Wish I could buy more BRakyat shares, but they are all fully subscribed.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bank...nd-payment-2017
Bank Rakyat Dividend 16%
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Mar 28 2018, 11:18 PM, updated 6y ago
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Great dividend for 2017 from BRakyat! 16%!
Wish I could buy more BRakyat shares, but they are all fully subscribed. http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bank...nd-payment-2017 |
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Mar 28 2018, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 28 2018, 11:18 PM) Great dividend for 2017 from BRakyat! 16%! Bank Rakyat is known to pay very generous dividend to its member. For the past 10 years, Bank Rakyat is always paying a minimum of 15% dividend per year. Unfortunately, the membership is closed.Wish I could buy more BRakyat shares, but they are all fully subscribed. http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bank...nd-payment-2017 https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/dividends/bank-rakyat/ |
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Mar 29 2018, 01:17 PM
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macam mana beli ini?
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Mar 29 2018, 01:33 PM
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Mar 29 2018, 01:35 PM
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wondering if ASNB FP funds invested in it?
take 15% gives 7%.......everyone happy liao... |
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Mar 30 2018, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:31 PM) Well its just the name only.. If Bumi and Non Bumi deposit money. Will the rate be different? By right Non Bumi they should give higher rates.And u know what.. If u take loans from them.. Bumi & non bumi rate is different... How I know? Because I went there with bumi friend... So don't accused me of spreading fake news 😊 |
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Mar 30 2018, 03:26 PM
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15% CAGR in 5 years = roughly 100% return. Didn't know we got such a good investment corporation that can consistently gave that kind of return. Highly doubt them
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Mar 30 2018, 03:26 PM) 15% CAGR in 5 years = roughly 100% return. Didn't know we got such a good investment corporation that can consistently gave that kind of return. Highly doubt them were you thinking that brakyat's involved in ponzi scheme? during the late 90's asian financial crisis, brakyat did not give out any dividends for a few years. This post has been edited by Stamp: Apr 2 2018, 10:15 AM |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:31 PM) Well its just the name only.. I checked with one branch manager and he said there's no such thing as different loan rates for bumi and non-bumi.And u know what.. If u take loans from them.. Bumi & non bumi rate is different... How I know? Because I went there with bumi friend... So don't accused me of spreading fake news 😊 Becareful on your posting to avoid spreading "FAKE NEWS". |
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My dad non bumi has bank rakyat shares leh.
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I do not see why they need to limit the investment to certain group of people if they really can perform as what they claim or expect from them. Same for ASN.
Other legit investment such as BRK didn't limit anyone fr investing with them, yet their return is roughly 15% CAGR |
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I do not see why they need to limit the investment to certain group of people if they really can perform as what they claim or expect from them. Same for ASB.
Other legit investment such as BRK didn't limit anyone fr investing with them, yet their return is roughly 15% CAGR |
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 2 2018, 03:01 PM) I do not see why they need to limit the investment to certain group of people if they really can perform as what they claim or expect from them. Same for ASB. What is BRK?Other legit investment such as BRK didn't limit anyone fr investing with them, yet their return is roughly 15% CAGR |
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BRK = Berkshire Hathaway
Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment. I assume Bank Rakyat already stop accepting new investment since 10y ago and its NAV remain the same. Bank Rakyat net return is actually worst than most other bank above. The published yield of 16% is very misleading. If MAYBANK were to introduce a similar scheme, it can easily achieve 25-30% yield. This post has been edited by Singh_Kalan: Apr 7 2018, 12:44 PM |
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 7 2018, 12:30 PM) BRK = Berkshire Hathaway Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years. I assume Bank Rakyat already stop accepting new investment since 10y ago and its NAV remain the same. Bank Rakyat net return is actually worst than most other bank above. The published yield of 16% is very misleading. If PBBANK were to introduce a similar scheme, it can easily achieve 25-30% yield. |
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 7 2018, 12:30 PM) BRK = Berkshire Hathaway Bank Rakyat is a cooperative bank. Unlike Maybank.Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment. I assume Bank Rakyat already stop accepting new investment since 10y ago and its NAV remain the same. Bank Rakyat net return is actually worst than most other bank above. The published yield of 16% is very misleading. If MAYBANK were to introduce a similar scheme, it can easily achieve 25-30% yield. But if Maybank could produce better yield than BRakyat with similar scheme, why wouldn’t the bank do that? |
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Apr 8 2018, 06:44 PM) Bank Rakyat is a cooperative bank. Unlike Maybank. maybe because they does not want to limit new investment?But if Maybank could produce better yield than BRakyat with similar scheme, why wouldn’t the bank do that? as per earlier post..... "Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment." |
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Based on the article,
1. Bank Rakyat is not listed 2. There is no market price for its share 3. Hence the par value (usually RM1) is used as the base to calculate the dividend rate 4. Applies to all sdn bhd companies when they declare dividend Eg. When RM0.20 is declared as dividend, the dividend rate is 0.20 / 1.00 = 20% of par value 5. As compared to listed banks, when dividend is declared, investors use market price as the base to calculate dividend yield. Eg. Maybank declare RM0.50 dividend, the dividend yield is 0.50 / 10.00 (market price) = 5% of market price (ie dividend yield) 6. Should Maybank is not a listed company, then the dividend rate would be 52% (2016 total dividend / par value RM1) So, the 16% is actually meaningless if you are not the shareholder. Because it is based on par value, which the intrinsic share price would have been much higher. To the original shareholders who actually paid only RM1.00 to buy its share, then yes, their return is 16% To see whether Bank Rakyat is a better money making machine than other banks, you should compare using Profitability Ratios. Like ROA, net interest margin, loan-to-asset ratio. IMO, the “16% dividend” looks juicy, but you have to dig deeper and compare against other banks using common ratios to know whether BR is generating profit above or below industry standard |
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Well said. The published 16% dividend is quite meaningless. I guess they r trying to mislead the public to invest in their UT products. Shame on u bank rakyat !!!
