Previous thread exploded over 2500 post. Let us start with version 2 here.

Link to previous thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/343920


Currently available Geforce 8-series DX10 card in the market nowadays:-

8500GT 256MB DDR2 @ 128bit
8500GT 256MB DDR3 @ 128bit
8600GT 256MB DDR3 @ 128bit
8600GTS 256MB DDR3 @ 128bit
8600GTS 256MB/512MB DDR3 @ 256bit - to be confirmed
8800GTS 320MB DDR3 @ 320bit
8800GTS 640MB DDR3 @ 320bit
8800GTX 768MB DDR3 @ 384bit
8800 Ultra 768MB DDR3 @ 384bit

Drivers that aspect ratio scaling can work using WS LCD with 8X00 series GPU.

Windows XP - Forceware 96.89 - Download Link

Windows Vista - Forceware 101.41 - Download Link

Latest Forceware Drivers

Windows XP -ForceWare 168.18 WHQL 32bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07

Windows Vista - Forceware 163.11 WHQL 32bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
Windows Vista - Forceware 163.11 WHQL 64bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07

Utilities

RivaTuner v2.02 - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
ATi Tool 0.27 b2 - Download Link
nTune 5.05.47.00 - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
Coolbits 2.0 - Download Link

Benchmarks

Call of Juarez DirectX 10 - Download Link
NVIDIA Demo: Human Head - Download Link
Lost Planet - DirectX 10 Game Demo - Download Link
Futuremark 3DMark/PCMark Download Page - Download Link
Real-Time High Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting - Download Link Added on 3/8/07 [Thanks to aidlover & mADmAN]

Patches

Vista Compatibility & Reliability Patch 32bit - Download Link Added on 3/8/07
Vista Compatibility & Reliability Patch 64 bit - Download Link Added on 3/8/07

Others

Microsoft DirectX 9 & 10 August 2007 - Download Link Added on 3/8/07 [Some new games would need this installed]
NVIDIA overscan compensation Fix - Download Link Added on 3/8/07
8800 Fan Speed guide - Webpage Link Added on 3/8/07 [Thanks toa aidlover& mADmAN]

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Added on May 13, 2007, 2:46 pmTry setting the AA option in Control Panel to Application Control.

This post has been edited by Hyde`fK: Aug 20 2007, 02:38 PM

first post!! has anyone tried out the 8800 ultra yet? heard that it cost like 3000+..in bulk section only 2499..?

This post has been edited by CKC_1: May 13 2007, 03:26 PM

dmn awesome the price... exceed my budget for C2D + 8800GTS (still pending though... )


Anyway... what is the equivalent card of 8800GTS from ATi??

just wait ATI R600 launched and see the results

5th post! Still hoping to see benchies of the 8500GT DDR3

yes... this 14 march rite? but i can see HD X2900xt in C-zone & pczone today pricelist, but no price, need to ask

This post has been edited by syazone: May 13 2007, 04:27 PM

14 March... tomorrow???!!!!

Wow... perhaps I can expect some price wars and maybe even the cutting of price tags for 8800GTS??

Though that is still dependent on the performance of X2900XT...

8500GT @gDDR3? IMO, it should kick 7600GT or at least 7800GT

i think, selling 8600GTS now is a good idea

geee bro i ended up getting the asus 8800 ultra..

btw czone did a benchies on hd2900xt

e6320 @ 3.2
HDx2900xt crossfired..

3dmark06 = around the 14200..

hmm where is floppy when i need him... cause that guy got 8800gts 320mb slied.

will post pic of asus 8800 ultra later..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11170143

X6800 2.93 stock with 8800gts 320mb slied...
12672... geeee

my guess.. round one to x2900xt...

This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 13 2007, 05:25 PM

hell yeah, you should post that monster

should be 14 MAY... sorry sorry

looking for 8800 Ultra SLI benchmark also..

