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post Mar 28 2018, 11:18 PM, updated 6y ago

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Great dividend for 2017 from BRakyat! 16%!

Wish I could buy more BRakyat shares, but they are all fully subscribed. biggrin.gif

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bank...nd-payment-2017
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 28 2018, 11:18 PM)
Great dividend for 2017 from BRakyat! 16%!

Wish I could buy more BRakyat shares, but they are all fully subscribed.  biggrin.gif

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bank...nd-payment-2017
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Bank Rakyat is known to pay very generous dividend to its member. For the past 10 years, Bank Rakyat is always paying a minimum of 15% dividend per year. Unfortunately, the membership is closed.
https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/dividends/bank-rakyat/

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post Mar 29 2018, 01:17 PM

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macam mana beli ini?
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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:17 PM)
macam mana beli ini?
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Bumi only 😑

Anyhow closed already...
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:25 PM)
Bumi only 😑

Anyhow closed already...
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bank RAKYAT but bumi only, lel
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 29 2018, 01:28 PM)
bank RAKYAT but bumi only, lel
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Well its just the name only..

And u know what..

If u take loans from them.. Bumi & non bumi rate is different...

How I know? Because I went there with bumi friend...

So don't accused me of spreading fake news 😊
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:31 PM)
Well its just the name only..

And u know what..

If u take loans from them.. Bumi & non bumi rate is different...

How I know? Because I went there with bumi friend...

So don't accused me of spreading fake news 😊
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post Mar 29 2018, 01:35 PM

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wondering if ASNB FP funds invested in it?
take 15% gives 7%.......everyone happy liao...

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:31 PM)
Well its just the name only..

And u know what..

If u take loans from them.. Bumi & non bumi rate is different...

How I know? Because I went there with bumi friend...

So don't accused me of spreading fake news 😊
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If Bumi and Non Bumi deposit money. Will the rate be different? By right Non Bumi they should give higher rates.
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post Mar 30 2018, 03:26 PM

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15% CAGR in 5 years = roughly 100% return. Didn't know we got such a good investment corporation that can consistently gave that kind of return. Highly doubt them
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QUOTE(wu ming @ Mar 30 2018, 03:21 PM)
If Bumi and Non Bumi deposit money. Will the rate be different? By right Non Bumi they should give higher rates.
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Ahh that I'm not sure..
Because I don't deposits them 😑


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post Apr 2 2018, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Mar 30 2018, 03:26 PM)
15% CAGR in 5 years = roughly 100% return.  Didn't know we got such a good investment corporation that can consistently gave that kind of return.  Highly doubt them
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were you thinking that brakyat's involved in ponzi scheme? whistling.gif

during the late 90's asian financial crisis, brakyat did not give out any dividends for a few years.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:31 PM)
Well its just the name only..

And u know what..

If u take loans from them.. Bumi & non bumi rate is different...


How I know? Because I went there with bumi friend...

So don't accused me of spreading fake news 😊
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I checked with one branch manager and he said there's no such thing as different loan rates for bumi and non-bumi.

Becareful on your posting to avoid spreading "FAKE NEWS".
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QUOTE(wu ming @ Mar 30 2018, 03:21 PM)
If Bumi and Non Bumi deposit money. Will the rate be different? By right Non Bumi they should give higher rates.
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No such thing.
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post Apr 2 2018, 12:35 PM

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My dad non bumi has bank rakyat shares leh.
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post Apr 2 2018, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Apr 2 2018, 12:35 PM)
My dad non bumi has bank rakyat shares leh.
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Eh how come...
I ask for it, like 10y ago.. The staff said for bumi only...
That's why my friend bumi have,but I don't cry.gif

The staff "cheat" me mad.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 2 2018, 01:09 PM)
Eh how come...
I ask for it, like 10y ago.. The staff said for bumi only...
That's why my friend bumi have,but I don't cry.gif

The staff "cheat" me mad.gif
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My dad subscribed the shares back in 1990s. Maybe after that no more for non bumis
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Apr 2 2018, 01:14 PM)
My dad subscribed the shares back in 1990s. Maybe after that no more for non bumis
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Ooh no wonder leh...
That time still very new.. BR needed the $$$

Now don't talk lor.. Even bumi cannot buy.. Its closed...

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post Apr 2 2018, 03:01 PM

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I do not see why they need to limit the investment to certain group of people if they really can perform as what they claim or expect from them. Same for ASN.

Other legit investment such as BRK didn't limit anyone fr investing with them, yet their return is roughly 15% CAGR
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I do not see why they need to limit the investment to certain group of people if they really can perform as what they claim or expect from them. Same for ASB.

Other legit investment such as BRK didn't limit anyone fr investing with them, yet their return is roughly 15% CAGR
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 2 2018, 03:01 PM)
I do not see why they need to limit the investment to certain group of people if they really can perform as what they claim or expect from them. Same for ASB.