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 9 2018, 04:19 PM) Well said. The published 16% dividend is quite meaningless. I guess they r trying to mislead the public to invest in their UT products. Shame on u bank rakyat !!! the 16% dividend is meaningless? why, the shareholders did no get the benefits out of it?Bank rakyat got their own UTs products? they have their own entities to manage UTs? or they are just a reseller/agent to UTs products that are managed by other fund houses? This post has been edited by MUM: Apr 9 2018, 09:29 PM |
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 9 2018, 04:19 PM) Well said. The published 16% dividend is quite meaningless. I guess they r trying to mislead the public to invest in their UT products. Shame on u bank rakyat !!! its 15% dividend for 2017.i dont understand why it is meaningless. for RM100k share, one gets RM15k dividen. |
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how do they give out so much in dividend??
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Bank rakyat is dumb. last time they open to buy their share. All 4 members of my family went to buy and they only approve 500 bucks. We wanted to max out, 100k or 200 k can't remember. They didn't approve that amount. Only Rm 500. So every year 80 bucks only. Need to take out the dividend also. otherwise they say it's unclaimed dividend.
They will approve high amount only if you got connection inside. otherwise it's RM 500 only. |
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QUOTE(salikinmafia2 @ Jan 2 2019, 11:32 PM) Bank rakyat is dumb. last time they open to buy their share. All 4 members of my family went to buy and they only approve 500 bucks. We wanted to max out, 100k or 200 k can't remember. They didn't approve that amount. Only Rm 500. So every year 80 bucks only. Need to take out the dividend also. otherwise they say it's unclaimed dividend. Yes, a multi-billion company with hundred of millions of asset is dumb as compared to rando on the internet.They will approve high amount only if you got connection inside. otherwise it's RM 500 only. |
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NO news yet on the dividen for 2018.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 8 2018, 08:43 PM) maybe because they does not want to limit new investment? how much did pbbank pay out for dividend in the last few years?as per earlier post..... "Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment." |
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 28 2019, 09:06 AM) QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 2 2019, 12:56 AM) What I'm sure....Its won't be like ASB 2 rate announced recently.. Yes. I know its not apple to apple comparison.. But many always does that.. And the pool of investors / holders also have some similarities 😊 if u know what I mean... |
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tick tock tick tock...another TH kind of surprise? LOL
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 2 2019, 01:07 AM) download klse screener app. all is there. QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 2 2019, 01:28 AM) other than dividend,...how much has the price of the stock appreciated plus the right issues it offered over the last few years too? similar to the response above. klse screener app. all your answers there. |
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Apr 12 2019, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(salikinmafia2 @ Jan 2 2019, 11:32 PM) Bank rakyat is dumb. last time they open to buy their share. All 4 members of my family went to buy and they only approve 500 bucks. We wanted to max out, 100k or 200 k can't remember. They didn't approve that amount. Only Rm 500. So every year 80 bucks only. Need to take out the dividend also. otherwise they say it's unclaimed dividend. I believe the dividend is now automatically deposited into your Bank Raykat savings account?They will approve high amount only if you got connection inside. otherwise it's RM 500 only. On the side note, just sell your shares to me. |
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so long waiting list for Bank Rakyat shares.. many seems "begging for it..
even just 500, many who currently hold won't sell it out just like that... |
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wah Bank Rakyat Dividend also dropped.. but not as bad like TH
13% consider OKAY |
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lucky not much songlap like TH
16% to 13% consider minimal drop. next must see LTAT dividends... |
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you know something seems not right when this institution beat the S&P return year after year, but who cares
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Even if bumi-only, is this still available for new investment?
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13% not bad.
But there are no more unit. So hard to buy this |
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Is it still closed?
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Is it still closed??
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I wish the shares are open to everyone to buy. I want those shares too if the dividend is so high
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if those that think that this 16% is damn good thus really
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by the way,
Any government servant get bank rakyat personal loan? Its only 2.38% Is it compound interest or simple interest? |
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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 11 2020, 05:26 PM) by the way, I think similar to HP financing.Any government servant get bank rakyat personal loan? Its only 2.38% Is it compound interest or simple interest? sl3ge liked this post
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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 11 2020, 05:26 PM) by the way, Simple interest. The principal x interest % pa x period.Any government servant get bank rakyat personal loan? Its only 2.38% Is it compound interest or simple interest? Compound interest is similar to penalty interest or overdue instalment interest. sl3ge liked this post
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 11 2020, 06:29 PM) Simple interest. The principal x interest % pa x period. It is like car loan?Compound interest is similar to penalty interest or overdue instalment interest. https://www.comparehero.my/personal-loan/ar...-than-you-think So the Effective Interest Rate of the bank rakyat loan is around 4.5% my understanding correct? This post has been edited by sl3ge: Oct 11 2020, 06:40 PM |
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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 11 2020, 06:38 PM) It is like car loan? Yes. Effective interest is higher.https://www.comparehero.my/personal-loan/ar...-than-you-think So the Effective Interest Rate of the bank rakyat loan is around 4.5% my understanding correct? Simple interest as its term ... simple calculation. Effective ... formula based. sl3ge liked this post
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