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post Mar 30 2018, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(joey2000 @ Mar 28 2018, 04:06 AM)
Why Sabah Sarawak keep supporting BN even though they are not getting a lot of development.?

How many parliament seats in total for Sabah and Sarawak ?
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Turning the table around. What have Sarawak/Sabah to gain from voting Pakatan compared to BN?


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post Apr 3 2018, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(joey2000 @ Mar 28 2018, 04:06 AM)
Why Sabah Sarawak keep supporting BN even though they are not getting a lot of development.?

How many parliament seats in total for Sabah and Sarawak ?
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Simple. Despite PM for 22 years, Mahathir have given them little.

Najib in 9 years have given them more than what Mahathir given them in 22 years.


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post Apr 3 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(superbike @ Apr 1 2018, 02:51 PM)
Sarawak hold the most parliament seats as of last election. Btw, Johor is another bn stronghold. Sarawak do have "lots" of development as of now, but only in 3 major cities. Kuching, Miri and Bintulu is growing quite fast now, but the transportations, road facilities and all the rural areas is very much meh, still undeveloped.
ive heard some of the ibans and chinese still eat cats and dogs in rural areas.
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Have you heard of the massive Pan Borneo Highway? Construction is ongoing. And all those new bridges.......


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post Apr 3 2018, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Apr 3 2018, 08:25 AM)
I am a Sarawakian, grew up in Sarawak. Studied in Selangor for the past 5 years, now have been working for the past year here in KD.

So here is my view on things from keeping tabs on my home and the peninsular.
For starters, compared to the BN here in peninsular, the BN in Sarawak actually employ competent people. Yes, undertable money is passed around but this is the norm for both the Gov and the Opposition. The people aren't too bothered by this, so long as progress can be made, which has considerably in the last couple of years when Adenan took office.

Tell me, as a native whose livelihood use to depend on the land now given work in the government sector, and whose children are being given the opportunity to undertake tertiary education, who should they feel grateful for? the opposition? Yes, they did contribute somewhat but much of it is still attributed to BN.
Secondly, to the people the party of BN or Opposition means zero. They vote for the people who runs the office. BN had Adenan, who did the opposition have? I can't for the life of me name a person worthy enough to head the state within the ranks of the opposition. None of them had vision, unlike Adenan's whose speech moved many including the chinese. The BN of Sarawak and the BN of peninsular are not the same party, working under the shadow of a master does not imply loyalty.

The people wants what is best for Sarawak. Will voting for the opposition bring Sarawak prosperity or are we swapping a leash for another, a benevolent master for an incompetent one?

The people from the west can cry all they want about how BN is corrupted and Sarawakians & Sabahans are stupid for voting BN still, but the simple truth is unlike the opposition in West Malaysia, the opposition in the East is no alternative to the current party. It is simply a kitten compared to its sibling of a lion in the West, while the BN in Sarawak is a recent slave granted some form of freedom by a leader whose life was cut short. 
Finally my last point, you want to know why Sarawakians are so irked by West Malaysians and their opinions so much to the point where opposition can't even make inroads? For so long people have been voting a particular party only to realize that party has been involved in a scandal, the only alternative to that party, instead of trying to provide leadership or guidance has only shown East Malaysia scorn after losing, only showing an intent to win power in the next election without any sort of planning or vision for the people. The opposition in the West has made it clear, they are no friends or allies of the East, the natives can smell it from across the sea.

As much as I despise Mahathir, his words hold true, better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

The smart ones know they can't win by going head to head with BN, the opposition in the West is no help, the opposition in the East has no balls, the people's hearts has already been won, no point fighting for a war already lost, only way now is to change the government in the East from within or to work together with it.

Outside change can only start with some humility in hand, with vision and time, so far I haven't seen that from the opposition or its supporters while staying here in Selangor, so there is no hope for them winning over S&S in GE14, BN will continue to enjoy the support of the Natives.
P.S A small reminder to West Malaysians, Sarawak and Sabah may be part of Malaysia, but to say we share the same culture is as much of a lie as saying Malaysia is corruption free. Want to make inroads within the East? Start by learning our 2 state's culture and its people while we learn yours, expecting us to understand your culture and telling us off as if we are idiots for not knowing is not a good way to start.
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haha. Recently Mahathier went to Sarawak and said Sarawak only have 16 Points request during the formation of Malaysia. I don't know why he deducted off the other 2 request. But I doubt many West Malaysian know what I am talking about
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 3 2018, 01:08 PM)
What u talking??
Chinese already wake up since 2008
Its the Malays needed to wake up....
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And when they woke up, they found........Mahathir leading them again. rclxub.gif





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post Apr 15 2018, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(joey2000 @ Mar 28 2018, 04:06 AM)
Why Sabah Sarawak keep supporting BN even though they are not getting a lot of development.?

How many parliament seats in total for Sabah and Sarawak ?
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It's basically najib of BN vs mahathir of Pakatan.

Care to list down what can Sarawak get from Najib and what can they get from Mahathir? From what I read, Najib in his 9 years have given far more than what Mahathir gave in his 22 years, multiple times more. Even in Pakatan form, haven't heard of much promise from Mahathir so far




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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 15 2018, 08:59 AM)
Well from what I see..
Main reason why Bijan "so generous" towards S&S because they the one save Bijan ass last GE.. Without them, u think Bijan can become PM again....

There's reason why those states is called "fixed deposit" with PBB is the main supporters...

While  during the Old horse Tun M time... Don't needed S&S also can win GE... Support from WM is good enough...