Other legit investment such as BRK didn't limit anyone fr investing with them, yet their return is roughly 15% CAGR
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What is BRK?
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post Apr 7 2018, 12:30 PM

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BRK = Berkshire Hathaway

Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment.

I assume Bank Rakyat already stop accepting new investment since 10y ago and its NAV remain the same.
Bank Rakyat net return is actually worst than most other bank above. The published yield of 16% is very misleading. If MAYBANK were to introduce a similar scheme, it can easily achieve 25-30% yield.

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 7 2018, 12:30 PM)
BRK = Berkshire Hathaway

Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years.

I assume Bank Rakyat already stop accepting new investment since 10y ago and its NAV remain the same.
Bank Rakyat net return is actually worst than most other bank above.  The published yield of 16% is very misleading.  If PBBANK were to introduce a similar scheme, it can easily achieve 25-30% yield.
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 7 2018, 12:30 PM)
BRK = Berkshire Hathaway

Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment.

I assume Bank Rakyat already stop accepting new investment since 10y ago and its NAV remain the same.
Bank Rakyat net return is actually worst than most other bank above.  The published yield of 16% is very misleading.  If MAYBANK were to introduce a similar scheme, it can easily achieve 25-30% yield.
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Bank Rakyat is a cooperative bank. Unlike Maybank.

But if Maybank could produce better yield than BRakyat with similar scheme, why wouldn’t the bank do that?
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Apr 8 2018, 06:44 PM)
Bank Rakyat is a cooperative bank. Unlike Maybank.

But if Maybank could produce better yield than BRakyat with similar scheme, why wouldn’t the bank do that?
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maybe because they does not want to limit new investment?

as per earlier post.....

"Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment."
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Based on the article,

1. Bank Rakyat is not listed
2. There is no market price for its share
3. Hence the par value (usually RM1) is used as the base to calculate the dividend rate
4. Applies to all sdn bhd companies when they declare dividend
Eg. When RM0.20 is declared as dividend, the dividend rate is 0.20 / 1.00 = 20% of par value

5. As compared to listed banks, when dividend is declared, investors use market price as the base to calculate dividend yield. Eg. Maybank declare RM0.50 dividend, the dividend yield is 0.50 / 10.00 (market price) = 5% of market price (ie dividend yield)
6. Should Maybank is not a listed company, then the dividend rate would be 52% (2016 total dividend / par value RM1)

So, the 16% is actually meaningless if you are not the shareholder. Because it is based on par value, which the intrinsic share price would have been much higher. To the original shareholders who actually paid only RM1.00 to buy its share, then yes, their return is 16%

To see whether Bank Rakyat is a better money making machine than other banks, you should compare using Profitability Ratios. Like ROA, net interest margin, loan-to-asset ratio.

IMO, the “16% dividend” looks juicy, but you have to dig deeper and compare against other banks using common ratios to know whether BR is generating profit above or below industry standard


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Well said. The published 16% dividend is quite meaningless. I guess they r trying to mislead the public to invest in their UT products. Shame on u bank rakyat !!! bruce.gif

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 9 2018, 04:19 PM)
Well said.  The published 16% dividend is quite meaningless.  I guess they r trying to mislead the public to invest in their UT products. Shame on u bank rakyat !!!  bruce.gif
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the 16% dividend is meaningless? why, the shareholders did no get the benefits out of it?
Bank rakyat got their own UTs products? they have their own entities to manage UTs?
or they are just a reseller/agent to UTs products that are managed by other fund houses?

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 9 2018, 04:19 PM)
Well said.  The published 16% dividend is quite meaningless.  I guess they r trying to mislead the public to invest in their UT products.  Shame on u bank rakyat !!!  bruce.gif
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its 15% dividend for 2017.

i dont understand why it is meaningless. for RM100k share, one gets RM15k dividen.
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how do they give out so much in dividend?? rclxub.gif
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Bank rakyat is dumb. last time they open to buy their share. All 4 members of my family went to buy and they only approve 500 bucks. We wanted to max out, 100k or 200 k can't remember. They didn't approve that amount. Only Rm 500. So every year 80 bucks only. Need to take out the dividend also. otherwise they say it's unclaimed dividend.

They will approve high amount only if you got connection inside. otherwise it's RM 500 only.
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QUOTE(salikinmafia2 @ Jan 2 2019, 11:32 PM)
Bank rakyat is dumb. last time they open to buy their share. All 4 members of my family went to buy and they only approve 500 bucks. We wanted to max out, 100k or 200 k can't remember. They didn't approve that amount. Only Rm 500. So every year 80 bucks only. Need to take out the dividend also. otherwise they say it's unclaimed dividend.

