Kawasaki allows it. Kawasaki sells the Dominar 400 as a Kawasaki in Philippines but it is strangely not on the Kawasaki PH website. It was introduced in 2018 so I think the news is still pretty recent: https://www.zigwheels.ph/new-motorcycles/ka...aki/dominar-400

I hope that Bajaj develops the Dominar 400 into something that can fulfill it's potential.

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post May 7 2019, 10:05 AM

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Wonder if Bajaj will develop a full fairing version of the Dominar...will be an interesting addition. Ah, if they can only use the sweet 1-cylinder engine of the RC390, it will make the Dominar 400 so much more fun
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post May 14 2019, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 14 2019, 04:48 PM)
Rc390 same engine as 390 duke

The ktm 390s has a lot of problem. Bajaj learn the lesson here. So of course they do not want dominar have the same as their sisters. Let dominar less agressive for longevity.

And i dont think bajaj would put fairing. If you watch tamil/hindustan movie, you will see their bikes prefer naked than fairing. Unless bajaj decided to do it for their outside market

By the way, how's your dominar? Ok or not?
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Thinking of selling it. It is nice as a fun bike but...can be so much nicer. Mine is blue. Most people would have bought the red
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post May 15 2019, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 14 2019, 08:58 PM)
Wah. Sudah mau jual meh?

I think i know why. You want more power kan?
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Yup...I will just ride my 600 for now. The Dominar is a decent bike for the price but it can be much better. Hope that the next evolution will be more universal in execution instead of just focusing on the Indian market for its formula
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post May 15 2019, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(TanJy1814 @ May 14 2019, 11:17 PM)
Why? Haha more nicer in what aspect?
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How it can be improved:

1) Add one more cylinder! This will give it better performance.
2) Provide an option for a half fairing like XJ6N and XJ6 Diversion. No need full fairing like XJ6 Diversion F. The half fairing gives better wind protection over longer rides.
3) Reduce the vibration coming through the seat. Maybe a second cylinder can solve this... hmm.gif

Just my 2 sen worth on how Bajaj can evolve the Dominar in future

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post May 15 2019, 11:29 AM

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Honestly speaking, if your expectations aren't too much, it REALLY IS A GOOD BIKE. It performs as well as it's designers intended it to. Getting from A to B with minimum fuss and in decent manner as it handles quite well. Daily use is good too but try not to over tax the engine for extended time over long distances. Gotta understand that it is only a single cylinder and should be kept at a reasonable cruising speed. It can go the distance. Just don't try to keep up with your friends on other more powerful bikes
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post May 15 2019, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 15 2019, 12:40 PM)
indeed.

but since bajaj is not like those big brand. they can only use what they have and improve. ( need huge money to spend for new engine RnD)
in this case. ktm 390 engine. ( since they also manufacture this engine for ktm)
since its cheap to make, and 1 single cylinder actually just hit the purpose of this bike made for. touring and daily use.
cheaper price selling with cheaper maintenance.

if using those 2 engine that u said, need RnD or source from other manufacturer with huge cost, then they cant keep produce cheap bike anymore. if selling price same with other big brand, hard for them to compete anymore.
like z400, the price more than double of D400.
2 cylinder vs 1.

im also waiting to buy this bike, but mybe waiting for 2019 version to come here. since im not urgent.
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Yup, what you said is very true...unless they can get a 2-cylinder engine from their partner Kawasaki. But then they might need to pay royalty for the 2-cylinder as well... might not be strong enough to make a business case though... ah well, can always have hope that maybe someday it might happen biggrin.gif
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post Jun 30 2020, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 3 2020, 09:37 AM)
I doubt they will bring the new Dominar, due to the latest cooperation with Kawasaki.. they might substitute it entirely with Ninja 250 since it has more market appeal due to B2 Lesen compliant.

Nothing new for Rojak knockdown assembly Company Modenas..

SYM - Kymco - Kawasaki - BAJAJ - China Bike (those new Kriss)
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Dominar is a nice looking bike with an underwhelming engine. Needs at least a twin to do justice to its sporty looks. 400cc is good but just too underpowered and a single at that too... doh.gif
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post Jul 1 2020, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 30 2020, 10:51 AM)
because its design for touring, save fuel and maintenance.
its not sports bike. doh.gif
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Ya, for 'hyper riding'...a term Bajaj coined because they can't position it for anything else. biggrin.gif But if it is taken for just that, then I guess it would be good enough...

BUT, IMHO, it should not have to use the excuse of 'touring, save fuel and maintenance' just because it is overall underwhelming. It should have respectable performance and not let kapchais embarrass it.
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post Jul 1 2020, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 30 2020, 11:39 AM)
Bajaj learn from overtuning KTM duke 390 engine which the 1st gen always giving problem.. also to compensate the dirty and low quality fuel sold in the sub continent.
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IMHO, they should learn and progress. Seems like they learnt and took the regress route instead to save themselves the trouble. But for santai riders, it is good enough I guess. Maybe I expected so much more from it. To me personally, I was disappointed because it looked so good but didn't hv the oomph to match the super looks.
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post Jul 1 2020, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jul 1 2020, 09:43 AM)
Broder.. Road in India (where most of the R&D happened) 120 km/h is consider a high speed already...
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Ya lah. Hahahahaha! Haizzz, they should tap on their partner Modenas here to suss out what Malaysians want. I think that if they actually gave it a bit more respectable performance, it would have sold more. Building a 400 just for santai doesn't make sense as perception is that it should at least not let kapchai and some 250 whack it lah. Malu and no face. If like that, the smaller Pulsar 200 is good enough already. At least if kena whack by kapchai and other 250, can still find a good excuse. For a 400...I dunno where to hide my face! biggrin.gif That's why I don't own it anymore ya whistling.gif
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post Jul 1 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jul 1 2020, 10:56 AM)
its because malaysian rider mentality. want fast bike only.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
what they want: fast bike, more than 1 cylinder,  cheap price, cheap maintenance, no need B full licence, and known branded bike. ( later friend said u buy local/stupid brand, u dont know where to hide ur face, better buy y15)

if u want to compare, its same as ktm duke 250/390. why the sales not that good. ( plus expensive price tag)

but for those true rider, they know each bike design differently and hv diff purpose.
bajaj built dominar using ktm 390 as base is due to cheap RnR.  they are not those big brand that have more money to built from scratch. they hv built the engine before, so why not use it and tune to their bike characteristic.
indian is not rich country and hv bad road ( cant do top speed as always compare here in malaysia). why need to built another KTM duke in crowded market, why not built bike that their people always do, commuting/touring with cheap price, using parts that already in market.
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To be fair, I don't mind the brand. No issues with Modenas. Modenas has so far provided decent stuff to Malaysians. Also, the quality of the Dominar is decent. Not fantastic but certainly not as bad as some China sourced bikes and it is totally acceptable. But I am wondering why it was not partially re-engineered for the market here. Yes it may have added to the cost but they could have done it slightly better rather than just taking something that was clearly developed for another market in mind. But yes, I also understand that the low cc bike market here is very price sensitive so, yeah, I know about that point as well.

By the way, I don't mind the brand. That is why I went for it instead of the Y15 kapchai. Don't get me wrong. I am all for the underdog. But I always that hope the underdogs can always punch above their weight.


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post Sep 8 2021, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Sep 8 2021, 07:09 PM)
Well the light trail is green.

Maybe a kawasaki bike in kambing?
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Makes sense if we associate the colour with the brand. But the Dominar is also sold as a Kawasaki in the Philippines biggrin.gif Who knows, they might actually stun everybody and launch the ZX25R...ok ok, I know April Fool's day is over...

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