8600GTS 256MB DDR3 @ 256bit - to be confirmed
if official nivida manufacture release 8600gts 256bit interface ! i thinks a lot of ppl will get it .. include me

dude the 8800 ultra slied benchmark i can only do like end of the month
main rig with ianho

need the power of OP1000.

all i can do now is post pics of the card if u guys want but i think theres quite no of pics on the net already

ok hmm trying to find floppy benchies last time with 8800gts 320mb slied.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11170143

X6800 2.93 stock with 8800gts 320mb slied...
12672... geeee

my guess.. round one to x2900xt...

This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 13 2007, 05:27 PM

what do you mean floppy benchies?

yeah if they reli do release it i'm gonna get this over the x1950pro, but still nid to look at the price-performance ratio lah..

member named floppy
i gave the link above for this post with 320mb slied...
also the dude is a admin for vrzone forum

own this one - 8500GT 256MB DDR2 @ 128bit
Asus GF8500GT, core over clock 9MHz (459Mhz, 400MHz DDR2)

Well, not the best for gaming, but the best mid-range GF8 for HD content and the new DirectX 10 features.

What's yours?

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Added on May 13, 2007, 6:28 pmon sale already dude..
just wondering

a lot of ppl said oh i wait for this and that and will get it..
next story most probably be wait till the price drop to be competitive...

so wonderin how come nobody benching this card after all the hoo haa about getting this card.

second. the price is reasonable for the current performance offered by 8800gts 640.
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This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 13 2007, 07:22 PM

The last time I heard about 8800 Ultra, it will be very expensive (of course), and it should be very rare and limited. I guess its not that rare after all. Most of board partners have their version of 8800 ultra and some of them come with different flavors.

its is limited
as far as i know leadtek taiwan dont have anymore..kekeke
xfx retailers are limiting one car per customer
so is evga and bfg.

erk... floppy is a guy ...

er... 8800GTX and 8800 Ultra, the differences? core/shader clock? memory clock, it is same core right, for all i know, it's like 8600GT and 8600GTS, same class, tweaked a bit...

shader clock is the big difference
u cant achieve that shader clock with core clocks of a gtx
second 0.8ns GDDr3 vs 1.1ns GDDr3.
third the GPu itself.. its technically not the same as its a different revision since nvidia claimed that a more enchance manufactoring process of some silicon thingy they can achieve better clocks... which is very true
612 core clock of ultra gives u 1500 shader
626 core clock of gtx gives u 1450 shader
the gap widens
650 core clock of gtx gives u 1500 shader
648 core clock of ultra gives u 1600 shader.
675 core clock of ultra gives u 1678 shader
700 core clock of ultra gives u 1728 shader
so u can forget the gtx ever reaching this without some serious water cooling...which u might as well buy a ultra..kekeke
i dont consider the mem bandwidth as performance difference so just ignore that.
so far ppl have been comparing a OCed gtx to a 8800 ultra..

nobody going to complain with the xfx 8800 ultra xxx edition..kekek
to give u an example of shader clocks ure going to need 700 core to even come close to it..

i am just hoping to run mine at 648 to get 1600 shader clock..20percent gain about comparad to 8800gtx.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 13 2007, 07:17 PM

hey.. i'm planning to buy a 8600GT.. theres few brands i found that are up to my budget..

MSI 8600GT
GIGABYTE 8600GT
COLORFUL 8600GT
LEADTEK WINFAST 8600GT
PALIT/XPERT V 8600GT

this 5 cards.. are about 450-rm 550..which card is better among these brands?? or is there any better cards that fit my budget??

i will choose MSI 8600GT.....

cstkl1, have you found a way to check the shader clock?