They will approve high amount only if you got connection inside. otherwise it's RM 500 only.
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Yes, a multi-billion company with hundred of millions of asset is dumb as compared to rando on the internet.
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NO news yet on the dividen for 2018.
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 28 2019, 09:06 AM)
NO news yet on the dividen for 2018.
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Yes, very keen to know the dpu for 2018 too,....
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 8 2018, 08:43 PM)
maybe because they does not want to limit new investment?

as per earlier post.....

"Actually most bank (MAYBANK, PBBANK, HLBANK, CIMB) can achieve a net return (equity gain + dividend) of more than 16% CAGR over the past 10years without need to limit new investment."
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how much did pbbank pay out for dividend in the last few years?
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 2 2019, 01:07 AM)
how much did pbbank pay out for dividend in the last few years?
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other than dividend,...how much has the price of the stock appreciated plus the right issues it offered over the last few years too?

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 28 2019, 09:06 AM)
NO news yet on the dividen for 2018.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 2 2019, 12:56 AM)
Yes, very keen to know the dpu for 2018 too,....
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What I'm sure....
Its won't be like ASB 2 rate announced recently..

Yes. I know its not apple to apple comparison.. But many always does that.. And the pool of investors / holders also have some similarities 😊 if u know what I mean...
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tick tock tick tock...another TH kind of surprise? LOL
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Apr 2 2019, 01:07 AM)
how much did pbbank pay out for dividend in the last few years?
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download klse screener app. all is there.

QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 2 2019, 01:28 AM)
other than dividend,...how much has the price of the stock appreciated plus the right issues it offered over the last few years too?
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similar to the response above. klse screener app. all your answers there.


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QUOTE(salikinmafia2 @ Jan 2 2019, 11:32 PM)
Bank rakyat is dumb. last time they open to buy their share. All 4 members of my family went to buy and they only approve 500 bucks. We wanted to max out, 100k or 200 k can't remember. They didn't approve that amount. Only Rm 500. So every year 80 bucks only. Need to take out the dividend also. otherwise they say it's unclaimed dividend.

They will approve high amount only if you got connection inside. otherwise it's RM 500 only.
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I believe the dividend is now automatically deposited into your Bank Raykat savings account?

On the side note, just sell your shares to me. tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:24 PM

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so long waiting list for Bank Rakyat shares.. many seems "begging for it..
even just 500, many who currently hold won't sell it out just like that...
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wah Bank Rakyat Dividend also dropped.. but not as bad like TH biggrin.gif

13% consider OKAY rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Apr 12 2019, 04:44 PM)
Untung la
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lucky not much songlap like TH devil.gif
16% to 13% consider minimal drop.

next must see LTAT dividends...
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you know something seems not right when this institution beat the S&P return year after year, but who cares
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 12 2019, 03:24 PM)
so long waiting list for Bank Rakyat shares.. many seems "begging for it..
even just 500, many who currently hold won't sell it out just like that...
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bumi only isnt it
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bumi only isnt it
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from what I know is Bumi only.. when I ask them..
but from what I get feedback in lowyat forum.. seems few chinese also managed to get BR shares... old timers..
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Even if bumi-only, is this still available for new investment?
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QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Apr 13 2019, 09:39 AM)
Even if bumi-only, is this still available for new investment?
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No. No more new shares offered to the public.
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13% not bad.
But there are no more unit. So hard to buy this
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Is it still closed?
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post Sep 20 2020, 05:56 PM

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Is it still closed??
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I wish the shares are open to everyone to buy. I want those shares too if the dividend is so high
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post Sep 20 2020, 07:01 PM

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if those that think that this 16% is damn good thus really ranting.gif bangwall.gif if they did not have it , then try read post 26 of page 2....

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by the way,
Any government servant get bank rakyat personal loan? Its only 2.38%
Is it compound interest or simple interest?
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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 11 2020, 05:26 PM)
by the way,
Any government servant get bank rakyat personal loan? Its only 2.38%
Is it compound interest or simple interest?
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I think similar to HP financing.
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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 11 2020, 05:26 PM)
by the way,
Any government servant get bank rakyat personal loan? Its only 2.38%
Is it compound interest or simple interest?
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Simple interest. The principal x interest % pa x period.

Compound interest is similar to penalty interest or overdue instalment interest.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 11 2020, 06:29 PM)
Simple interest. The principal x interest % pa x period.

Compound interest is similar to penalty interest or overdue instalment interest.
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It is like car loan?
https://www.comparehero.my/personal-loan/ar...-than-you-think

So the Effective Interest Rate of the bank rakyat loan is around 4.5%
my understanding correct?

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QUOTE(sl3ge @ Oct 11 2020, 06:38 PM)
It is like car loan?
https://www.comparehero.my/personal-loan/ar...-than-you-think

So the Effective Interest Rate of the bank rakyat loan is around 4.5%
my understanding correct?
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Yes. Effective interest is higher.

Simple interest as its term ... simple calculation.

Effective ... formula based.

 

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