My P20 has gotten tiny scratches on the plastic strip surrounding the screen. Sigh.. this has been covered in case since Day 1! the cheap glossy plastic strip can be easily scratched with friction. This is so annoying!!

Why did they have to put a glossy plastic strip instead of a matte one (as in the iPhone X). It's there for a reason but please use something that isn't scratch-prone!!

What is clear is that the P20P's 40MP Camera doesn't deliver quite well as people might think it should be. Almost all reviewers highlighted the purple fringing issue on the P20P 40MP.
It's the first time Huawei released a 40MP camera so it is expected to have flaws.

I bought the P20 not because I don't like the P20P camera quality but because it's more compact.

Anyway, nobody here discusses the front camera of the P20/P20P.
The 24MP f/2.0 front camera is AWFUL. As in awfully worse than my old P10.. It's like a budget smartphone camera. Images are overexposed, muted colors and very soft.

On my P10, the 8mp f/1.9 camera is EXCELLENT. I like the feature where it widens the field of view when it detects more than 1 person. This is a step down from the great P10 front camera.
I think Huawei decided to put 24MP for the sake of the megapixel count to compete with other China OEMs.

Seriously, no reviewers have mentioned the bad front camera because they are too afraid to expose this flaw. It is known for a fact that Huawei sponsor the flight and hotel of tech reviewers on their annual Barcelona event.

Haha true. A flagship device deserves flagship hardware and they literally skimped on this one.
I just realized the front camera isn't "Leica branded" anymore unlike the P10.
It only bothers me because this is a pathetic and dumb decision from Huawei.

Dude, it IS meant to be used in 40mp. Huawei just know that the 40MP quality is really bad that is why the default setting is 10MP (to utilize the 2.0 µm sensor).
Huawei thought they can get away with their gimmick unnoticed.

Errr.. it uses 4 pixels to combine into one and will equate to 2.0 µm sensor size which I was referring to on my previous post.
It's actually not that clever. Asus does this on their zenfone for lowlight (8MP that will be reduced to 2MP resolution).
Moto X4 also does this on their front camera (16MP front that will be reduced to 4MP to combine 4 pixels)


As for the HTC One, the 4MP ultrapixel has an actual 2.0 µm sensor and doesn't need to combine smaller pixels.

See, it's not actually new or innovative.
I have no complaints with the 10MP of P20 Pro (mine is the regular P20) but the 40MP is more of a marketing gimmick to persuade customers into buying Huawei.

I think you don't get my point here.
Ironic how you pointed out the "specs and numbers" game where it was Huawei who is taunting the 40MP in the first place

What I think is they are not as innocent as some people think they are. Huawei knows the limitation of the sensor but an average consumer doesn't. What I and the other guys here have explained are NOT common knowledge. See, someone even pointed out I may not be familiar on lumia and THAT is exactly my point here.

Huawei is using the numbers game to entice buyers. Yes, we know it's not always the megapixel count but does an average consumer knows that?

Anyway, to be fair, the 10 MP of P20 Pro and 12 MP of the P20 are right on top with the other top dogs. We can defend Huawei but sometimes criticisms are needed for them to stay humble.

Uhm.. did I say the 10MP image is bad? Pls stop being a fandroid. Don't be like iSheeps that just blindly follow a brand. If something is wrong, criticize. If something is right then give compliment.

I'm a proud owner of P20 and this isn't my first Huawei. Where everyone else is busy using a Samsung toy, I was there using my Ascend P6.

Don't just blindly follow. You SHOULD demand the best since you shell out your hard earned money to buy an expensive device.

Huawei's post processing is known to oversharpen and crush the details of images regardless of lighting conditions.
You will notice the overly sharp and contrast-y look which they are known for since the P10.
This is to hide the noise but will make the image darker.

I know it's not on the level as the Pixel 2 XL or HTC U11 but still a good performer overall.

Have you noticed scratches on the plastic strip surrounding the screen (sandwiched between the glass and aluminium).

Mine have small scratches even with soft silicone case. The material is too fragile. I wish Huawei used matte plastic instead of the glossy one.

+1
The best screen protector is the stock one. Huawei did a good job sourcing the best plastic screen protector for this phone. The texture is like a cross between a normal plastic screen protector and clearcoat (mobile outfitters) protector.

