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wkc5657
post Apr 21 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 20 2018, 01:51 PM)

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Looks like your promotion of hankook v12 is affecting the tyre supply lar....

Southern side ask few shop, they say no stock liao tongue.gif
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post Apr 22 2018, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 22 2018, 12:14 AM)
Whahaha really?? Maybe I should inform Hankook of my bank account number eh!
Well hopefully the new Falken FK510 will arrive in the future then I can start to recommend something else.  laugh.gif
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Yalor...they should get in contact with you rolleyes.gif

Not sure about the FK510 availability, browse through the official, no such product available. But strangely, a recent campaign listed FK510 in their poster :
http://www.stamfordtyres.com.my/campaign.asp

Anyway, i just dropped an email to them to check whether the availability is real or not.
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 23 2018, 10:35 PM)
Ic, we'll just have to wait and see then. Hopefully not too long anymore since this tire was already out for the last 1-2 year already. If this thing comes along and the price is similar to the V12E2 or the previous FK453 then that should make the market very interesting as there'll be more choices for those who want top performance tires at economical prices. I still have another 2+ years to go before I need to change mine so for me I still got time. smile.gif Otherwise I'll just settle back to the V12E2 or maybe by then already got V12E3?  biggrin.gif
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I too am eagerly awaiting for the FK510, but seems like time is not on my side since i'm in need to change before mid year.

Seeing how FK453 was priced, i realise it is slightly more expensive than v12evo2. So likely that FK510 will be priced at a slight premium (optimistic) to FK453, or will be really close to what PS4 is selling now. It will be at least another year for the supply to stabalise and the price to moderate, so FK510 won't be the econo-performance choice i guess...v12evo2 will still reign in this space.

The only saving grace for the FK510 would probably be fuel economy and refinement. From my findings from a US site when randomly browsing (too bad lost the link), the FK510 is a touch lighter. And from the EU labelling, depending on size, generally most of FK510 has 1dB advantage against v12e2. Another things is that the FK510 has additional rim protection on all sizes, not sure about the v12evo2 on this though. (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Falken-AZENIS-FK510-Press-Release.htm)

I guess it would be a good alternative to ps4 for those who just don't want to be associated with brand snobbery or wanting to be a little different than the normal choice for performance. Hope the FK510 can be priced right, anything less than 10% lesser compared to ps4 will relegate it to a really niche choice to those that are falken brand loyalist or those that prefer the tread pattern of FK510 (like me).
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post Apr 24 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 23 2018, 11:42 PM)
Hmm back then when I was still looking for my 17' size 225/50/17, the FK453 was way much cheaper than PS3. The FK453 at that time I can get for only around rm350 while PS3 was at least rm525, so I doubt that the FK510 price will be close to PS4. Falken should realize that it's not yet in the same first class brand as Michelin/Pirelli/Goodyear/Continental/Bridgestone. A bit higher pricing than V12E2 is fine since it's made in Japan as long as not overpriced like Toyo T1S or Yokohama Advan Sport. In the UK video that I posted, the FK510 was priced at only around 60% of PS4S or 80% of F1A3, so the pricing trend should be similar here or even better.

Ah yes, for rim protection the V12E2 is practically almost none, at least for size 225/45/17 that I use now! My CSC5, F1D5, F1A2, PS3 all have much thicker rim protection.
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If really it is around 80% of F1A3, then the pricing should be quite close to the MC6, not bad actually. Meaning the pricing should be similar to FK453, also indirectly means that FK510 will officially replace FK453 in our market. But by seeing the campaign poster, both are listed alongside, which begs to question what is the standing of FK510 for falken malaysia....
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post Apr 24 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 24 2018, 02:23 PM)
Anyway just ask Falken again when the time comes for you to change, who knows maybe by then it's available already, then you can buy and provide us your feedback.
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It could likely be available by that time, but being new intro into the market and supply not stabalised, the pricing could be a put off. Even with really popular michelin, when the ps4 was launched, the pricing was 20-30% higher compared to now.

So i'm likely to veer my choice to the v12evo2 as i just found a tire shop that sells at reasonable price. Unless, of course falken malaysia choose to launch it at a reasonable price from the very beginning.

On a side note, stay tuned for possible hankook new releases. Hankook will be participating in The Tire Cologne, an international trade fair on tyres and they seem a little secretive, just promising there will be product "world premiere"; hopefully the evo3 series laugh.gif

https://www.tyrepress.com/2018/04/hankook-b...e-tire-cologne/
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post Apr 25 2018, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 24 2018, 09:02 PM)
Well depends, sometimes new releases might give lower price to introduce new product and gain market too. Then once demand picks up, they'd gradually increase it. This was the case with PS3 and RE003 if not mistaken. With PS4 probably different case coz already very well proven predecessor so they were confident with their pricing, also maybe initial product was still made in Europe then subsequently can get cheaper due to made in Thailand.

Hmm they only indicate about all season successor to the Kinergy and they also only will bring their Audi show car using the S1E2 so maybe not yet Evo3 series or else they'd have that same car shod with the newest UHP Evo3 series.
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If it is as you mentioned, then there's some hope for my wait smile.gif

I still think hankook may introduce evo3 series, as mentioned in the article, they "promises other world premieres" after mentioning the new all weather tyres. Fingers crossed icon_rolleyes.gif

*Till this day, falken malaysia has not replied my email regarding the availability of FK510. Why the heck then publish the email address when no one is attending to it??!!
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post Apr 25 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 25 2018, 11:58 AM)
Yup, if still not yet available then at least can still get the V12E2, or try find S1E2. Or maybe you want to be a guinea pig to test the MC6? laugh.gif Btw what is your current tires now? Cannot really recall if you have mentioned before...