Read that it increases with core clock speed.. Any way to verify it and calculate how much exactly it increases?

yes sniper posted it
two ways so far
one is using riva tuner
second on my vista run the everest sidebar gadget...

my 8800gts now running at 575/1700 ... shader at 1350...kekek compared to stock at 1200... around 5-10 percent boost.

ok, i use RivaTuner Final Release 2.01 (downloadable at Guru3D.Com), here's a little test i ran to find about the shader clock vs core clock thing, everytime i increase the core clock, the shader will increase too by 3%~5%, here's the simple way

stock clock 702MHz on GPU, 1458MHz on Shader
735MHz @ 1512MHz
770MHz @ 1620MHz
800MHz @ 1674MHz



- copy/paste from previous thread

dude just try it
run riva tuner
load the statistics window
then overclock ure core
and see how much it increase.

i cant vouch for all 8800gts to be the same.

storm88 selling his new colorful 8600gts at RM680. try get it..

okie, running my 8800gts stable at 675mhz core and 1050mhz memory. Riva tuner monitor shows an increase from 1200mhz shader to 1400mhz.

can't do bench now cos using crappy proc.

Btw, what i mean by stable is no warning sound from atitool "scan for artifact".

wander if those Ultra A03 core ever make it into mainstream GTS and GTX ..... if it does it good news for a lot of ppl........

new colorful 8600GTS now selling at rm699 if not mistaken.. it from PC Zone.

duh, it's just RM19... besides, it's considered new, even me myself will let go at close to new price

http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/05/3dmark06-...-vs-2900xt.html

oced x2900xt beat 8800ultra stocked

hehe...for real?
....unknown VGA....


Chow.

My 8800 GTS 320MB SLI
3dMark06 - 13325

Intel C2D E6420 @ 3.12GHz

always wonder which fella in malaysia will do this.. pump it higher bro.

but actually in real world performance the the difference is not too much the xt vs gts

wow... you guys really crazy arr... OC up up until like that... scary larr for me who never dare oc my PC...


Maybe I'll try some oc when my new rig finish.. hopefully it won't blow away on the first try

hey... 8500GT 512 mb or 8600GT 256 mb is more better??

ofcoz the 8600GT

if you are not a serious gamer, or you don't have a big size monitor, 8600gt is very enuff for your gaming..I am using a 8600gt now, although I am going to change to a 2900 soon but I stilll like 8600gt..it can just simply hit 10k with this 8600gt card after oced.. it's cheap for this card but it can play most of the game in high setting...I am using a 22" LCD running very smooth on oblivion, stalker, aoe3, c&c3 and dark mersiah.

get an OCed 8600gt such as galaxy premium or palit sonic version
I prefer palit one, coz its the only one that comes out with 2 slot cooling, first in world for a budget card like this

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=1
oh gtx oh gtx ure the best and xt sux
oh ultra oh ultra ure the best and gtx sux...

LOL.. you're making me drooling over the XT lorr... hopefully the price is cheap. I still not clear on the price...


For now my choice for my new rig is still 8800GTS.. but who knows... if XT is that good... I might change though... if the price is cheap that is..

well the question is HEAT baby HEAT..
even if the xt is slightly better than the gts...

HEAT... and PSU...
... so geeee...
and take note on this.
2d/3d clocks are fine and dandy with ure running xp.
vista is 3d clock all the way baby.. so burn baby burn.!!!

Judging from Shamino's review, X2900XT doesn't seems that great for the price to be paid. And somehow ATI's IQ lose this time. But my my, 1Ghz core and 1Ghz memory for 16K 3DMark06.

dont write it off bro

did u see the overclock on stock.. thats beats a gtx already...here is the proof.. of my very own before..kekek but take note the lastest driver gives about 500 points or more than this...



the question is just HEAT HEAT HEAT...

i suspect because x2900 doesnt work like the g80's work with the shader clock and core clock.. so u every mhz u overclock teh x2900xt.. gives u a performance gain..

again.. either i buy them to test it .. or somebody has to. the question is
so far " Doom " sold his 8800gts to get this,
how many ppl who said wait and see and etc etc will get the card..
or are they going to say in august and hence forth.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=207714
x6800@3.317 , 473*7
EVGA 680 mobo,
2x1gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer - 950mhz CL4 - 2.2v
8800gtx 575/1350/900 (Stock)
3dmark06 = 11086.