Because P20 isn't a Snapdragon processor. The fast charge technology on Huawei Kirin phones are NOT in the processor but on the charger itself.
Unlike your Mi A1 or any midrange or highend Snapdragon which uses the CPU to trigger fast charging.

Huawei is known to sponsor airfare and accommodation with their annual P-series event (starting from P10 and now P20). Obviously, these tech reviewers also need to earn so they give good reviews. So there..

Here's one good review future P20/P20 Pro owners should take note of
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/huawei/1406...the-camera-hype

Yes. Everyone knows Google Pixel 2 has the best image quality in all lighting conditions. Nobody can argue that. For me, the only useful AI camera detection is for portraits. The rest makes the image quality worse.

Notice that the tree lights aren't sharp and how blurry the picture is.
So much noise reduction going on in this pic.

Correct. The P20 processing needs some tweaking. Hopefully will be fixed with the next update. I can't wait!

You know how funny some people defend this bad picture when in fact the other picture taken by the P20 is good.
Telling everyone to ignore comments and don't argue. That's how blind followers act.

We are here to discuss P20 and P20, good or bad. We should share sentiments, not blocking criticisms.

1. -- I can confirm this on the first day I bought the P20. I had a group selfie with my colleagues and suddenly it hanged. I was embarrassed for a minute but I just told them I accidentally pressed the home button. LOL
2. -- Hmmm so far I don't have any issue with GPS. Not sure what specific issue they encounter.
3. -- EMUI 8.1 is a BUGGY software. Only previous P10 owners would know. The P10 EMUI version (forgot which version) is polished and an almost perfect phone.
This new EMUI has a lot of bugs (go to XDA if you want to know more).
4. -- Since Huawei is now popular, it is normal to find fault from millions of users. I don't think there is a smear campaign. It's the other way around. Huawei is quite dirty with their strategy. Remember the Best Buy brouhaha? Huawei solicited 100+ fake Mate 10 Pro reviews on Best Buy to entice ‘beta testers’. Not good.

This post has been edited by ijuanp03: May 17 2018, 09:48 AM

I haven't tried doing group selfie again with a bunch of people so I can't confirm now.
The phone has already been updated twice (latest was yesterday) but the latest one didn't mention about camera bug fixes (only adding the April security patch and Amazon app).

@Icehart
Ok my bad as well. I just feel the need to be honest with my P20 feedback. We'll never know when some Huawei rep have stumbled upon this forum.
At least they hear our grievances and help resolve these issues.

HTC went down the drain because they hardly listen to criticisms. Only now that they realize how important it is after losing a lot of money.
We don't want that to happen to Huawei.

This post has been edited by ijuanp03: May 22 2018, 10:33 AM

Prior the P20, I own the S8.

1. Battery life - S8 s*cks. P20 is just FINE. Not the best battery (I still think my previous P10 has a better battery and my Moto X4 is killing it.)

2. Camera - both S8 and P20 have very good image qualities BUT, when you install GCam in the S8, damn..Google is really really good in image processing.
Both S8 and P20 have unrealistic skin tones which ASIANS love a lot.
As for lowlight, both are capable. It's a draw for me.

3. Performance - S8 in Nougat is quite laggy but all this changed when it received Oreo update. All the lags are almost completely gone.
P20 is smooth but EMUI 8.1 has some bugs not related to performance but more on aesthetics (Font size, etc..)

The font size issue is related to EMUI 8.0.
These are aesthetic bugs and should be addressed as it affect the overall look of the UI.

Note that my view mode is Small and text size is Large.


Take for example Spotify app
Look what it does to the notification/banner.
The texts of the playlist name "Best 2018..." is almost sticking to the song name.
The navigation (rewind/pause/fast forward) is already sticking to the album icon.

This is NOT an issue on the P10 (as already tried with the same view mode and text size) and also not the case with other Android OEMs.
For P10 and other OEMs, they will not change the font size and there is no layout distortion.

The font size itself is too big and this is also the case with notifications on other apps (not just Spotify).
EMUI 8.1 is quite disruptive and may have overlooked this aesthetic issue.