Maybe Falken staff here also still no idea yet so delaying to give responses, that's usual.
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I'm using 215/45/18, but since this is odd size, i'm looking at 225/45/18.

On my area, the best i get for v12evo2 was RM400 (all in), s1evo2 seems like no one knows other than for SUV size (like for the new VW Tiguan).

I last checked for my size FK453 is around RM450, so i presume FK510 will be around RM510 (my unscientific pricing estimate, just follow the series number laugh.gif )

Recent good news is, i just got a reply from falken malaysia rclxm9.gif :
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From his reply, indirectly maybe does seemed like certain sizes already available in the market if know where to look for it. That means good news for good performance tyre seekers, looking for something other than ps4/mc6 smile.gif

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post Jun 19 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Jun 19 2018, 01:07 PM)
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Go check it out Falken FK510 is available at Ban Hooi Klang, just got reply from falken malaysia.
Time to change my old V12Evo2 to Falken FK510 hhehehe.
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Don't hold your hopes high for the time being and hold on to your guns. If you can wait, you wait. I checked from another shop, it is currently more expensive than ps4 when i checked last week.

Official launch at august, so current supply quite limited and marketing of fk510 is unofficial. Better wait until at least launching to see whether got any good deals. Or else, wait till next year when supply is more consistent and the price stabalises.
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post Jun 20 2018, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Jun 20 2018, 07:03 PM)
you sure boh... i just check 225/40/18 @ rm405 woh. If ps4 for this size ady rm800++.
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wa....kind of unbelievable.....but if it is that good of a price, i'll get it at a heart beat.

i asked for 225/45/18, got quote for 735.
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post Jun 20 2018, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Jun 20 2018, 08:53 PM)
Wahhh so much different ah. which shop you ask? Let me help you ask for your size see what my friend quote me haha.
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M One Tyre JB

Here down south, a lot of tyre shops quite against falken tyres. Even i asked the largest falken dealer in JB, so kanasai way of replying me, the way the person talk to me makes me want to give him a middle finger. M One is the more understanding one that is willing to go the extra mile to help me get the quote i require (albeit very high)

Yes, please help me ask. I'm curious to know, and thank you in advance smile.gif
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post Jun 21 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 20 2018, 10:24 PM)
If rm735, might as well just get PS4 or Continental Extreme Contact Sport, only around rm600/pc, some in Klang Valley can even offer below 600 for PS4 in that size.
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I sometimes envy you fellors in the selangor area, earn more than us down south, but things cheaper or at least similar price range bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

Shit that "singapore premium" attitude by the business people ranting.gif Salary and rental lower than, then how can your operating costs be more than those in KL/Selangor??!! Please also don't say logistic costs, because there are 2 damn large international ports in Johor state and some more just a bridge away to one of the world's busiest port country!! vmad.gif

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post Jun 21 2018, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Jun 21 2018, 04:32 PM)
bro your 225/45/18 is rm405.
mine 225/40/18 he gave me wrong price should be rm415 different rm10 buck haha
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oh wow....same price as the v12evo2 over here. I do really like the price, i would really want it, but i'm down south....

Who can help me bring it down south? cry.gif cry.gif
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post Jun 22 2018, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ Jun 21 2018, 10:40 PM)
aiyoh see one day you got come to klang valley makan angin then bring back one set loh.
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Very hardly go that area, last time went around there was more than 5 years ago.

Who did you contact for the price? Maybe i try asking whether they have some form of outstation delivery support.

On the other hand, anyone coming down south, i offer tambang RM100 to transport black donut biggrin.gif

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 22 2018, 09:03 AM)
Other things aside from car stuff also more expensive there? Maybe essential things like food and housing are cheaper there, no?
Excellent! That is only like 70-100rm more expensive than V12E2 so just about right price range.

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Housing, depends on location, but despite the glut, the prices aren't coming down. 70% of properties sold there are above 500k. Normal hawker here start asking price average RM6 per meal without drinks; supermarket food court close to RM10. I don't know about those in your area, but i guess won't be that much more.

Computer/IT/electrical stuffs, your area definitely cheaper; sometimes singapore cheaper even after considering the transport hassle. Car service price, similar price level and sometimes a little bit more expensive as the consumables are more expensive to procure. Clothing/apparels, pricing a little subjective and not so direct, but from what some of the ladies saying, the trend in the south is slower. Water cost, hands down Johor win, the most expensive in Malaysia (but not a bad idea to discourage wasting).

But salary wise, Selangor area about 20% more on average vmad.gif The only thing those in the south can be grateful is the traffic jam not as insane, but we do experience a fare share of it on trip to and fro singapore.

My pricing estimate was kind of there and some more same price as v12evo2 here, but FK510 not available here cry.gif

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post Jun 22 2018, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 22 2018, 10:08 AM)
Then I suppose your best bet for now is still the V12E2, or you just wait a few more months and check again if the FK510 already available there and with more normal price range.
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No choice lar.....can't really wait. The factory tyres left about 10% thread left and some are already at the thread life markings. Further, the front outer sides are chipping/flaking off badly because the thread fully ran down.

 

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