Shamino Vrzone
x6800@3.3 ,366*9
ASUS P5K Deluxe (Intel P35 Chipset)
2 x 1GB GSkill CL5DDR2 915MHz, 5:4 Divider
HD2900xt 880/1030 (742/828 - Stock)
3dmark06 = 11896!!!...

This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 14 2007, 03:28 AM

about the palit sonic version.. is saw thundermatch's pricelist.. and saw the palit 8600GT at 480.. is that the sonic version??

dunno laa guys, from my point of view, the gts is already enough for your everday gaming use.... by looking at all the reviews, i say that insane power requirements, extreme heat. and ridiculous mod is not (for this 2900xt) is not worth my money... just my 2 cents.

The 3DMark06 is good, but gaming performance not quite impressive from Sham's review. Could be driver issue, waiting for better driver release and see what X2900XT can do.

yeah bro..
well for me i need performance with good cooling
ati doesnt deliver for me.

anyways the card performance is pretty good.. so geee gpu price wars..( reminds me of the clone wars..kekek)

bro take note of ure PSU.

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Added on May 14, 2007, 2:08 pmhttp://www.ocworkbench.com/2007/asus/EAH2900XT/b8.htm

take note... kekek they are using the older driver 97.something
heck didnt they know the new drivers like 158 so on gives like 10 percent boost on most the games i play?? ... kekek some even close to 20 percent more..kekeke..



whats their ambient temp 10C??if according to what shamino review
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1100/10
this review terbalik.. haiyo y cant they use the latest driver for xt.
and errr the card only overclocked can beat the gtx
so.. y dont they compare with the gts..
funny larr this two reviews...
like two dumb asses..

oh yeah u can see the difference in the 158 driver from looking at both reviews and also see the difference with the 8.37 drivers.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 14 2007, 02:22 PM

my galaxy 8800gts 320mb OC edition (550/900) can only do near 8000 mark in 3dmark06... hmmm, how can i push it slightly better??? my previous 7950gx did 8300+ w/o oc o... but 3dmark05 it beats my 7950gx2 a bit... i'm using winXP btw... (e6600 oc to 3.33ghz)

8800 ultra??? wah u really really rich o...

cstkl, r u gong to water cool it???

the whole LYP dont have the 8600 sonic
only thunder match got, but only the normal version

having no other choice, I bought galaxy 8600gt OC with CM fan, although the price is same as 7900gs, but for the sake of dx10 and lesser power requirements, I chose 8600gt, hopefully that would be a good choice.

MSI OCed ver would be just nice in 8600gt range...

but i'm using asus 8600gt... due to the 3year's warrenty thingy...

MSI OC'ed one costs rm30 more than a galaxy one... their core is 580mhz, 20mhz less than the galaxy card.

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 14 2007, 03:21 PM

ITW

before this what card are you using?
I am using a 6800GS 256MB ram. I just wonder if i change to 86GT whether got significant change or not.... if you have benchies for 3dMark 03,05,06 can share with here? thanks

by the way i am on AMDX2 4600 on HT RAM

can i use NiBiTor to change the default setting for Min Cycle Fan Speed??? default is 60%... i wanna change it to 70%... coz if i set it to fixed speed of 100% using RivaTuner, it causes some noise... i never use NiBiTor b4 too... so ig got tips of how to utilise it is greatly welcome too... if cannot discuss here, then pls pm me if dun mind... tq...

Whow... can't wait anymore... after seeing the 2900XT review and charts from 3dguru... I think I'll stick with 8800GTS... cheaper.. and most important.. not Watt hunger My Enermax is only 485Watt lorr....

Anyway... quite confuse on which brand of 8800GTS to take.. so many la available... from MSI, BFG, Asus, XFX to Colourful, Galaxy and eVGA.

Can recommend me some arr???