So basically.. Its all about Bijan political survival.. Nothing else... If Bijan gets all the support from WM like previously.. It goes back the old days.. S&S forgotten as usual... Simple logic 😊
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Now getting more, is that good or bad for Sarawak?


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post Apr 16 2018, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 15 2018, 11:22 AM)
getting more? meaning more projects?

well u see who getting the most benefits.. who the main contractors / players  sweat.gif
linked to who  whistling.gif
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Are you saying the people who get to use the roads and bridges doesn't benefit from all these projects?



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post Jun 9 2018, 01:39 PM

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The title should now be, why should Sarawak support PH?

Under Najib, he did not complain when Sarawak said they will have full control of Sarawak's oil.

Under PH, they sue Sarawak for saying they have full control of Sarawak's oil.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 9 2018, 08:42 AM)
Come June 12 BN in Sarawak will be history.

Sabah and Sarawak's support for BN was due to UMNO/BN was in the federal government, not because jibby is more handsome.
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With PH in Federal and since Federal suing Sarawak over Sarawak's oil, they have no reason to support PH.

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post Jun 11 2018, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 10 2018, 12:57 PM)
They may not join PH immediately but they will likely quit BN. 

But further down, they will either become irrelevant due to losing state election,  or they will join PH. Just make sure you are still around to witness it and don't stop using this nick.
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If so many people join PH, then who are there to be the opposition? Isn't that back to Square One?
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post Jun 11 2018, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 11 2018, 03:08 AM)
As it is now, UMNO is still the party which won the biggest number of seats. And it's very unlikely that will be a big exodus of UMNO people to PH because the process requires them to be independent first before they can be considered to join. So, unlikely there will become too small until the next election.

Secondly PH is made of up multiple parties, so it has it's own built-in mechanism for cross checking and balancing. Only respective parties need to make sure there  is no single party which dominates.
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For years the people were promised PR works on consensus My foot. Kajang Move shows there is no such thing as consensus. Same with dealing with PAS.


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post Jun 11 2018, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 11 2018, 11:09 AM)
Kajang Move was a subject matter within the PKR. Why would consensus (across parties) matter ?
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Selangor state government formed with only PKR members?

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 12 2018, 12:26 AM)
How is firing of a menteri besar equal to firing of a state government ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajang_Move

The move is said be initiated by Rafizi Ramli and triggered by Khalid Ibrahim himself did a few major things not aware or not approved by the PKR leaders.

In the second phase of development Khalid Ibrahim did sacked many members of state excos includings those from DAP but that's just his desperate attempt to stay in power.
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Simple. PR have from Day 1 say they work via consensus. So why is there no more need for consensus?

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 23 2018, 01:51 AM)
You know what is the context of consensus here ?

Here it means consensus to the acceptance of the candidate. Other parties can't interfere with your selection or rejection of a candidate.

In other words, when a candidate is fielded, better make sure other parties have no objection.

But other parties have no say in your choice candidate. That's your own party business.

Such a simple rule also cannot understand ?
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Consensus means everybody agree


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Now that the PH Federal government through Petronas suing Sarawak to maintain control of Sarawak's oil, there is even now less reason for Sarawakian to vote for PH.



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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 24 2018, 10:32 AM)
Another of your crap theory. If PH is such a dirty word for the Sarawakians, why would the bunch of politicians in the local government decided to quit BN and declared to be PH friendly ? The GPS is digging its own graveyard ?

Or GPS is just sailing along where the wind blows ?
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Federal have never sue Sarawak before over control of oil. So why now? For want of nothing to do?

And why is Sarawak, both Sarawak government and Sarawak PKR, fighting Petronas over this?

Petronas goes to court over Sarawak’s O&G authority claim
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/petr...authority-claim
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 24 2018, 01:56 PM)
You made too many assumptions.

Since when the federal government sued Sarawak ?

Seems you have great difficulty with the lines and boundaries of various entities.

That explains why you also have so much confusion with Kajang move issue.
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Petronas only take orders from the Prime Minister. They can't do things without PM's approval. Didn't you know that's how Petronas works? Go get an education and stop acting so ignorant.

Or you didn't know Personas taking Sarawak government to court and for what issue? Then you better go read the news and get updated.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 25 2018, 02:31 AM)
Confused as ever? Federal is suing Sarawak over control of oil? Haha.... joke of the day. Thanx for uplifting my mood on a blue Monday.

Read more before you spew some more crap misinformation.
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Typical ignorant.

Sarawak say Petronas must get license to drill for oil from 1st July 2018. I mention the year just in case you don't know what year it is.

So in early June 2018, Petronas took Sarawak government to court basically saying Petronas doesn't have to get any license to drill oil in Sarawak's territory. Meaning Petronas control Sarawak's oil and not Sarawak's government. Do you know who is PM in June 2018? Again I mention the year just in case you don't know what year this is

Now go Google what I said and stop being just an ignorance person
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jul 1 2018, 07:44 PM)
Typical ignorant.

Sarawak say Petronas must get license to drill for oil from 1st July 2018. I mention the year just in case you don't know what year it is.

So in early June 2018, Petronas took Sarawak government to court basically saying Petronas doesn't have to get any license to drill oil in Sarawak's territory. Meaning Petronas control Sarawak's oil and not Sarawak's government. Do you know who is PM in June 2018? Again I mention the year just in case you don't know what year this is

Now go Google what I said and stop being just an ignorance person
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For those too clueless to Google, here a link of what I said above

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/petr...authority-claim

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