320 or 640 version?

maybe u can try those OC version from different brand (assumed u want 320MB).

MSI OC
BFG OC2
XFX XXX
eVGA Superclock or KO ACSł

are recommanded.

Yup... 320MB onli...

Thanks for the suggestion... will look out for those brands and see which one is better for value and performance.

how much is the galaxy 8600GT??

hello..

currently eying on ASUS GEFORCE 8800GTS 320MB DDR3 320BIT DIRECT X 10..... now I heard it's RM999 (my main objective is to play MS FSX )

Are you serious RM999?? That is much more cheaper than standard edition in bulk sales...

r u serious..? which shop dude..? think wanna sli

really...? i havent confirm my own core speed and other setting yet... why my nvidia control don show...?
juz downloaded NiBiTor 3.4a will check later go home...

before this i was using 6600gt 128mb galaxy zalman... already not functioning...
ok i did some benchies for 05, everything in default mode...



mayb is my old athlon64 1.8Ghz lowered the performance...
i think need some1 with am2x2 series or core2 to run 3dMark again...

Argh the fan on my 8800GTS not running smoothly. It seems that sometimes it vibrates and causes grinding sound. The thing is cooling performance is excellent idling at 50 degree. So is it worth it for me to sound for it to get checked/rma which would take sometime?

rm530@cycom
rm580@pc zone
rm490@bulk sales

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=pr...30&cat2_no=136#
8600gt MSI
MSI have dual link and more acc., which galaxy dont have.

after browsing through a few 8800Ultra from MSI and palit and galaxy, whoa they all look the same one except the sticker label on top of the fan, wonder are them using the same PCB and components?

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 14 2007, 06:57 PM

Can I know what is the differences between OC-ed VGA and non-OC-ED VGA? Besides its clock speed and core are faster, anythings else? We can also do this through non-OC-ED 1 right?
And also, if i have an OC-ED VGA can i still OC it?
for an example i have a EVGA e-GeForce 8800GTX 768MB Superclocked, can I still overclock it by using water cooling to cool it?

Hope you all get what i meant...

If i got wrong statements on those OC-ed thingy please correct me..

This post has been edited by raymond8341: May 14 2007, 07:24 PM

hmm.. with palit 8600GT sonic no where to be found.. and with minimal budget.. only this three cards is in my budget range..

Colorful
Palit( non sonic)
Winfast

i'm in desperate need of a graphic card now..playing tiberium wars with super low settings on my onboard 6100

I have done the benchmark on 3dmark06, it is not showing the score on the window, possibly due to vista compatibility issue.

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultan...D=0&UID=9253366
galaxy 8600gt OC'ed edition
scored 4898
core : 675 mem: 900mhz

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 14 2007, 08:14 PM

not bad my friend... your bench result looks ok... I think if i get a 8600GT, the score will reach somewhere around 9 to 10k...
so tempted.... what brand u are using? factory oc or stock speed like the reference?

next year project..kekeke..
the danger dan hst are not cheap bro.

but next year going to run a swiftech pump on it and see what happens..
hopefully by then they will come out with t tec wc kit for the 8800.

cstkl

hehehe, if u plan to change ur gc again n selling this off, which i guess only in few months time, PM ME...! last time i missed out ur gtx... u sold it only few days earlier than i got my paycheque... hehehe... bravo for u... u really damn gila in all these gc thingy... hahaha... pls post more pics n review of ur process... v really will appreciate it...


:thumb:

no dude the ultra stays.
any improvement on that rig would be watercooling it.

will consider the xt after i see what after market cooling can achieve or hows the performance in water..... ps.. dont discount a certain ianho.. kekeke..

but heheh the ultra stays.. cause its the best the 90nm G80 can offer.

anything after this is either 80nm or less.. so dont really care until gaming performance sux.
the gtx was fine and all but just thought get the best G80 that i can get.
the xfx edition i didnt want it as its at ridiculous price which might just be numbed if u put a watercooling hsf on it... maybe no more headroom on that. so opted for the asus since i wanted stalker ori game and so did my bro.. long story

hi guys, im not sure if this is the right thread, and atm im at work so cant search through the hardware forum if its posted or not...

but i have an issue with my 8800 GTX here, it just keeps on crashing when im playing World of warcraft. and i can confirm that its the gfx card because the graphic suddenly went off but my sound and everything else still working fine, can even continue talking on ventrilo too (voice comm program) until a while later on then fully crash.

almost guranteed to happen everyday but very random.

i downloaded ntune and checked the temperature and its a whooping 80-90c idle avg 85 c... wtf? or its normal? im running windows vista ultimate btw... and cstkl1 also mentioned that vista being permanent running on 3d clock... could it be the cause? please help...

also theres the evga step up program, not sure if im available for it but im asking the person that i bought the bulk from (bata), hopefully i am so i can just change the gtx to the ultra and hopefully have this prob fix... (could be card defects, or prolly driver or just bad heat dissipation/airflow... also getting a strong intake fan btw)

may i ask what is the oc setting u guys use for 8800gts 320mb??? currently the 1 i bought is running at 550/900, factory oced... but it seems like almost at its limit with 900mhz at rams... what the rams speed u guys do usually??? it's running with stock cooler btw... anyidea, if any1 selling fans that can replace the existing crappy fan of the stock cooler??? like those use in artic cooling silencer...

asus oni rm540 leh... with dual link also, 2nd slot hsf solution...


Asus 8600gt 256mb 1.4ns ddr3...
core = 540Mhz, memory = 1400Mhz (700) stock setting...
image from asus website...

This post has been edited by ltw82: Jun 6 2007, 11:21 AM

has anyone able to OC their 8600GT to 8600GTS sucessfully? how is the 3dmark score compare to 8600GTS stock ? near or no difference?

still can't use AA in CS:Source. Tried setting it manually in nVidia CP, also in CS:Source video options... but no luck.

8600gt
forceware 158.22
winxp sp2

any comments?

that is too hot.. by at least 10 C. my GTX idles at 71-75......... and at about 60 on load. so u must have a ventilation problem in your casing. your crashing problem sound like an overheating gc. just a hunch...... how about opening the side panel and see of the temp goes down. if not maybe ur fan is not working properly. did u set the fan speed to manual? maybe the gc fan was accidently set to slow RPM

just my 2 cents..

btw



new test using futuremark 2006......... 9067. i think the proc and ram is holding me down

new test.. weird really. last 2 weeks i ran the same test using the same driver only got 8064...................how suddenly rise by 1K.. bizarre

and another thing.when i OC this card the score is always lower than stock. what could be the problem?

This post has been edited by obefiend: May 15 2007, 10:49 PM

yo guys, im staying far from lyp, thus i can't make a decent survey on the gfx

i would like to get my hands on the 8800gts 320mb, but im not sure which brand is the best, and the lyp price for it.

If anyone can help me, i will be much appreciated.

Apart from stock 8800gts, i also would like to know about the OC version as well as the price for it too.

Thanks in advance..

go here
http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceguide/
to check latest prices in LYP stores

nah
game at higher reso.
forget ure proc.

i open my side panel and the temp stays the same. theres no fan control afaik to speed the fan up, and the fan is definitely working. (well its spinning) any other ideas?

i already posted in other thread what u need to do to fix ure problem with vista.

aye probably best to keep it all in the other thread. thanks for the help by the way ^^

[quote=cstkl1,May 16 2007, 01:11 AM]
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nah
game at higher reso.
forget ure proc.

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huh? high res games? i think 1680x1050 is gud enuff for me since the native res for my monitor is that. i was just trying to get some juice out of ths card. dont really see any difference post OC-ing.

as the question goes

how come the 3dmark goes down after OC... should it go up.. ram up the core to 700.........thats a good 100+ mhz faster than stock..